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General Discussion => Membership => Topic started by: lostdude1664 on June 22, 2015, 04:58:00 AM

Title: OPSEC
Post by: lostdude1664 on June 22, 2015, 04:58:00 AM
I need to get the direct link to OPSEC to teach a class on OPSEC. Can you send me a direct link? Thanks!
Title: Re: OPSEC
Post by: lordmonar on June 22, 2015, 05:22:20 AM
The link seems to be broken....I just dropped a trouble ticket to see what the problem is.
Title: Re: OPSEC
Post by: JeffDG on June 22, 2015, 12:46:14 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 22, 2015, 05:22:20 AM
The link seems to be broken....I just dropped a trouble ticket to see what the problem is.

I could tell you what the link is, but then I'd have to kill you.   >:D
Title: Re: OPSEC
Post by: almostspaatz on June 22, 2015, 06:44:26 PM
Quote from: JeffDG on June 22, 2015, 12:46:14 PM
I could tell you what the link is, but then I'd have to kill you.   >:D

:clap:
Title: Re: OPSEC
Post by: Holding Pattern on June 23, 2015, 12:11:52 AM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 22, 2015, 05:22:20 AM
The link seems to be broken....I just dropped a trouble ticket to see what the problem is.

My last interaction on the subject was that the link has been discontinued since it is only used once by everyone, and is incorporated into the eservices onboarding process now.
Title: Re: OPSEC
Post by: Brad on June 23, 2015, 07:26:59 AM
A Squadron in TXWG came up with this apparently, current as of 2014: http://www.captx129.org/download/Library/OPSEC%20-%20Security%20Training%20Rev%206.0%20Jan-2014.ppsx (http://www.captx129.org/download/Library/OPSEC%20-%20Security%20Training%20Rev%206.0%20Jan-2014.ppsx), if you need something until the NHQ links are fixed.
Title: Re: OPSEC
Post by: lordmonar on June 23, 2015, 05:53:28 PM
Just got the KB answer.   The course is discontinued. 
Title: Re: OPSEC
Post by: Tim Medeiros on June 24, 2015, 10:50:00 AM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 23, 2015, 05:53:28 PM
Just got the KB answer.   The course is discontinued.
This may be the 10 hour work shift taking its toll on my brain here, but, did I just read that right?  That the OPSEC course is discontinued?  Isn't this required to even log into eServices?  Was there an announcement I missed somewhere?
Title: Re: OPSEC
Post by: lordmonar on June 24, 2015, 12:24:51 PM
Quote from: Tim Medeiros on June 24, 2015, 10:50:00 AM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 23, 2015, 05:53:28 PM
Just got the KB answer.   The course is discontinued.
This may be the 10 hour work shift taking its toll on my brain here, but, did I just read that right?  That the OPSEC course is discontinued?  Isn't this required to even log into eServices?  Was there an announcement I missed somewhere?
It is now part of the initial E-Services Log-in protocol.   Ergo....anyone who can log into E-services has completed OPSEC training.

Title: Re: OPSEC
Post by: kwe1009 on June 24, 2015, 04:21:28 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 24, 2015, 12:24:51 PM
Quote from: Tim Medeiros on June 24, 2015, 10:50:00 AM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 23, 2015, 05:53:28 PM
Just got the KB answer.   The course is discontinued.
This may be the 10 hour work shift taking its toll on my brain here, but, did I just read that right?  That the OPSEC course is discontinued?  Isn't this required to even log into eServices?  Was there an announcement I missed somewhere?
It is now part of the initial E-Services Log-in protocol.   Ergo....anyone who can log into E-services has completed OPSEC training.

I believe it has been that way for a number of years.  When I joined 3 years ago I had to take the OPSEC course as soon as I logged in the first time.
Title: Re: OPSEC
Post by: Holding Pattern on June 26, 2015, 12:57:45 AM
As an aside, IMHO this is a mistake, as it essentially means that our OPSEC curriculum is designed to teach people about OPSEC precisely ONCE in their entire CAP career.

It's been turned into a checkbox course (that is, "We've built this to satisfy a compliance requirement, but not to actually teach anything") and it will likely bite us sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: OPSEC
Post by: PHall on June 26, 2015, 01:02:14 AM
Quote from: Starfleet Auxiliary on June 26, 2015, 12:57:45 AM
As an aside, IMHO this is a mistake, as it essentially means that our OPSEC curriculum is designed to teach people about OPSEC precisely ONCE in their entire CAP career.

It's been turned into a checkbox course (that is, "We've built this to satisfy a compliance requirement, but not to actually teach anything") and it will likely bite us sooner rather than later.

It's a check box course in the Air Force right now. Something covered during the mandatory training day in October. Usually via a "Death by Power Point" slide show.
We're just following Big Blue's lead on this.
Title: Re: OPSEC
Post by: Mitchell 1969 on June 26, 2015, 06:08:22 AM
Quote from: PHall on June 26, 2015, 01:02:14 AM
Quote from: Starfleet Auxiliary on June 26, 2015, 12:57:45 AM
As an aside, IMHO this is a mistake, as it essentially means that our OPSEC curriculum is designed to teach people about OPSEC precisely ONCE in their entire CAP career.

It's been turned into a checkbox course (that is, "We've built this to satisfy a compliance requirement, but not to actually teach anything") and it will likely bite us sooner rather than later.

It's a check box course in the Air Force right now. Something covered during the mandatory training day in October. Usually via a "Death by Power Point" slide show.
We're just following Big Blue's lead on this.

And....nothing says that reminders can't be given from time to time (2-3 minutes?) without having to repeat a course.

Then again, our Safety compliance program deviates from that logic, doesn't it?
Title: Re: OPSEC
Post by: PHall on June 27, 2015, 01:33:58 AM
Quote from: Mitchell 1969 on June 26, 2015, 06:08:22 AM
Quote from: PHall on June 26, 2015, 01:02:14 AM
Quote from: Starfleet Auxiliary on June 26, 2015, 12:57:45 AM
As an aside, IMHO this is a mistake, as it essentially means that our OPSEC curriculum is designed to teach people about OPSEC precisely ONCE in their entire CAP career.

It's been turned into a checkbox course (that is, "We've built this to satisfy a compliance requirement, but not to actually teach anything") and it will likely bite us sooner rather than later.

It's a check box course in the Air Force right now. Something covered during the mandatory training day in October. Usually via a "Death by Power Point" slide show.
We're just following Big Blue's lead on this.

And....nothing says that reminders can't be given from time to time (2-3 minutes?) without having to repeat a course.

Then again, our Safety compliance program deviates from that logic, doesn't it?

You're assuming that they're using logic. You know what happens when you assume, right? >:D