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General Discussion => Membership => Topic started by: usafcap1 on August 28, 2012, 05:45:32 AM

Title: From cadet to SM question??/ Crossing over to the dark side.
Post by: usafcap1 on August 28, 2012, 05:45:32 AM
Would a cadet who is going to the dark side have to provide FBI fingerprint cards?
Title: Re: From cadet to SM question??/ Crossing over to the dark side.
Post by: SarDragon on August 28, 2012, 05:50:16 AM
Almost all 21+ yo prospective members must submit fingerprint cards with their membership application (CAPF 12). This is certainly true for anyone who will be participating on a regular basis.

In a word - yes.
Title: Re: From cadet to SM question??/ Crossing over to the dark side.
Post by: usafcap1 on August 28, 2012, 05:58:40 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on August 28, 2012, 05:50:16 AM
Almost all 21+ yo prospective members must submit fingerprint cards with their membership application (CAPF 12). This is certainly true for anyone who will be participating on a regular basis.

In a word - yes.

What if that person is not 21 just yet?
Title: Re: From cadet to SM question??/ Crossing over to the dark side.
Post by: a2capt on August 28, 2012, 06:00:02 AM
Then you're not turning SM ... just yet.
Title: Re: From cadet to SM question??/ Crossing over to the dark side.
Post by: SarDragon on August 28, 2012, 06:05:37 AM
Let me rephrase that - almost all prospective senior members, regardless of age, must submit fingerprint cards with their membership application (CAPF 12).
Title: Re: From cadet to SM question??/ Crossing over to the dark side.
Post by: Lord of the North on August 28, 2012, 06:07:15 AM
From CAPR 39-2:
3-7. Procedures for Cadets Transferring to Senior Status. After reaching age 18, cadets desiring to transfer to senior member status may do so by simply forwarding a CAPF 12 and a FBI fingerprint card to National Headquarters (a copy of the CAPF 12 should also be forwarded to the wing headquarters). The form will be annotated across the top as follows: "Cadet to Senior - No Charge." When the application is received by National Headquarters, the cadet will be transferred to senior member status for the duration of his or her current membership year, after which time the member will be billed as a senior membership renewal. NOTE 1: If the cadet's membership is due for renewal at approximately the same time the application for senior membership is made (within 2 months), than the applicant should include new senior membership dues with the application to ensure continuous service. (See attachment 1 and the chart posted online at www.capmembers.com/dues (http://www.capmembers.com/dues) for actual dues amount required.) In this case, wing dues will be forwarded directly to the wing. NOTE 2: Within two months of their 21st birthday, cadets will receive an invitation to transfer to senior membership along with a CAPF 12 and fingerprint card. Cadets who have not transferred to senior member status prior to their 21st birthday, will have their membership transferred to patron status for the duration of the member year or until they complete the transfer to senior member.
Title: Re: From cadet to SM question??/ Crossing over to the dark side.
Post by: ßτε on August 28, 2012, 06:20:41 AM
Quote from: usafcap1 on August 28, 2012, 05:45:32 AM
Would a cadet who is going to the dark side have to provide FBI fingerprint cards?
Short answer: Yes, unless you are becoming a Patron/Reserve member.
Title: Re: From cadet to SM question??/ Crossing over to the dark side.
Post by: ßτε on August 28, 2012, 06:22:42 AM
Quote from: a2capt on August 28, 2012, 06:00:02 AM
Then you're not turning SM ... just yet.
What does this mean? A cadet can turn SM any time from their 18th birthday through the 21st birthday.
Title: Re: From cadet to SM question??/ Crossing over to the dark side.
Post by: usafcap1 on August 28, 2012, 07:11:21 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on August 28, 2012, 06:05:37 AM
Let me rephrase that - almost all prospective senior members, regardless of age, must submit fingerprint cards with their membership application (CAPF 12).
Sorry I miss that. Thank you
Title: Re: From cadet to SM question??/ Crossing over to the dark side.
Post by: a2capt on August 28, 2012, 02:17:33 PM
The (short) context was based on the premise that turning 21 was when the transformation was to take place. ...that's what it meant.
Title: Re: From cadet to SM question??/ Crossing over to the dark side.
Post by: Garibaldi on August 28, 2012, 03:11:25 PM
Don't forget that at 17 you have to take Cadet Protection, which you would have to do anyway as a Senior.
Title: Re: From cadet to SM question??/ Crossing over to the dark side.
Post by: EMT-83 on August 28, 2012, 03:27:08 PM
Actually, you have to take CPPT as a cadet within six months after turning 18. You are able to take it at age 17.
Title: Re: From cadet to SM question??/ Crossing over to the dark side.
Post by: Garibaldi on August 28, 2012, 03:35:52 PM
Quote from: EMT-83 on August 28, 2012, 03:27:08 PM
Actually, you have to take CPPT as a cadet within six months after turning 18. You are able to take it at age 17.

Somehow I got it in my head that it was 17. We had a bunch of cadets who recently turned 18 in my unit and they all have to take it now.
Title: Re: From cadet to SM question??/ Crossing over to the dark side.
Post by: EMT-83 on August 28, 2012, 03:46:23 PM
It was changed last year, so 17 year-olds could take it. It changed the 6 month window to an 18 month window.
Title: Re: From cadet to SM question??/ Crossing over to the dark side.
Post by: MSG Mac on August 28, 2012, 06:49:19 PM
If you're an 18 year old cadet without CPPT, you cannot test or advance. Take the course before your 18th birthday.