It's finally here!

[a2capt]

Those double as deflectors.

[TarRiverRat]

Quote from: AFI 36-2903

Air Force Command Insignia: Current commander center 1/2 inch above nametag; graduated commander center 1/2 inch below nametag. If duty badges are worn with the command insignia (graduated commander), center the duty badge 1/2 inch below command insignia. AF Command insignia is mandatory.

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Just to get it straight in my head, does this mean that the badge will go on the flap of the pocket on the aviator shirts for the graduated commander?

[arajca]

Quote from: AFI 36-2903

Air Force Command Insignia: Current commander center 1/2 inch above nametag; graduated commander center 1/2 inch below nametag. If duty badges are worn with the command insignia (graduated commander), center the duty badge 1/2 inch below command insignia. AF Command insignia is mandatory.

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Just to get it straight in my head, does this mean that the badge will go on the flap of the pocket on the aviator shirts for the graduated commander?

This means nothing for CAP.

[a2capt]

Quote from: AFI 36-2903

That's nice. Too bad that's not our manual.

[SarDragon]

Lame 'Shop job.

[LSThiker]

Just to get it straight in my head, does this mean that the badge will go on the flap of the pocket on the aviator shirts for the graduated commander?

Yes it does.  However, the appropriate reference is:

Current commanders wear the appropriate command pin centered on the wearer's right side, centered 1⁄2 inch above the name tag. If a specialty track or service badge is worn on the wearer's right side above the name tag, center badge 1⁄2 inch above the command insignia. If member is a graduated commander, place command insignia 1⁄2 inch below the nametag and centered.

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Oddly though, the badge is mandatory for the USAF-style BDUs and Service Dress, but optional for the CAP Distinctive BDU and Service Dress.  I think they should just make it mandatory for both.

[a2capt]

Lame 'Shop job.

Not that one. This is the fake:

[SarDragon]

Oops. Scrood the pooch. 

[TarRiverRat]

Thanks LSThiker.

[LSThiker]

Not that one. This is the fake:

So we know who is not traveling to North Korea any time soon

[Panache]

I saw my oversight RE: Wing/Unit patch heraldry guidelines and have since rescinded my position on that. I merely did not see the word "new."

On another aspect in regards to BDU headgear. Obviously we know boonie hats are still not allowed, but did anyone else notice that the standard Patrol-style cap is no longer authorized either? 6.2.10.1 specifically mentions baseball style BDU caps but not patrol-style. However, in 6.2.12.1, the patrol cap is specifically mentioned as the only style for BBDU.

In my wing, every surplus store has tons of new, used, and surplus BDUs, and they all carry the patrol cap. I don't think I've ever seen a BDU baseball cap for sale in a surplus store...

5.1.2.8 Headgear. - Headgear. - Wear of headgear is mandatory. Either the BDU Cap, the CAP Baseball Cap or the Black Watch cap (when in a cold weather environment), may be worn.

6.2.10 - BDU Cap. Will only be worn with the Battle Dress Uniform. For placement of appropriate insignia, see figure A5-8.
6.2.10.1 - The BDU cap will be composed of a cloth woodland camouflage print, and the back half of the baseball style cap may be plastic mesh. The BDU cap will rest squarely on the head with the bottom of the cap parallel with the ground. The brim of the cap will face forward. Cap may not be pushed, rolled, folded or tucked in (e.g. ranger fold).

Huh.  Good catch.

[Panache]

Not that one. This is the fake:

So we know who is not traveling to North Korea any time soon

Well, not unless you love dogs.

[PHall]

The US military seems to have gone bling crazy over the past 30 years or so.
Most other countries haven't.

So true...oh, wait...

I guess you missed that first word. Most.

[wuzafuzz]

I saw my oversight RE: Wing/Unit patch heraldry guidelines and have since rescinded my position on that. I merely did not see the word "new."

On another aspect in regards to BDU headgear. Obviously we know boonie hats are still not allowed, but did anyone else notice that the standard Patrol-style cap is no longer authorized either? 6.2.10.1 specifically mentions baseball style BDU caps but not patrol-style. However, in 6.2.12.1, the patrol cap is specifically mentioned as the only style for BBDU.

In my wing, every surplus store has tons of new, used, and surplus BDUs, and they all carry the patrol cap. I don't think I've ever seen a BDU baseball cap for sale in a surplus store...

5.1.2.8 Headgear. - Headgear. - Wear of headgear is mandatory. Either the BDU Cap, the CAP Baseball Cap or the Black Watch cap (when in a cold weather environment), may be worn.

6.2.10 - BDU Cap. Will only be worn with the Battle Dress Uniform. For placement of appropriate insignia, see figure A5-8.
6.2.10.1 - The BDU cap will be composed of a cloth woodland camouflage print, and the back half of the baseball style cap may be plastic mesh. The BDU cap will rest squarely on the head with the bottom of the cap parallel with the ground. The brim of the cap will face forward. Cap may not be pushed, rolled, folded or tucked in (e.g. ranger fold).

Huh.  Good catch.

I think the patrol cap is safe.  Baseball style caps with mesh backing are permitted, but not required.

"...the back half of the baseball style cap may be plastic mesh."


Edit: fixed typo

[NIN]

I think the patrol cap is safe.  Baseball style caps with mesh backing are permitted, but not required.

"...the back half of the baseball style cap may be plastic mesh."


Edit: fixed typo

I don't think so much it is an issue of "safe," its that the camouflage baseball cap != BDU cap.

What is being described is the BDU cap. You want to have a camouflage baseball cap? Hey, fine, define it.

But a "BDU cap" is this:

Not this:

[JeffDG]

Which really tickled my funny bone when the bling haters here on CAPTALK talked about how bling was not important to "real professionals". 

Yeah, this guy's not a "real professional" at all...no bling at all...

You're comparing apples and watermelons here.

The US military seems to have gone bling crazy over the past 30 years or so.
Most other countries haven't.

But he has command authority over US military personnel, lots of 'em.

[PHall]

Which really tickled my funny bone when the bling haters here on CAPTALK talked about how bling was not important to "real professionals". 

Yeah, this guy's not a "real professional" at all...no bling at all...

You're comparing apples and watermelons here.

The US military seems to have gone bling crazy over the past 30 years or so.
Most other countries haven't.

But he has command authority over US military personnel, lots of 'em.

So what's your point?      Never questioned his professionalism or his authority.

[JeffDG]

Someone else made a point that you had to have bling to have respect.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

Which really tickled my funny bone when the bling haters here on CAPTALK talked about how bling was not important to "real professionals". 

Yeah, this guy's not a "real professional" at all...no bling at all...

You're comparing apples and watermelons here.

The US military seems to have gone bling crazy over the past 30 years or so.
Most other countries haven't.

But he has command authority over US military personnel, lots of 'em.

The bling he does have is quite significant, though...the picture isn't clear enough for me to recognise his bottom three, but the top one (just below his wings) is the Canadian Order of Military Merit, and the Queen/Governor-General doesn't give those out just for showing up.

We have gone bling-crazy in the U.S.

A new Airman out of Lackland potentially can have as much bling than this Canadian Lieutenant (leff-tenant)-General:

1. Air Force Training Ribbon
2. NDSM
3. Air Force Marksmanship Ribbon
4. BMT HonGrad

In my view, we have cheapened the value of our ribbons by turning too many of them into "fog-a-mirror" awards for just showing up.

My dad, when he got out of the Army in 1959, had the Army GCM and Sharpshooter's badge with "Rifle" bar, and that's it.

Having said that, though, I think it is abject stupidity that we cannot wear CAP miniature medals (not just one) on the blazer, since that's all they're going to let us have for the G/W kit.

Ideally, for formal occasions, the rules should be the same as for mess dress: miniature medals and the silver bullion embroidered wings.

And for crying out loud, get rid of the pocket protector!

[Panache]

I've always thought that the "Membership Ribbon" was silly.  If I'm there and in a uniform, I"m obviously a member.