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bd5av8r
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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2017, 05:10:13 PM »

Hey, they got some sweet, sweet dark blue nametapes. No ultramarine for high fashion.

Sweet blueberry pie, LOL!! :)


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SarDragon
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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2017, 05:34:16 PM »

I wonder how much longer they'll be allowed to continue making product.  I wouldn't be surprised if the big V calls them out.

It's not Vanguard's intellectual property, it belongs to CAP. CAP would be the one to initiate any C&D action. Vanguard merely holds the license to manufacture.
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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2017, 05:39:49 PM »

Since the IP is provided via a Public Law, and not Copyright, are there even any rights to enforce outside the US?

It would probably have to be inside a trade agreement somewhere separate from any world-wide recognition of "copyright".
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bd5av8r
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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2017, 06:22:28 PM »

Still, Iconix Brand Group has offices in Manhattan, New York City.

Why are people here talking about "an American company suing a company in the Pac Rim."

Where is the office of Iconix Brand Group?

Although I do not think it would matter. As Eclipse pointed out, I think and others hinted, this would be a very difficult case to take to court.

Avirex is not selling these products in the US, so Vanguard's market is not affected. Vanguard would not sell these items in Japan, since there is no "Civil Air Patrol" in Japan aside from the squadron in Yokosuka, I believe. Again, no effect in Vanguard's market. It does not matter whether Avirex is American or in Asia.

I still want to know why people in here are saying "an American company sending a C&D to a company in the Pac Rim."
Actually they are selling these items in the US. A post earlier in the thread shows an item on display in a US mall. :)
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« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2017, 07:27:15 PM »

Here's the whole collection(s).

US: http://www.avirex-usa.com/collection/collection_airpatrolunit.html

JP: http://zozo.jp/shop/avirex/

Pretty hilarious...
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ProdigalJim
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« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2017, 08:23:31 PM »

Here's the whole collection(s).

US: http://www.avirex-usa.com/collection/collection_airpatrolunit.html

JP: http://zozo.jp/shop/avirex/

Pretty hilarious...

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« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2017, 10:36:45 PM »

I like the Earhart ribbon epaulets on that one soccer jersey.
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« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2017, 10:37:18 PM »

The collection is not complete! It is missing a Guayabera shirt and a blue Smurf suit.
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« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2017, 08:06:54 AM »

I see there are a number of discrepancies in the emblems, such as the stripes on the prop blades, and the colors on some of the patches are off.  Perhaps they think the stripes on the prop blades in the CAP seal is sufficient to be 'different' and immune from IP issues, but also noting they are careful to not use the actual colors in the real seal.

The CAP emblem was obsoleted year before last?  So it's open game?

On the jacket that has the Middle East Region patches on the back, they are using the obsolete NC Wing patch with the red border.  Not sure what's 'off' on the other wing patches.  Was the FL wing gator patch obsoleted also?
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« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2017, 09:55:33 AM »

I see there are a number of discrepancies in the emblems, such as the stripes on the prop blades, and the colors on some of the patches are off.  Perhaps they think the stripes on the prop blades in the CAP seal is sufficient to be 'different' and immune from IP issues, but also noting they are careful to not use the actual colors in the real seal.

The CAP emblem was obsoleted year before last?  So it's open game?

On the jacket that has the Middle East Region patches on the back, they are using the obsolete NC Wing patch with the red border.  Not sure what's 'off' on the other wing patches.  Was the FL wing gator patch obsoleted also?

Somehow I don't think "authenticity" was the goal here. Just a hunch...  :P
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« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2017, 10:39:53 AM »

I find it kind of disrespectful, but hey I will sell them my old bdus for that much cash! Sounds like an easy way to work up the money for ABU's

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« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2017, 12:06:33 PM »

Looked through my closet...and for the first time in years, some of my clothing items are now "trendy".   I will be "stylin" next time the wife and I go out for sushi.   :)
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swanson
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« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2017, 12:59:15 AM »

I'll bet the members in Okinawa, Yokota, and Misawa are feeling like rock stars right about now, heh.

Yes, the Civil Air Patrol clothing it is a big trend here in Japan with people wearing it out in town. If only we could recruit non-sofa cadets we would be set!  ;)
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Starbird
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« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2017, 08:37:51 AM »

Why why why why why.... just why!
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« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2017, 09:39:39 AM »

Why why why why why.... just why!
Because Japan.
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