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ProdigalJim
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« on: March 31, 2017, 10:59:16 PM »

OK, uniform nerds, I need you...

According to our trusty 39-1, when you are a GRADUATED Commander and you're setting up your Mess Dress, "lower the insignia on the wearer’s right side to an appropriate point aligned with a lower point of the miniature medals so that it is evident that the pin is not for a current assignment, between the top shoulder seam and top button of the coat and midway between the lapel and arm seam."

Sounds pretty approximate to me.

I followed the directions and this is what it looks like. It looks kinda...off...somehow?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41398383@N07/33765633845/in/dateposted-public/
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2017, 11:32:14 PM »

Looks OK - I think it only looks "off" because the right breast isn't straight.

I can't imagine anyone will take issue, it's clearly lower then the regular badges.
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2017, 11:53:13 PM »

OK, uniform nerds, I need you...

According to our trusty 39-1, when you are a GRADUATED Commander and you're setting up your Mess Dress, "lower the insignia on the wearer’s right side to an appropriate point aligned with a lower point of the miniature medals so that it is evident that the pin is not for a current assignment, between the top shoulder seam and top button of the coat and midway between the lapel and arm seam."

Sounds pretty approximate to me.

I followed the directions and this is what it looks like. It looks kinda...off...somehow?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41398383@N07/33765633845/in/dateposted-public/
Everything on the Mess Dress is approximate.
Move it to where it looks "right".

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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2017, 02:39:20 PM »

Goes lower. :)

I have to actually move mine up. And on my ABUs, too, darn it. :)
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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2017, 11:21:15 PM »

Of course, the best way to put everything on is while you're wearing the jacket. Things may look good on the hanger, but when you put it on, everything will tilt when it's supposed to be level. Put the medals on while you're wearing it, then put the rest on. That way, you have a level reference point.
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2017, 01:23:38 AM »

Of course, the best way to put everything on is while you're wearing the jacket. Things may look good on the hanger, but when you put it on, everything will tilt when it's supposed to be level. Put the medals on while you're wearing it, then put the rest on. That way, you have a level reference point.

A second person and a 6 inch level are invaluable for this.
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2017, 07:58:28 PM »

Of course, the best way to put everything on is while you're wearing the jacket. Things may look good on the hanger, but when you put it on, everything will tilt when it's supposed to be level. Put the medals on while you're wearing it, then put the rest on. That way, you have a level reference point.

A second person and a 6 inch level are invaluable for this.

^^What he said as well as what Lordmonor said...it's all approximate on the Mess Dress (with the exception of the Hub Cap Crest).
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Ed DeSocio
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2017, 12:00:46 PM »

Looks great, Jim!  Is that a meritorious service medal that I see?  Congratulations! :clap:
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2017, 10:38:56 PM »

I wonder why CAP didn't just use the same language in AFI 36-2903. In the Air Force, current commanders wear the Command Insignia Pin "adjacent to top of medals", while graduated commanders wear it "adjacent to bottom row of medals." I think the position used by the Air Force makes it less likely for someone to confuse a current versus a graduated commander. CAP could've done the same in CAPM 39-1.
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