Oregon Apartment Complex Bans American Flag

Started by DBlair, October 14, 2009, 06:26:37 PM

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C/MSgt Lunsford

Quote from: KATU.COMUPDATE: The flag ban was lifted a few days after this story aired.
It says it right under the pic...
http://www.katu.com/news/local/64059697.html

Wright Brothers #13915

Spike

^ It was just updated today......says so in the story. 

I am correct in assuming it was the motorcycle guy.  He read the rental agreement, and went straight to the media, instead of going to the property management and addressing his disagreement with them first. 

Now, go fly your Venezuela flags.   

C/MSgt Lunsford

Quote from: Spike on October 14, 2009, 10:43:29 PM
^ It was just updated today......says so in the story. 

I am correct in assuming it was the motorcycle guy.  He read the rental agreement, and went straight to the media, instead of going to the property management and addressing his disagreement with them first. 

Now, go fly your Venezuela flags.
What about my USSR Flag?  ;)

Wright Brothers #13915

Airrace

What a shame, everyoye deserves the right o fly the Amercian Flag!

Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: Lunsford on October 14, 2009, 10:45:44 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 14, 2009, 10:43:29 PM
^ It was just updated today......says so in the story. 

I am correct in assuming it was the motorcycle guy.  He read the rental agreement, and went straight to the media, instead of going to the property management and addressing his disagreement with them first. 

Now, go fly your Venezuela flags.
What about my USSR Flag?  ;)


Were you actually born there? Because I'd be pissed as someone who was if

some [darn] Yankee was flying my colors after bashing them for seventy years.

:D


DG

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Quote from: cnitas on October 14, 2009, 07:03:52 PM
While I do not agree with the policy, it is an example of what makes the USA great...freedom.
 
The owner of the complex has the right to make those decisions about his property.  At the same time, the residents get to choose if they would like to live in that complex with such a silly policy.

The market will decide if this is a sustainable policy.

Wrong.

What the woman did when she discriminated against those who flew the flag was illegal and a viloation of civil rights.

She should be prosecuted.

I DON'T BELIEVE THE KATU NEWS STATEMENT THAT AN ACLU LAWYER WAS CONSULTED. THEY ARE GOOD LAWYERS AND KNOW THAT WHAT THIS WOMAN DID WAS ILLEGAL AND SHOULD BE PROSECUTED.

FREEDOM TO DISPLAY THE AMERICAN FLAG
Pub. L. 109-243, July 24, 2006, 120 Stat. 572, provided that:

"SEC. 3. RIGHT TO DISPLAY THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES.
"A condominium association, cooperative association, or
residential real estate management association may not adopt or
enforce any policy, or enter into any agreement, that would
restrict or prevent a member of the association from displaying the
flag of the United States on residential property within the
association with respect to which such member has a separate
ownership interest or a right to exclusive possession or use."

cnitas

Check your post DC.  I am not wrong.

That applies to associations, which are specific legal entities where the residents are owners or part owners of the property. 

This does not apply to your standard apartment complex which is owned wholly by a third party and run by a management company.
Mark A. Piersall, Lt Col, CAP
Frederick Composite Squadron
MER-MD-003

isuhawkeye

Quotewith respect to which such member has a separate
ownership interest or a right to exclusive possession or use

jimmydeanno

Quote from: isuhawkeye on October 15, 2009, 04:01:04 PM
Quotewith respect to which such member has a separate
ownership interest or a right to exclusive possession or use

The member of an apartment building doesn't have separate ownership interest...

The member of an apartment building doesn't have exclusive possession or use...
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

DC

Quote from: cnitas on October 15, 2009, 03:21:48 PM
Check your post DC.  I am not wrong.

That applies to associations, which are specific legal entities where the residents are owners or part owners of the property. 

This does not apply to your standard apartment complex which is owned wholly by a third party and run by a management company.
Just as a quick note here, DG and I are different people...

I can see the confusion though, with the similarity in screen name.

Now back to your regularly scheduled thread...

cnitas

DC...DG.

Wow, I had not noticed that before.  Now my whole image of you needs to be re-evaluated!  ;D
 
Sorry for the confusion.   
Mark A. Piersall, Lt Col, CAP
Frederick Composite Squadron
MER-MD-003

DG

You can NOT prohibit someone from displaying the U.S. flag.

I'll take that case any day, any where.

And I'll kick their ass.

Spike

Quote from: DG on October 15, 2009, 09:51:01 PM
You can NOT prohibit someone from displaying the U.S. flag.

I'll take that case any day, any where.

And I'll kick their ass.

Actually you can, and it happened to me.  Remember back in 2003 when we first entered Iraq.  We placed an American flag on an Iraqi Army training building after we took it over.  State Department guys came in and told our Commander to tell us to take them down.

There are also State Laws that regulate what can be flow from your Car or motorcycle (even hung from your rear view mirror) based on "safety" issues.     


flyguy06

Quote from: DBlair on October 14, 2009, 06:26:37 PM
This bothers me on so many levels... just thought other CAPTalk members may find this to be of interest.


Management of an Oregon apartment complex bans American flags because "...the flags could be offensive because they live in a diverse community." Residents were told to take down their flags or face eviction.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/64059697.html


If you wish to make your voice heard:
Oaks Apartments
1440 Geary Cir SE
Albany, OR 97322
(541) 967-1284

Is that leagal? I would think that if they want a diverse environment that they would welcome all flags. Doesnt make sense what does being diverse have to do with flying an American flag? RThat is diverisity accepting all.

flyguy06

You guys are taking it fron this Amrerican pride thing. Thats not what I am saying I dont care what flag it is. Youi should be able to fly any flag you choose.

DG

Quote from: flyguy06 on October 16, 2009, 03:31:43 AM
You guys are taking it fron this Amrerican pride thing. Thats not what I am saying I dont care what flag it is. Youi should be able to fly any flag you choose.


It is not mainly a matter of American pride.  Is race or sex a protected class because of pride?  No.  It is a matter of natural rights and constitutional and statutory law.  Same with the U.S. flag in the U.S.

PHall

Quote from: flyguy06 on October 16, 2009, 03:31:43 AM
You guys are taking it fron this Amrerican pride thing. Thats not what I am saying I dont care what flag it is. Youi should be able to fly any flag you choose.

Okay, how about somebody flying the Confederate Battle flag across the street from your house?

Still feel the same way now?

Al Sayre

Quote from: PHall on October 16, 2009, 04:03:35 PM
Quote from: flyguy06 on October 16, 2009, 03:31:43 AM
You guys are taking it fron this Amrerican pride thing. Thats not what I am saying I dont care what flag it is. Youi should be able to fly any flag you choose.

Okay, how about somebody flying the Confederate Battle flag across the street from your house?

Still feel the same way now?

I live in Mississippi, it would be stranger not to see the Stars and Bars...
Lt Col Al Sayre
MS Wing Staff Dude
Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska
GRW #2787

flyerthom

#39
Quote from: Al Sayre on October 16, 2009, 04:18:14 PM
I live in Mississippi, it would be stranger not to see the Stars and Bars...

I live in Vegas, it would be strange not to see Bars and Stars  >:D
TC