The AF style Flight Jacket

[alpha06]

WHat is the rule about wearing the AF style flight jacket withthe CAP blues or the flight suit?

[Mac]

We are not allowed to wear the AF style leather flight jacker with any AF style uniform.

9. The Air Force brown leather flight jacket is NOT authorized with this or any Air Force style uniform. The MA-1 flight jacket or the CWU-45/P or CWU-36/P Nomex flight jackets may be worn.

And it may only be worn with the green flight suit, not the blues uniform.

[Major_Chuck]

Not authorized for Air Force style uniforms but nothing prohibiting wear with the Aviator Uniform combinations.

[capchiro]

Or any other CAP distinctive uniform for that matter

[A1Steaksauce]

What about the Blue USAF flight jacket?

[Psicorp]

The black leather flight jacket is authorized with the aviator shirt uniform combination.  I had originally thought it was also authorized with the CAP flightsuit as well, but apparently that isn't true.

[shorning]

What about the Blue USAF flight jacket?

Which jacket are you talking about?  The Air Force doesn't have a blue flight jacket.  There is a leather one (not authorized for CAP) and a Nomex sage green one (not authorized with blues).  Have you checked M39-1?

[Eclipse]

If you wear the blue nomex flight suit, either currnet version, (until 2009), or recently approved darker-blue nomex, you are supposed to wear a blue
flight jacket.

No flight gear is approved for wear over any combination of service dress (blues).

[A1Steaksauce]

Sorry, it's not really a flight jacket. It's descibed on the tag as, "Jacket, Man's: Lightweight with removable liner". It's a navy blue zipper jacket that some people refer to as a flight jacket and is usually worn by cadet officers over their light blue shirt.

[SarDragon]

Sorry, it's not really a flight jacket. It's descibed on the tag as, "Jacket, Man's: Lightweight with removable liner". It's a navy blue zipper jacket that some people refer to as a flight jacket and is usually worn by cadet officers over their light blue shirt.

Not exactly true. There is a blue flight jacket available from commercial vendors, in Nomex. There also used to be two different nylon jackets available from CAPMart, but it seems Vanguard doesn't carry them.

[Eclipse]

Sorry, it's not really a flight jacket. It's descibed on the tag as, "Jacket, Man's: Lightweight with removable liner". It's a navy blue zipper jacket that some people refer to as a flight jacket and is usually worn by cadet officers over their light blue shirt.

That is the only jacket (other than the trench coat) approved for wear over blues, and is a HUGE non-no over a flight suit, or any other uniform parts.

And contrary to semi-popular belief, simply removing the grade insignia
does not make it a civilian jacket.

[shorning]

And contrary to semi-popular belief, simply removing the grade insignia
does not make it a civilian jacket.

Funny, I'd wear mine that way.  The Air Force doesn't care as long as there is no insignia.

[SarDragon]

And contrary to semi-popular belief, simply removing the grade insignia
does not make it a civilian jacket.

Funny, I'd wear mine that way.  The Air Force doesn't care as long as there is no insignia.

Nor did the Navy about their lightweight jacket. Still have mine in my closet, and wear it with my aviator shirt and grey slacks. Unlike many other uniform items, there are no other bits and pieces that identify these jackets as uniform items.

[Al Sayre]

Last time I looked, London Fog made identical ones to both the Navy Black and the Air Force Blue for the civilian market...

[MIKE]

I think this is Eclipse's reference:

Section C-Appearance 11. b. You may wear only authorized uniform combinations; you may not mix uniform items or wear distinctive uniform items with civilian clothes. (Distinctive uniform items are those items that are unique to the uniform. They include grade insignia, ribbons, cap devices, and buttons with Civil Air Patrol coat of
arms).

[davedove]

From CAPM 39-1, 4-1:

Appropriate civilian outerwear is authorized with these combinations including the light blue windbreaker with the CAP seal embroidered on the right breast and the dark blue flight jacket.

So there is a dark blue flight jacket, but as has been stated, it is civilian wear and not authorized with any of the AF style uniforms.

[Eclipse]

As per usual, many of us will play fast and loose with the regs and/or do whatever we want, despite them.

Just be aware that the mere fact that no one says anything to your face, doesn't mean that the conduct and actions aren't noticed by everyone, including the USAF people when they are around.

[shorning]

As per usual, many of us will play fast and loose with the regs and/or do whatever we want, despite them.

Just be aware that the mere fact that no one says anything to your face, doesn't mean that the conduct and actions aren't noticed by everyone, including the USAF people when they are around.

Fast and loose with the regs?  Nothing I said falls outside the regs.  It just doesn't fit your paradigm.  From what I've seen throughout your posts, you have a slightly idealistic view of CAP.  You don't have to like it, but you have to realize that your view of the world isn't the only correct one.