CLC

[Jill]

I am planning on completing the CLC in the near future.  Can anyone give me an idea of how much time is generally needed to complete this course.

Thank You.

[Eclipse]

2 days, generally one weekend.

[Jill]

Thanks!

[Thonawit]

The online version is 8 weeks and take a couple of hours per week to complete

[UWONGO2]

My wing hosts a combined SLS/CLC that completes both in one weekend. It starts on a Friday evening and wraps up Sunday afternoon, allowing participants to complete both courses. I'm not sure what changes they made to fit both into one weekend, but I've been told NHQ signed off on it.

[DakRadz]

May I ask what wing? If need be, send me a PM!


Never mind, see below. Dave ruined me with blunt truth.
But really, he's probably right...

[SarDragon]

My wing hosts a combined SLS/CLC that completes both in one weekend. It starts on a Friday evening and wraps up Sunday afternoon, allowing participants to complete both courses. I'm not sure what changes they made to fit both into one weekend, but I've been told NHQ signed off on it.

If they are letting people complete both courses in one weekend, they aren't doing it right. Each course has about 12 hours of contact time, and trying to cram all that into two and a half days is unfair to the students and instructors. I took the two courses in consecutive weekends, and found that process lacking, too. There's too much info to assimilate, and not enough time between courses to get any practical use of what's been learned. Taking these courses shouldn't be just a matter of checking two boxes. Having that attitude is a waste of everyone's time.

[EMT-83]

What is it with folks constantly trying to re-invent the wheel?

[Eclipse]

My wing hosts a combined SLS/CLC that completes both in one weekend. It starts on a Friday evening and wraps up Sunday afternoon, allowing participants to complete both courses. I'm not sure what changes they made to fit both into one weekend, but I've been told NHQ signed off on it.

If they are letting people complete both courses in one weekend, they aren't doing it right. Each course has about 12 hours of contact time, and trying to cram all that into two and a half days is unfair to the students and instructors. I took the two courses in consecutive weekends, and found that process lacking, too. There's too much info to assimilate, and not enough time between courses to get any practical use of what's been learned. Taking these courses shouldn't be just a matter of checking two boxes. Having that attitude is a waste of everyone's time.

+1 - not to mention there's no time to let the lessons "bake-in" it's just somebody's "Good Idea", and they clearly don't understand the program or
the developmental intentions behind it.

Properly done, SLS should give a member new or better perspective and a stronger toolbox and CAP network.  That perspective should then
be baked for a year or two so that when they get to CLC, they bring new questions and experience to the table.

Also, from a programmatic perspective, you don't have a job or grade that fits CLC, either, if you're doing it at SLS-level.

Cramming like this just checks a box to the detriment of the member and the program, not to mention the credibility of CAP-PD.

Cramming just checks a box to the

[County]

The online version is 8 weeks and take a couple of hours per week to complete

Where might one find this online course?

[MSG Mac]

The online version is 8 weeks and take a couple of hours per week to complete

Where might one find this online course?

In E-services under online courses.

[Eclipse]

The online version is 8 weeks and take a couple of hours per week to complete

Where might one find this online course?

https://www.capmembers.com/cap_university/cap_elearning/cap-online-learning/

Requires Wing CC approval, and comprehensive dental.

[Ozzy]

I guess the question is, how long does/should it take to get approved? Would waiting over a month warrant sending an email to find out what's going on?

[SarDragon]

Why do you need to take the course online? Doing it that way loses much of the benefit of the course.

I just finished teaching SLS this afternoon, and will be doing a CLC next month, so there's some street cred here.

One of our lunchtime discussion topics was the networking and personal interaction going on in the class. Much of the class was people who had been members less than three years, and who hadn't had much interaction outside their own units. They really appreciated the opportunity ask questions and get outside opinions.

Very little of this is available online.

[Eclipse]

+1

With regards to your question, which approval is a month old pending?  NHQ or your wing?

They only run online CLC every so often, is there a cohort you're expecting to be a part of?

[Майор Хаткевич]

Just directed a TLC using the new materials this Saturday. Doing stuff face to face really makes a difference.

[Ozzy]

Why do you need to take the course online? Doing it that way loses much of the benefit of the course.

I just finished teaching SLS this afternoon, and will be doing a CLC next month, so there's some street cred here.

One of our lunchtime discussion topics was the networking and personal interaction going on in the class. Much of the class was people who had been members less than three years, and who hadn't had much interaction outside their own units. They really appreciated the opportunity ask questions and get outside opinions.

Very little of this is available online.

Simply, I am looking to continue my PD. The online course would allow me to do so easily and on my own time until wing decides to put out that they are doing a class. Does there really need to be another reason?

[Майор Хаткевич]

Why do you need to take the course online? Doing it that way loses much of the benefit of the course.

I just finished teaching SLS this afternoon, and will be doing a CLC next month, so there's some street cred here.

One of our lunchtime discussion topics was the networking and personal interaction going on in the class. Much of the class was people who had been members less than three years, and who hadn't had much interaction outside their own units. They really appreciated the opportunity ask questions and get outside opinions.

Very little of this is available online.

Simply, I am looking to continue my PD. The online course would allow me to do so easily and on my own time until wing decides to put out that they are doing a class. Does there really need to be another reason?

The slides and course materials are all online. Go ahead and read them ,but typically the online courses are reserved for extreme cases.

[FyreDragn]

I'm on the road quite a bit with work and have missed all of the local CLC courses because of this.  I would love to be able to take the CLC online and have submitted the application to take it online, but haven't heard a response in almost 2 months now.  I'm now a Deputy Commander and this course would really be helpful.

Should I email wing to find out my options?

[kwe1009]

I'm on the road quite a bit with work and have missed all of the local CLC courses because of this.  I would love to be able to take the CLC online and have submitted the application to take it online, but haven't heard a response in almost 2 months now.  I'm now a Deputy Commander and this course would really be helpful.

Should I email wing to find out my options?

Do you know if your request even made it to Wing?  The application goes through the chain of command so your squadron and Group (if you have one) must approve before it goes to Wing.