National Commander Suspended

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Anyone here anything new on Testing-gate? Is the National Board moving up the start of the meeting to make a ruling?  And someone did mention that the letter MG Pindea sent did violate the ruling of the BoG so could that work against him? 

[FARRIER]

I don't think this reflects on CAP as an organization, but rather to the corporate structure. So to date MG Pineda has not been found guilty, but only that probable cause exists.

But, his latest e-mail or actions didn't help his case any way.

[JC004]

I don't think this reflects on CAP as an organization, but rather to the corporate structure. So to date MG Pineda has not been found guilty, but only that probable cause exists.

But, his latest e-mail or actions didn't help his case any way.

I don't think it helped either.

13 pages, 3257 views and counting.  Wow.

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I say by tomorrow we'll have a new National Commander one way or another.

[ELTHunter]

I say by tomorrow we'll have a new National Commander one way or another.

For the sake of CAP that would be the best thing that could happen.  Like ripping off the tape, a little pain involved but it's quick and then it's over.

[JC004]

I say by tomorrow we'll have a new National Commander one way or another.

and I will be accepting resumes today for folks who wish to apply for my staff, or to replace wing commanders.  Line starts over there -->  and bring me snacks.

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I say by tomorrow we'll have a new National Commander one way or another.

For the sake of CAP that would be the best thing that could happen.  Like ripping off the tape, a little pain involved but it's quick and then it's over.

Yup quick and easier than anything else.

[West_Coast_Guy]

I don't think this reflects on CAP as an organization, but rather to the corporate structure. So to date MG Pineda has not been found guilty, but only that probable cause exists.

But, his latest e-mail or actions didn't help his case any way.

The thing that gets me is, how can a guy get through a couple of years as National CC without knowing that federal law gives the BoG absolute power over CAP? It took me, a mere 1LT, what, less than an hour to find that information on the Web?

It sounds like the National Legal Officer straightened him out, however.

[Psicorp]

Man, 225 posts in about 34 hrs. WoW!!

To be honest, I wish more people would voice their piece.  225 is great... where are the rest of the supposed 60,000?   

I don't think there can be an organization of our size and structure without having problems of this magnitude at least once.  Whether or not the BoG actually had the authority to suspend the National Commander is rather a mute point; some part of our structure should have that  authority and the BoG is best suited for it, and apparently the Maj Gen's legal team agrees.

However this gets resolved (and I have no doubts that it will get resolved) this fiasco (is there a better word?) by no means affects nor should detract from the work that is done by Wings, Groups, and Units.   Just look at the other news headlines on National's site:  "S. Dakota Wing helps monitor forest fire", "Hiker found in good condition after search involving Colo. Wing", Nebraska Wing member receives Spaatz award", "Alaska Wing participates in emergency medic training", and "S. Dakota aircrew responds to AFB call for help".   

We're doing great things and we have some really good people in key positions and a process that, while it takes time, does work.    Stuff like this does make life interesting, doesn't it?   

[West_Coast_Guy]

I say by tomorrow we'll have a new National Commander one way or another.

and I will be accepting resumes today for folks who wish to apply for my staff, or to replace wing commanders.  Line starts over there -->  and bring me snacks.

I've always wondered about the motives of someone who would WANT that job. Now I know: it's snacks! 

[JC004]

I say by tomorrow we'll have a new National Commander one way or another.

and I will be accepting resumes today for folks who wish to apply for my staff, or to replace wing commanders.  Line starts over there -->  and bring me snacks.

I've always wondered about the motives of someone who would WANT that job. Now I know: it's snacks! 

you can't eat stars, but when you have arbitrary promoting powers, people will feed you

[SeattleSarge]

Another story in this morning's Miami Herald.  Again, very brief.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/broward/story/196071.html

I think we're all thinking the same thing regarding local inquiries;

1. No, it's not impacting local readiness or operations.

2. Here is the number for National HQ Public Affairs.

-Seattle Sarge

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Ok, so it's getting out there.  Thougth it wouldn't take this long.  So new question, how long till it makes CNN?

[genejackson]

Good morning all.   New guy here who has been following all of this very closely and I would love to follow the video stream if someone would kindly post the link.   Thought I'd go ahead and sign up as opposed to lurking as a guest.

I am already fielding all manner of questions from my members and even some parents over all of this goings on with TP and am certainly very interested in seeing if/who walks out of the opening session.

Gene Jackson
Group I CC
VAWG

ps.. I was wondering why I kept getting all these snacks on my desk at the airport

[JC004]

Good morning all.   New guy here who has been following all of this very closely and I would love to follow the video stream if someone would kindly post the link.   Thought I'd go ahead and sign up as opposed to lurking as a guest.

I am already fielding all manner of questions from my members and even some parents over all of this goings on with TP and am certainly very interested in seeing if/who walks out of the opening session.

Gene Jackson
Group I CC
VAWG

ps.. I was wondering why I kept getting all these snacks on my desk at the airport

Welcome.  Video info for now:

http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=2339.msg47177#msg47177

[ES forever!]

On a positive note, Gen Courter is one of the finest we have ever had in a management leadership role, she is savvy and smart, and we should all get behind her and support any and all changes she makes to create a sense of duty and honor this organization should have.

What are each of you willing to give to her to start a fresh and not just talk about bad stuff but live for what we are trained to do?

She comes from the corporate culture and world, I believe we have turned  a corner in the legacy of CAP.

just my thoughts... and my first post

[genejackson]

Thanks, JC004.   I saw that link but it was only showing something about Oshkosh.  I guess time to be more patient and let them update the video link.  /gene

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On a positive note, Gen Courter is one of the finest we have ever had in a management leadership role, she is savvy and smart, and we should all get behind her and support any and all changes she makes to create a sense of duty and honor this organization should have.

What are each of you willing to give to her to start a fresh and not just talk about bad stuff but live for what we are trained to do?

She comes from the corporate culture and world, I believe we have turned  a corner in the legacy of CAP.

just my thoughts... and my first post

Right now she's just acting CC hopefully they'll make it official and remove TP.

[SeattleSarge]

It is important, through this process, that our members, media, and the public realize our organization is still performing our mission....

http://www.wmcstations.com/Global/story.asp?S=6901673

We're still training, we're still flying, we're still doing the work.

-SeattleSarge

[JC004]

On a positive note, Gen Courter is one of the finest we have ever had in a management leadership role, she is savvy and smart, and we should all get behind her and support any and all changes she makes to create a sense of duty and honor this organization should have.

What are each of you willing to give to her to start a fresh and not just talk about bad stuff but live for what we are trained to do?

She comes from the corporate culture and world, I believe we have turned  a corner in the legacy of CAP.

just my thoughts... and my first post

Right now she's just acting CC hopefully they'll make it official and remove TP.

Courter '08 '07