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Started by flyguy06, December 21, 2009, 11:11:30 PM

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flyguy06

I have been thinking. How many units have chain of command walls? I mean acual picutres of our senior leaders? And do you all think its something neccessary to have? Every military unit I have ever been associated with wheather it be army, air force, USMC, or Navy have chain of command walls. I think its something CAP should do. I will ask cadets who their wing commander is and they have no idea. So, if he ever came to a meeting, would they recognize him? Part of the cadet program is knowing the chain of command anyway so why not put their pictures on the wall. The National Commander, Region Commander, and Wing Commander have official photos, get the Group and Squadron Commanders to take official photos and put them on the wall.

Now the question I dont know isd how far up do we nee dto know in CAP? Do we need to go up to National Commander or do we need to go all the way up to the POTUS? (thats a lot of pictures)

Major Carrales

I've always had the sitting President, the Sec of Defense, the Sec of the Air Force and the National Commander.
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

flyguy06

Quote from: Major Carrales on December 21, 2009, 11:19:57 PM
I've always had the sitting President, the Sec of Defense, the Sec of the Air Force and the National Commander.

You skipped a lot in between there though didnt you? If you start at the POTUS you would have to go like this:

POTUS
SECDEF
SECAF
Chief of Staff AF
AETC Commander
AU Commander
CAP National Commander
Region Commander
Wing Commander
Group Commander
Squadron Cmmander

Thats 11 pictures. Ihave never sen a wall that large before

FW

^If you're going that route, you need to add the CAP-USAF/CC

I would go from SECAF to BoG Chairman to National/CC; then down as shown.  It's a more realistic chain than above.  And, yes, the CAP/CC does report to the BoG.

lordmonar

Quote from: FW on December 21, 2009, 11:31:56 PM
^If you're going that route, you need to add the CAP-USAF/CC

I would go from SECAF to BoG Chairman to National/CC; then down as shown.  It's a more realistic chain than above.  And, yes, the CAP/CC does report to the BoG.

That is the more logical Chain of Command...as CAP does not report to CAP-USAF and all the rest.
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

wuzafuzz

Quote from: flyguy06 on December 21, 2009, 11:11:30 PM
I have been thinking. How many units have chain of command walls?
Oh, to even have a wall, a roof, a door...drool. 
"You can't stop the signal, Mal."

RiverAux

CAP's only chain of command stops at the BOG and has nobody beyond that.
You might put a dotted line link between SECAF and the BOG since he appoints some of the members but he doesn't command them. 

flyguy06

I guess I am speaking mainly about cadets. CAP doesnt reprt to the CAP-USAF. They are advisors. I guess in a way the BoG is a policy maker. But I am speaking strictly  chain of command.

RiverAux

Then stop at the National Commander.

The BOG is not sort of a policy maker, they are CAP's ultimate governing body.

flyguy06


CAPC/officer125

Quote from: flyguy06 on December 21, 2009, 11:25:34 PM
Quote from: Major Carrales on December 21, 2009, 11:19:57 PM
I've always had the sitting President, the Sec of Defense, the Sec of the Air Force and the National Commander.

You skipped a lot in between there though didnt you? If you start at the POTUS you would have to go like this:

POTUS
SECDEF
SECAF
Chief of Staff AF
AETC Commander
AU Commander
CAP National Commander
Region Commander
Wing Commander
Group Commander
Squadron Cmmander

Thats 11 pictures. Ihave never sen a wall that large before

I have seen more.
At KSWG HQ we have everyone on that list minus, of course, the Group and Squadron Commanders. But then we also have more. I don't know who but we have like 14-16 pictures up.
C/LtCol Priscilla (Pat) Temaat
Eaker #2228
Earhart #14523
KS-001- KSWG HQ staff
2012 Joint Dakota Cadet Leadership Encampment Cadet Commander

flyguy06

How do you stack them up?
And where do youhave them take their pics?

Major Carrales

Honoring Officials at a CAP facility by displaying their portrait is not indicative of a chain of command, pe se.

You include the President because he is the Commander-in-Chief as well as Head of State.  Our ties to the USAF dictate that we "honor" them by placing the proper USAF Official in the chain.  The National Commander of CAP is appropriate.

The Wing and Region Commanders are also good to go on such a wall.
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

JROB

#13
When I was in JROTC I updated our Chain of Command photos regularly we had 18 photos. The way that I had them stacked  being that our office was large enough was from left to right my unit was army so for CAP I  you could use:
POTUS,SECDEF,SECUSAF,Chief of Staff, AETC Cmdr, AU Cmdr, National Cmdr, Respective region cmdr, wind cmdr, group cmdr (if you have one), and Squadron cmdr
Maj. Jason Robinson
Squadron Commander, Desoto Composite Squadron
SER-MS-096

"If you are in trouble anywhere in the world, an airplane can fly over and drop flowers, but a helicopter can land and save your life"-Igor Sikorsky

flyguy06

Quote from: JROB on December 22, 2009, 01:44:14 AM
When I was in JROTC I updated our Chain of Command photos regularly we had 18 photos. The way that I had them stacked  being that our office was large enough was from left to right my unit was army so for CAP I  you could use:
POTUS,SECDEF,SECUSAF,Chief of Staff, AETC Cmdr, AU Cmdr, National Cmdr, Respective region cmdr, wind cmdr, group cmdr (if you have one), and Squadron cmdr

TYou would need a long wall

Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: flyguy06 on December 22, 2009, 01:53:23 AM
Quote from: JROB on December 22, 2009, 01:44:14 AM
When I was in JROTC I updated our Chain of Command photos regularly we had 18 photos. The way that I had them stacked  being that our office was large enough was from left to right my unit was army so for CAP I  you could use:
POTUS,SECDEF,SECUSAF,Chief of Staff, AETC Cmdr, AU Cmdr, National Cmdr, Respective region cmdr, wind cmdr, group cmdr (if you have one), and Squadron cmdr

TYou would need a long wall

Or small pictures!

EMT-83

And I thought that I was ahead of the curve by actually having a squadron org chart posted!

JROB

We did them on 8 1/2 x 11 photo paper put in frames. We included the Senior Enlisted advisors under picture of the commander.
Maj. Jason Robinson
Squadron Commander, Desoto Composite Squadron
SER-MS-096

"If you are in trouble anywhere in the world, an airplane can fly over and drop flowers, but a helicopter can land and save your life"-Igor Sikorsky

flyguy06

Quote from: JROB on December 22, 2009, 06:46:02 AM
We did them on 8 1/2 x 11 photo paper put in frames. We included the Senior Enlisted advisors under picture of the commander.

Good idea. And do you include the cadet commander? I would say since it changes so frequently not to include he cadet commander.

Trung Si Ma

Back when we had a permanent (and exclusive) home, we had the pictures posted (CAP Side only) in 8x10 prints going from Left-to-right Squadron C/CC, Squadron CC, Wing CC, Region CC, National CC.
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