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Spike

Quote from: SJFedor on June 07, 2009, 12:01:51 PM
Note that along with the "40" and the vodka, there's a bottle of Listerine. However, along with the alcohol in there (approximately 54 proof), there's some other things that really just aren't good for you to be ingesting.

I believe what you are saying, but if you look closely the Listerine bottle is unopened while the others have already been opened.  Perhaps the Listerine was a legitimate item, not intended to be consumed??

I always told my cadets that if they wanted to bring mouthwash along at a CAP activity, it had to say "Alcohol Free" on the bottle, and be unopened upon arrival.  Then I would get the question "That is unfair....why do I have to buy a new bottle"?  My response...."because others can not be trusted".

I remember back in Junior and Senior High school, Colgate, Crest, and a bunch of other manufacturers would supply free items (to include mouthwash) to students in a bag (Direct Marketing at its finest!).  Some of the kids would gather up the mouthwash items and drink them.  Eventually after a kid got sick the School board agreed to stop handing out the mouthwash in the packages.

Anyway....you would be surprised at what contains alcohol these days.     

Spike

Quote from: BrandonKea on June 07, 2009, 08:40:35 PM
....But at the same time, don't glorify drinking as some "Rite of Passage" that once you hit college, you've gotta be doing to fit in. That's a sure ticket for a youthful abuser of alcohol.

But don't pretend it does not exist, or make it out to be the "big evil" that we see certain groups doing.  MADD is a perfect example.  They get funding by scaring society into believing that Alcohol is the most evil and dangerous thing on the planet.  More people are killed every year by non DUI/DWI accidents that those caused by intoxicated individuals.  Biggest cause of accidents in 2008......falling asleep/ being too tired to drive.  Why are there no campaigns against the dangers of driving when too tired??

Not educating children on responsible drinking is just as bad as letting them drink at 14.  BECAUSE when the kid becomes old enough to drink, he or she has no idea how to do it responsibly.

Makes you wonder how the United States survived before there were drinking laws...huh??

Society did not fall apart before 1924 when drinking laws were invented. 

Don't forget that many parts of the world, drinking is accepted at even younger ages.   


SJFedor

Quote from: BrandonKea on June 07, 2009, 08:40:35 PM
Quote from: SJFedor on June 07, 2009, 12:01:51 PM
And, as an aside, is this something that is addressed in the DDR program?

I doubt it. And could you imagine cadets telling their parents "we learned in CAP you can get loaded from a bottle of Listerine!"

I'm not saying "tell them you can get hammered off of this stuff" but rather highlight the added dangers of attempting to do so. I'd think a bottle of listerine might be easier to get a hold of then a bottle of liquor for a  teenager, and addressing it and further highlighting the dangers of consuming it (ulcers, stomach/intestinal damage, not to mention the flatulence and diarhea from drinking it) would be of benefit. In middle school, I sometimes overheard friends talking about how they got "loaded" off a bottle of listerine/scope, followed by about how sick they got and how bad their head hurt the next day.

Quote from: Spike on June 07, 2009, 08:49:21 PM
Quote from: SJFedor on June 07, 2009, 12:01:51 PM
Note that along with the "40" and the vodka, there's a bottle of Listerine. However, along with the alcohol in there (approximately 54 proof), there's some other things that really just aren't good for you to be ingesting.

I believe what you are saying, but if you look closely the Listerine bottle is unopened while the others have already been opened.  Perhaps the Listerine was a legitimate item, not intended to be consumed??

Patients that consume mouthwash as a substitute to just buying alcohol have a distinct odor, both from their breath and from their pores. I could smell this dude had been drinking it before I even entered the room. It's possible he just hadn't gotten to it yet because he still had his handle of vodka and his 40 to finish first.

Steven Fedor, NREMT-P
Master Ambulance Driver
Former Capt, MP, MCPE, MO, MS, GTL, and various other 3-and-4 letter combinations
NESA MAS Instructor, 2008-2010 (#479)

AndrewA74

To get this topic back in line, I just finished my first encampment two weeks ago, and after we got up around 0500 we had to go to the head (by flight), so we were in the head, and the Cadet Commander walks in, and someone shouts, "ROOM TEN-HUT!". The Cadet Commander looks down and says, "THIS IS A BATHROOM! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?" and stomps out. And then, on another day, we had to get up 'quietly' because a Marine was sleeping in the same barracks with us, and he was still sleeping, so we had to be really quiet in getting up and motivating.

JCJ

Cadet encampment - a male cadet is caught texting on cell phone (contraband).  A review of the text messages on the confiscated phone reveals:

"I love u ur so hot Jenny" (name changed to protect the guilty)

Review of the cadet roster reveals that there indeed is a cadet Jenny (last name) at encampment.  She is summoned to the command post:

Encampment Director of Cadet Training:  "Cadet, what is the cadet honor code?"

Cadet Jenny:  "Sir we will not lie, cheat, steal nor tolerate those who do sir!"

Encampment Director of Cadet Training:  "Cadet, do you have a cell phone?"

Cadet Jenny:  "uh, uh, uh, ..."

I think they both marched off some tours & got to finish.  But it was hilarious.

coolkites

wow I can imagine being embarrassed  as heck.

PHall

Quote from: JCJ on September 07, 2009, 03:15:44 PM
Cadet encampment - a male cadet is caught texting on cell phone (contraband).  A review of the text messages on the confiscated phone reveals:

"I love u ur so hot Jenny" (name changed to protect the guilty)

Review of the cadet roster reveals that there indeed is a cadet Jenny (last name) at encampment.  She is summoned to the command post:

Encampment Director of Cadet Training:  "Cadet, what is the cadet honor code?"

Cadet Jenny:  "Sir we will not lie, cheat, steal nor tolerate those who do sir!"

Encampment Director of Cadet Training:  "Cadet, do you have a cell phone?"

Cadet Jenny:  "uh, uh, uh, ..."

I think they both marched off some tours & got to finish.  But it was hilarious.

And the Senior who did their contraband check should have been out there with them!

Ned

#47
Quote from: JCJ on September 07, 2009, 03:15:44 PM
Cadet encampment - a male cadet is caught texting on cell phone (contraband).  A review of the text messages on the confiscated phone reveals:(. . . )

Not to be too much of a wet blanket here, but it is normally a crime to intercept anyone's phone conversations and text messages without permission.

It's one thing to collect a cadet's cell phone in accordance with published rules that forbid cell phones for cadets at a CAP activity, but it's quite another thing to go into the phone and read private messages between the cadet and a third party.

I doubt anyone is going to jail under these circumstances, but you've pretty well solved the problem when you collected the phone for safekeeping.  So why press your luck and pry into another person's personal and private information?

Ned Lee
Former Legal Officer

Fifinella

Not meaning to derail this thread, but it is not appropriate to use the honor code to enforce regulations, i.e., to force someone to self-incriminate.
Judy LaValley, Maj, CAP
Asst. DCP, LAWG
SWR-LA-001
GRW #2753

ol'fido

Quote from: PHall on September 08, 2009, 02:24:11 AM
Quote from: JCJ on September 07, 2009, 03:15:44 PM
Cadet encampment - a male cadet is caught texting on cell phone (contraband).  A review of the text messages on the confiscated phone reveals:

"I love u ur so hot Jenny" (name changed to protect the guilty)

Review of the cadet roster reveals that there indeed is a cadet Jenny (last name) at encampment.  She is summoned to the command post:

Encampment Director of Cadet Training:  "Cadet, what is the cadet honor code?"

Cadet Jenny:  "Sir we will not lie, cheat, steal nor tolerate those who do sir!"

Encampment Director of Cadet Training:  "Cadet, do you have a cell phone?"

Cadet Jenny:  "uh, uh, uh, ..."

I think they both marched off some tours & got to finish.  But it was hilarious.

And the Senior who did their contraband check should have been out there with them!

We don't do pat downs or strip searches at inprocessing so unless it's bigger than a bread box a cadet can sneak any pocket size item of contraband in. However, the greatest majority do voluntarily surrender those items.
Lt. Col. Randy L. Mitchell
Historian, Group 1, IL-006

C/MSgt Lunsford

#50
I have a few:

About 2 or 3 nights into our Encampment (WV Wing Encampment at Camp Dawson - Kingswood, WV) I and a fellow Cadet from Foxtrot was on CQ patrolling our bunker, Full Metal Jacket Style. Anyway, we came across one of the Restrooms and went inside. There we found a red light coming from one of the Stalls. Heres the Horrible Disgusting part. It was an C/Amn doing some "Jurking Off". Yes, disgusting, I know. But we "Coughed" our presence and he got himself back to his bunk.

Next one was about 4 days into our "Fun filled" week. We had just got back from Chow and we were heading back to the Firing Range to shoot some .22's. All of a sudden we were visited by 2 V22 Ospreys and they landed on the Runway. After we got to take a look at them, they did some exciting High Speed Fly By's.

That was my first Encampment, very exciting one. Always a good experience. 

Wright Brothers #13915

Cadet Dan

Here's a few from my most recent encampment.
So I am walking with the First Sergeant to chow along with several other staff members, and a group of 2 ga's walks by us. They both salute the First Sergeant and greet her with a " Good afternoon ma'am " She stops spins around and holds up her insignia and says " Im not an Officer! I work for a living!!" we got a few laughs out of that one.

Im sure this has happened to everyone at least once on staff. A group of staff members are resting in the lounge and the majority of them have drifted off to sleep. A flight commander walks in, and in reaction the one person awake yells " room tench hut! " Everyone hastily wakes up and comes to attention, disoriented and confused.

As one of the only ways staff could get their sanity back once the GA's had gone to bed was to play cards. So after the fifth day we all agreed to joke around. We dicided to ( 100% jokingly ) play strip poker. Which was not even so. We layed out our covers, strew shoes and socks around and the like. But when a Senior Member walked down the hallway we all hastily cleaned up. So for the rest of encampment whenever we passed eachother we would say " uh oh...shes taking her cover off..." " there goes the Curry ribbon..." ( please remember that this was in a 100% joking fasion and no such actual activity occoured )

Chief2009

#52
My last encampment I was cadet support staff. We had two day rooms in two different barrak at Volk Field, Admin was above Comm was on the bottom. There was a planter with a bench on it in between the two levels. If you were coming out of Admin and someone was sitting on the bench, you couldn't see them until you were right there.

Anyway, I was coming out of Admin and saw the Deputy Commandant of Cadets standing by the door to Comm. I go down the stairs, salute her, and go into Comm. Then I hear "Chief, get back here!" I turn around and there is the Commandant of Cadets, a Major and the Wing Deputy Commander, a Lt Col!

So she starts chewing me out, the Maj and the Col are both silent until she asks me why I didn't salute the Col. I replied truthfully, "I didn't see him, ma'am." At this the Maj starts laughing at me and the Col gets a huge smile on his face. The Col interrupts the the Deputy Commandant saying it was okay, "I had my cloaking device on." Once again the Major starts laughing and I had to bite my lip to keep from laughing. I was dismissed and went back to my job.

This became a running joke between the Lt. Col and I. He was on my review board for NBB and right after I reported to the board he asked me "Can you see me now?" Later I got a letter from him, it was a blank sheet of paper with the exception of a little handwriting: "Hope you like this autographed picture!"

If I've guessed right, Eclipse might have been present when this occurred.

DN
"To some the sky is the limit. To others it is home" — Unknown
Dan Nelson, 1st Lt, CAP
Deputy Commander for Cadets
Illinois Valley Composite Squadron GLR-IL-284

ol'fido

No. That was Redfox24(the Major) and the (at the time) Wing CV still wears a camo T-shirt to the senior cookout that says, "Can you see me now?"
Lt. Col. Randy L. Mitchell
Historian, Group 1, IL-006

Chief2009

Thanks for the clarification!

DN
"To some the sky is the limit. To others it is home" — Unknown
Dan Nelson, 1st Lt, CAP
Deputy Commander for Cadets
Illinois Valley Composite Squadron GLR-IL-284

JoeTomasone

Quote from: Chief2009 on October 18, 2009, 10:49:47 PM
Then I hear "Chief, get back here!"

So she starts chewing me out, the Maj and the Col are both silent until she asks me why I didn't salute the Col.



Being the smart-butt that I can be, I would have countered with, "Why did you address me as Chief?"   >:D


(CAPP 151 requires SMs to address Cadets as "Cadet".)


ol'fido

He wanted to continue living. You have to know her to understand.
Lt. Col. Randy L. Mitchell
Historian, Group 1, IL-006

Майор Хаткевич

#57
My second to last encampment there was a funny situation with some goldbond. I'm pretty sure Eclipse would hunt me down and tear my head off if I retold the story. Although the Senior staff did go on a roll with the jokes right afterward.

A few that I can tell:

This was in '07, and my C/XO and a support staffer were working on a class. the C/XO tried to find an image to add to a powerpoint, but "salude.jpg" wasn't it. It was however, an in-your-face young female model holding a glass of champagne with her thong cover ass cheeks. For the rest of encampment whenever we would pass the support staffer or each other we would say salude and start cracking up. This also teaches you to take your own laptop not your fathers to encampment.

Another incident was at the SAMT facility, and the instructor having just returned from Iraq. During his lesson on the M-16 things like this were heard:
"Johnny Jihad", "What makes the grass grow? Blood Blood Blood", "Aghhhhh!", "What is the buttstock used for? Bashing Brains, Petty Officer!". Again, in his defense, he just came back from a tour of duty.

One year a flight seemed to have the most injury prone cadets. I believe it was alpha flight, and they went from 12-14 cadets down to 6 or 7. Almost all of the 'injuries' came from this one flight.

In 06, a Senior who had around 15 encampments under his belt as a cadet and a senior showed the executive staff how to tape down bunks with duct-tape to make them indestructible. Having done this to all executive bunks, someone had a bright idea of showcasing these bunks to two Navy Recruit Division Commanders. Upon first look they were quite impressed at the quality of the bunk, but when one of the RDCs tried moving the blanket to look at the sheet, the whole getup - mattress included lifted from the bed. Expecting to be struck down by lighting at this point, both surprised us by laughing and saying that while its something they haven't seen before and think is a 'good' idea, they wouldn't let their recruits get away with it.

RicL

#58
Oh, I've seen some real *facepalm* scenarios at the two encampments that I served as senior staff for. Actually, all of these happened at the same encampment.

1) Coming out of the medical office (as med oic) and finding a cadet sitting on the wood steps (that were built during vietnam) with a can of shoe polish blazing away with flames licking the railing. Cadet saw nothing wrong with the fact that he (a) had a lighter with which to light the shoe polish (b) was very close to burning down my med office (c) was in blues with patent leather shoes that didn't require polishing to begin with.

2) Having a cadet (who also happened to be AFJROTC) purchase a miltary smoke grenade from an active duty enlisted USAF member that was tasked with driving bus for us. Ended up getting 2b'ed on the spot, escorted from base by MP's who made him wait at the gate for his parents and also followed up with a call to his AFJROTC chain of command. The icing on the cake was that he had attempted to buy a fragmentation grenade but the enlisted USAF member "didn't have any".

3) Having one of the only two working inbound/outbound telephones at the encampment, sitting at your desk in the medical office and getting a call from the wing alerting officer inquiring as to whether we have sufficient staffing for an ELT activation mission. Gee, I hope so.. We've been training GTM, GTL, MRO, and a myriad of other qual's for days now, have close to 100 SM's and 380 cadets on base.. and getting the response "Oh, the encampment's going on isn't it".

JoeTomasone

#59
Quote from: RicL on October 31, 2009, 04:50:12 AM
2) Having a cadet (who also happened to be AFJROTC) purchase a miltary smoke grenade from an active duty enlisted USAF member that was tasked with driving bus for us. Ended up getting 2b'ed on the spot,

What happened to the USAF guy who sold it?????