Source of scale rockets for the Model Rocketry program

Started by freeflight, September 18, 2008, 11:39:14 PM

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freeflight

For those of you who are working on the Model Rocketry program and need resources for the scale portion, here is some information that is found on NARAM-50 web page. This information was compiled by George Gassaway who is a great source for rocketry
http://homepage.mac.com/georgegassaway/TIPS/contest/scale.htm#plans

Scale Kit Sources
Note that some manufacturers make kit models that look scale-like but are not based on a real rocket (sometimes called "Pseudo-scale", or "scale-like"). So, if you are looking for a kit, make sure it is of a real rocket, missile, or launch vehicle. Some manufacturers have made kits of "bombs", but those are not missiles, so would not be legal for Scale.
Also note that kits can vary widely as to how accurate they are. If a company describes its kit as "semi-scale", then it likely is a scale model of a real rocket, but it probably compromises scale qualities and accuracy significantly.
Kit sources   Notes
Estes
Patriot Missile, Cruise Missile, Bull Pup 12B Missile, Phoenix Missile, Mercury Redstone, V-2, Saturn-V
ASP (Aerospace Specialty Products)   Various scale kits, including Corporal, D - Region Tomahawk, IQSY Tomahawk, FOTL, Kappa-7-1, Kappa-9M, RAM B, Rohini RH - 75, RP - 3, Sandia Sandhawk, Sonda II B, Super Loki Dart, and V-2. ASP also has the Wac-Corporal, but only the two-staged kits with the "Tiny Tim" booster are legal for Sport Scale.
Apogee Components
Highly detailed Saturn-IB and Saturn-V kits, at 1/70 scale. If building the Saturn-V, keep in mind the 1500 gram and 160 N-sec limits.
Aerotech
IQSY Tomahawk and Astrobee-D kits.
Saturn Press
Two kits designed by Peter Alway: Arcas and Astrobee 1500
Cosmodrome Rocketry
Kits: Nike Smoke, Nike Apache, Vostok, Black Brant II, Aerobee Hi
Sigma Rockets - Black Brants - ARG
Black Brant 1/10 scale models by Taras Tataryn of ARG. BLACK BRANT series - I, IIB, III, IV, V, VA, & VC
Scale Kits
Missile Kits: Alarm, AMRAAM, Bull Pup, Guideline, Lance, Little John, Sea Sparrow, Sidewinder
Neubauer Rockets
Various scale kits including Mercury-Redstone, Mercury-Atlas, Gemini-Titan, and Juno-I
The Launch Pad (TLP)
It is highly recommended to buy TLP kits from dealers, such as the partial list below:
*   Performance Hobbies

*   Commonwealth Displays

*   Magnum

*   Discount Rocketry

   
   Missile Kits:Alarm, AMRAAM AIM-120a, Anubis, ASM-1 (Type 80), ASRAAM, Bolo, Bullpup AGM-12B & 12C, Dragonfly, Exocet Am.39, Falcon AIM-4C, Flail, Folgore, Gabriel III/AS, Gecko, Grail SA-7, HARM, Harpoon AGM-84a, Hawk Mim-23a, (Improved) Hawk MIM-23B, Hellfire AGM-114a, Indigo, Kormoran AS.34, Krypton, Lance Mgm-52, Martel AS.37, Martin Pescador, Matra "Magic" R.550, Matra Super 530d, Maverick AGM-65b, Nike Ajax Mim-3A, Osiris MPM, AC-3, Perseus, Perseus II, Pershing MGM-31A, Phoenix AIM-54C, Rapier, Saab 372 (RB 72), Saab RB 05A, Scimitar, Seawolf, Sidewinder, Sparrow AIM-7F, Standard AGM-78, Tan-Sam (Type 81), Type 30 Artillery Rocket.
  Launch Pad Plan-Paks - Guideline SA-2, Nike Hercules, Scimitar, Scud-B (SS-1C), Standard RIM-67A, Warlock.
True Modeler's Rocket Kits
Scale kits of the NASA Scout, Aries "Fat Albert", Juno 1/Jupiter C, and NIKE Smoke.
Accur8 Spacemodels
By John Pursley. Incredibly detailed 1/12 scale Mercury Capsule kit (capsule only).
Rocket R&D
Have scale & semi-scale kits. The 2.6" kits include Army Hawk, Jayhawk, Sandhawk, & Standard ARM. Some of the 3.9" kits, aimed at higher power, may be too big to make it under the 1500 gram limit.
Missile Works
Kits: Sandia Tomahawk, Black Brant III, Zimcor VIPER, MGM-52A Lance, XM-47 Little John, RV-A-10 Sergeant
QUEST
Nike-Smoke kit. Unfortunately the new Quick-bulld version seems to have a black body tube, with white UNITED STATES decals, which is not correct. Painting the black tube white would be difficult to get as white as the other parts, and would need custom decals. Available from various dealers, including Pratt Hobbies. (Google search for Quest Nike-Smoke kit dealers)

AlphaSigOU

Built straight out of the bag, the Estes Mercury-Redstone flies well; but the fins were deliberately overscaled for stability. If you choose to use fins that are true to scale, you'll need to add nose weight; otherwise it is marginally stable in all but very calm winds.

The new Estes D-Region Tomahawk kit is more of a scale replica than previous iterations; it includes the faceted fin shroud. The entire payload section is molded into a single-piece nose cone, except for the tip.

Any Saturn (I, IB or V) is notoriously difficult to build and fly. Compromises to achieve stability are built into many production kits, such as clear plastic or overscale fins.

Lt Col Charles E. (Chuck) Corway, CAP
Gill Robb Wilson Award (#2901 - 2011)
Amelia Earhart Award (#1257 - 1982) - C/Major (retired)
Billy Mitchell Award (#2375 - 1981)
Administrative/Personnel/Professional Development Officer
Nellis Composite Squadron (PCR-NV-069)
KJ6GHO - NAR 45040

DC

Quote from: AlphaSigOU on September 23, 2008, 03:34:25 AM
Built straight out of the bag, the Estes Mercury-Redstone flies well; but the fins were deliberately overscaled for stability. If you choose to use fins that are true to scale, you'll need to add nose weight; otherwise it is marginally stable in all but very calm winds.

The new Estes D-Region Tomahawk kit is more of a scale replica than previous iterations; it includes the faceted fin shroud. The entire payload section is molded into a single-piece nose cone, except for the tip.

Any Saturn (I, IB or V) is notoriously difficult to build and fly. Compromises to achieve stability are built into many production kits, such as clear plastic or overscale fins.


For our upcoming rocketry bivouac we are going to be using the Estes model of the Patriot Missile. They don't make the Mercury-Redstone anymore, unfortunately. There is a lot more available as far as scale in the mid and high powered areas. The low power rockets, especially the ones from Estes, are more geared toward attracting kids attention.

I'm really considering getting the Astrotech Aerobee, it looks pretty nice.

AlphaSigOU

A simple, built-from scratch scale model that can be made from available parts: the IQSY (International Quiet Sun Year) Tomahawk. Aerotech makes a high-power kit of it, but if you get ahold of the late G. Harry Stine's Handbook of Model Rocketry there is a good scale drawing of the IQSY Tomahawk. 7th edition co-authored by his son, Bill.

I used to work for Aerotech many years ago making motors and doing flight testing of prototypes.
Lt Col Charles E. (Chuck) Corway, CAP
Gill Robb Wilson Award (#2901 - 2011)
Amelia Earhart Award (#1257 - 1982) - C/Major (retired)
Billy Mitchell Award (#2375 - 1981)
Administrative/Personnel/Professional Development Officer
Nellis Composite Squadron (PCR-NV-069)
KJ6GHO - NAR 45040

DC

Quote from: DC on September 23, 2008, 05:12:44 PM
Quote from: AlphaSigOU on September 23, 2008, 03:34:25 AM
Built straight out of the bag, the Estes Mercury-Redstone flies well; but the fins were deliberately overscaled for stability. If you choose to use fins that are true to scale, you'll need to add nose weight; otherwise it is marginally stable in all but very calm winds.

The new Estes D-Region Tomahawk kit is more of a scale replica than previous iterations; it includes the faceted fin shroud. The entire payload section is molded into a single-piece nose cone, except for the tip.

Any Saturn (I, IB or V) is notoriously difficult to build and fly. Compromises to achieve stability are built into many production kits, such as clear plastic or overscale fins.


For our upcoming rocketry bivouac we are going to be using the Estes model of the Patriot Missile. They don't make the Mercury-Redstone anymore, unfortunately. There is a lot more available as far as scale in the mid and high powered areas. The low power rockets, especially the ones from Estes, are more geared toward attracting kids attention.

I'm really considering getting the Aerotech Aerobee, it looks pretty nice.

freeflight

One of the best sources of scale information is Peter Always "Rockets of the World" is being printed in its fourth edition. It can be purchased from the National Association of Rocketry.  Their NARTS web page also has several other books written by Professor Always all of them excellent sources.
https://blastzone.com/nar/narts/store.asp?groupid=1080035015601

freeflight

Here is an updated link to George Gassaway's web page on scale completion in NAR. There are several links to manufactures and suppliers.
http://homepage.mac.com/georgegassaway/TIPS/contest/scale.htm