CAP Talk

This is lengthy but I am curious. This one stems from the other discussion. May be interesting to see if there is a pattern.

Not sure what you are looking for, since you can only pick one from the whole list.

Quote from: Al Sayre on January 24, 2007, 08:34:41 PM
Not sure what you are looking for, since you can only pick one from the whole list.

Fixed that multiple choices deal.  Not sure if that was the intent though.

No I think multi was the intent, but I don't know if that works when you can't really track awards by grade/TIS. Not sure the simple pool option here really supports what he was wanting to do, but let's see how it goes.

I realize that it is somewhat simple but that is what I am looking for.

1) Put in current rank.
2) Closest Year Category. SM Only
3) Mark all levels of service (Squadron Commander, Group Commander) Mark Both.
4) Awards Received.

Quote from: caphistorian on January 24, 2007, 08:49:02 PM
2) Closest Year Category.

Cadet time too, or just as a senior?  If you're counting cadet time, I'm coming up on 10 years.

It looks as (at least for today 24 January 2007) that most blokes here are like me.

A Squadron Level Major...

I can't wait to see how it comes out.

I found this poll confusing.


I only selected red service and encampment.

Why are the years SM only?

Quote from: markh on January 24, 2007, 10:43:24 PM
I found this poll confusing.


I only selected red service and encampment.

Why are the years SM only?

Actually....for any of the information to be valid...only SM should respond.  Cadets vs SM would be apples and oranges.

However, not counting prior years as a cadet will slant the results.

Currently, the "average" is split fairly closely between the 10 and 15 year points.

If you allow time as a cadet to be counted, I'll bet that the average jumps up a notch to the 15 and 20 year points. I know that personally it would change my answer to 25+.

If you do a version 2, I'd like to suggest splitting out years as a Cadet and years as a Senior. And as a followup, highest cadet award (Mitchell, Earheart, Eaker, or Spaatz).

The "average member" would probably go from "Squadron Level Major with 10 years" to "Squadron Level Major with 20+ years and earned the Earheart or Eaker as a Cadet"

Crap, I'm th only butterbar here ???

And who is the slack that doesn't have their Yeager :o

And to add confusion, if you ask for highest cadet award, under which training program are you referring to? Under the cadet program prior to 1964, the Cadet COP plus two clasps was as high as you could go. (one clasp would have done the same AE and leadership as Earhart, and 2nd clasp would be Spaatz except for the PT portion.)You would be surprised at the number of former cadets that were under the old program still active in CAP.

We didn't have Eaker's back when I was a cadet, but my Earhart has a silver clasp for my Phase IV letter.

Quote from: carnold1836 on January 25, 2007, 01:03:12 AM
Crap, I'm th only butterbar here ???

And who is the slack that doesn't have their Yeager :o

You're not the only butterbar anymore. 8)

And I do have my Yeager.

A brief summary of my normal procedure when I was filling out the 120's.

Awards Recommendation Format

(Member) Distinguished themselves during the period 01 January 2006 to 01 December 2006 while performing duties as (Current Assisgnment).

The inclusive date should include all of the time spent for a specific task or group of tasks. Should include time spent preparing for it and actually doing the work.

Member performed duties as (Assignment or Task) while assigned to the (Unit or Activity). Member performed  commendable, meritorious, exceptional, distinguished service in (trigger phrase) above assigned tasks by (specific description or ALL work involved) which resulted in (anything above their expected level of performance). List how this impacted the Assignment or Task. (Member) went above and beyond while (list additional tasks and results. Summary of tasks and small reiteration of all jobs performed.

Member has had a tremendous impact on the Civil Air Patrol (task or activity) and clearly went above expectations in the performance of their duties. They have brought great credit upon themselves and the CAP.

I can cut and paste one that my former GP Deputy filled out in 2002 if wanted! It doesnt follow my format but does show how some are done!

Quote from: lordmonar on January 25, 2007, 12:10:04 AM

Quote from: markh on January 24, 2007, 10:43:24 PM
I found this poll confusing.


I only selected red service and encampment.

Why are the years SM only?

Actually....for any of the information to be valid...only SM should respond.  Cadets vs SM would be apples and oranges.

Oppss.... I guess they should make a cadet one............ :-\

I call shenanigans!

There's no FO/TFO/SFO grades! ::)

Fedor, just consider yourself a brevet Capt. for the purpose of this poll. I was a cadet and then a FO before I was a Lt.

Shouldn't "Membership" be 100%?

Not as a highest award.

Quote from: MajorSER on January 26, 2007, 06:19:53 AM
Shouldn't "Membership" be 100%?

Also some cadets posted.

Quote from: caphistorian on January 25, 2007, 04:31:44 PM
A brief summary of my normal procedure when I was filling out the 120's.

Awards Recommendation Format

(Member) Distinguished themselves during the period 01 January 2006 to 01 December 2006 while performing duties as (Current Assisgnment).

The inclusive date should include all of the time spent for a specific task or group of tasks. Should include time spent preparing for it and actually doing the work.

Member performed duties as (Assignment or Task) while assigned to the (Unit or Activity). Member performed  commendable, meritorious, exceptional, distinguished service in (trigger phrase) above assigned tasks by (specific description or ALL work involved) which resulted in (anything above their expected level of performance). List how this impacted the Assignment or Task. (Member) went above and beyond while (list additional tasks and results. Summary of tasks and small reiteration of all jobs performed.

Member has had a tremendous impact on the Civil Air Patrol (task or activity) and clearly went above expectations in the performance of their duties. They have brought great credit upon themselves and the CAP.

I can cut and paste one that my former GP Deputy filled out in 2002 if wanted! It doesnt follow my format but does show how some are done!

I have attached a document that might be of some assistance in making recommendations for awards.  Please remember, it is only a guideline and not a mandatory format.  If it helps only one individual in recommending someone for an award, it was worth the posting.