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xray328
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« on: April 10, 2017, 05:27:56 PM »

After looking at the 39-1 I still have questions about the NRA badge placement.  Does anyone know the proper place on both the male and female cadet service jacket (new and old style) and the short sleeve blues shirt?  I don't see it in attachment 4 of the 39-1 either.

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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2017, 05:42:28 PM »

Just answered this for one of mine this AM, and yes, it's not even mentioned in Attachment 4.


Male

Service Coat:

CAPM 39-1 Page 34:
http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/M391_E6F33EAAEC28A.pdf
"4.1.5.4.4.2. CAP Service, Specialty Track Badges, Model Rocketry and NRA Marksmanship Badges (refer to Attachment 4). Wear of these badges is optional. Service badges will only be worn by officers and NCOs. Model rocketry and NRA Marksmanship Badges will only be worn by cadets. The total number of badges worn will not exceed four, to include the above-mentioned aviation and occupational badges. The first of these badges will be on the wearer’s left 1 ˝ inch below top of welt pocket and centered. The second badge will be worn on the wearer’s right 1 ˝ inch below the nametag. If authorized, center a third badge ˝ inch above the nametag. CAP service badges, if worn, must be metal, are always worn on the left, and only one may be worn. The model rocketry badge is only worn on the left pocket. The NRA Marksmanship Badge is worn centered on the welt pocket; only one marksmanship badge may be worn. The National Commander’s Staff Badge will always be worn on the wearer’s right side. The CAP Senior Advisory Group, Command Council, National Board or National Executive will always be worn on the left side."

Shirt:

CAPM 39-1 Page 48-49:

"4.1.9.4.2.2. CAP Service, Specialty Track Badges, Model Rocketry and NRA Marksmanship Badges (refer to Attachment 4). Wear of these badges is optional. CAP service badges will only be worn by officers and NCOs. Model rocketry and NRA Marksmanship Badges will only be worn by cadets. The total number of badges worn will not exceed four, to include the abovementioned aviation and occupational badges. The first badge will be centered on the lower portion of the wearer’s left pocket, between the left and right edges and bottom of flap and pocket. The second badge will be worn in the corresponding location on the wearer’s right pocket. If a third badge is authorized, it will be centered ˝ inch above the nametag. CAP service badges, if worn, are always worn on the left, with only one being worn. Model rocketry badge will only be worn on the wearer’s left pocket. Marksmanship badge is worn centered on the top edge of the left pocket flap. Only one marksmanship badge may be worn. The National Commander’s Staff Badge will always be worn on the wearer’s right side. The CAP Senior Advisory Group, Command Council, National Board or National Executive Committee will always be worn on the left side."

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Female is potentially a lot more "complex" if they have a lot of other badges.

Service coat:

CAPM 39-1 Page 41 :

4.1.8.4.4.2. Specialty Track Badges, Model Rocketry and NRA
Marksmanship Badges (refer to Attachment 4). Wear of these badges is optional. The total number of
badges worn will not exceed four; to include the above-mentioned aviation and occupational badges. The
first badge will be centered on the wearer’s right, ˝ inch above the nametag and centered. The second
badge will be worn ˝ inch above the nametag, centered, and spaced ˝ inch apart from the first badge. If
the model rocketry badge or NRA Marksmanship Badge(s) is worn and other badges already worn over
the nametag, the model rocketry badge or NRA Marksmanship Badge will be worn on the wearer’s left, 1
˝ inches below the bottom of the ribbon bar. If no other badge(s) are worn over the nametag, the model
rocketry badge or NRA Marksmanship Badge is worn on the wearer’s right, ˝ inch above nametag
. Only
one marksmanship badge may be worn.


Shirt:

CAPM 39-1 Page 52-53:

"4.1.10.4.3.2. CAP Service, Specialty Track Badges, Model Rocketry and
NRA Marksmanship Badges (refer to Attachment 4). Wear of these badges is optional. CAP service
badges will only be worn by senior members. Model rocketry and NRA Marksmanship Badges will only
be worn by cadets. The total number of badges worn will not exceed four, to include the abovementioned
aviation and occupational badges. The first of these badges will be centered on the wearer’s
right, ˝ inch above the nametag. The second badge will be worn ˝ inch above the nametag, level with
and spaced ˝ inch to the right of the first badge so that both are aligned evenly across the nametag. If the
model rocketry and/or NRA Marksmanship Badge(s) is worn and other badges are already worn over the
nametag, the model rocketry badge will only be worn on the wearer’s left, 1 ˝ inches below the top of the
welt pocket and the NRA Marksmanship Badge will be centered on the welt pocket. If no other badge(s)
are worn over the nametag, the model rocketry badge or NRA Marksmanship Badge is worn on the
wearer’s right, ˝ inch above nametag.
Only one marksmanship badge will be worn. CAP service
badges, if worn, must be metal. If no specialty track badges are worn, center CAP service badge ˝ inch
above nametag. If a CAP service badge is worn, wear the second badge to the wearer’s right, and wear
the CAP service badge closest to the collar. If a CAP service badge is worn with a second badge in this
position, move the second badge to the wearer’s right, and wear the CAP service badge closest to the right
lapel. Exceptionally, the National Commander’s Staff Badge will always be worn to the right of a second
badge. The CAP Senior Advisory Group, Command Council, National Board or National Executive
Committee badges will always be worn closest to the collar. "


Of course there is no "welt pocket" on the female shirt, so there you go.
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xray328
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2017, 06:04:23 PM »

Thank you sir


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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2017, 07:12:17 PM »

Can someone please tell me how to enter NRA qualification levels in EServices?
Thanks.
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2017, 08:46:34 PM »

It doesn't.

It's awarded at the squadron only, no mention in eServices.
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2017, 08:51:23 PM »

Thank you.
Is there any way in eServices to add certificates like that?
Is there a random stuff file?
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2017, 10:14:12 PM »

Not right now.
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2017, 11:16:40 PM »

The question is clearly answered in CAPR 39-2 states:  "The member’s unit of assignment maintains personnel records. Personnel files maintained locally may be traditional paper files or electronic files created at the unit. Normally, the unit personnel officer is responsible for this duty; however, this duty may be delegated to the unit administrative officer, or in the case of active member records, to the professional development officer, at the discretion of the unit commander. Many achievements/training are recorded in the member’s online membership record available for review through the eServices section of the CAP website. Units may use this information to
supplement the information maintained in the local file at the unit level. At this time, the eServices online record cannot be used as the only personnel file since all information concerning the member is not currently tracked online. Those items recorded in eServices are not required to be entered in the local personnel file. Any items not recorded in eServices or additional information pertaining to the member's service and performance that should be retained should be made a part of the local personnel records. Regardless of who maintains the personnel file, the professional development officer remains responsible for recording professional development training as prescribed in CAPR 50-17. Note: CAPF 25, Personnel Data Card, which is now obsolete and no longer available may be filed with the CAPF 45 for active members who were in the program prior to development of the Form 45. Previous editions of CAPF 45 may also continue to be used. Do not transcribe information from the older CAPFs 45/45a or 45b just for the sake of updating the newer CAPF45. Personnel files should be protected and remain in the custody of CAP at all times. Members should be granted regular access to their records at reasonable times during normal unit meetings, in addition to such other times as may be agreed to between the member and the record’s custodian."  [emphasis added]
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2017, 09:13:26 PM »

The question is clearly answered in CAPR 39-2 states:  "The member’s unit of assignment maintains personnel records. Personnel files maintained locally may be traditional paper files or electronic files created at the unit. Normally, the unit personnel officer is responsible for this duty; however, this duty may be delegated to the unit administrative officer, or in the case of active member records, to the professional development officer, at the discretion of the unit commander. Many achievements/training are recorded in the member’s online membership record available for review through the eServices section of the CAP website. Units may use this information to
supplement the information maintained in the local file at the unit level. At this time, the eServices online record cannot be used as the only personnel file since all information concerning the member is not currently tracked online. Those items recorded in eServices are not required to be entered in the local personnel file. Any items not recorded in eServices or additional information pertaining to the member's service and performance that should be retained should be made a part of the local personnel records. Regardless of who maintains the personnel file, the professional development officer remains responsible for recording professional development training as prescribed in CAPR 50-17. Note: CAPF 25, Personnel Data Card, which is now obsolete and no longer available may be filed with the CAPF 45 for active members who were in the program prior to development of the Form 45. Previous editions of CAPF 45 may also continue to be used. Do not transcribe information from the older CAPFs 45/45a or 45b just for the sake of updating the newer CAPF45. Personnel files should be protected and remain in the custody of CAP at all times. Members should be granted regular access to their records at reasonable times during normal unit meetings, in addition to such other times as may be agreed to between the member and the record’s custodian."  [emphasis added]

Thank you very much.
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