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« on: July 02, 2016, 12:13:12 AM »

http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/CAP_Vector_JulySept_2016_7FEC30A9BFB82.pdf

**Update** - Windows 10 Guidance on NHQ Field Issued Laptops: The Windows 10 Free Upgrade program will end
29 July 2016. Due to the Microsoft licensing terms, below is the guidance on upgrading systems to Windows 10.
Laptops distributed during FY 2011 thru 2013 may proceed with upgrading the systems to Windows 10. These
systems have Windows 7 Professional. However, we recommend that you do not upgrade all of those systems to
Windows 10 to avoid complete downtime due to unforeseen software and hardware incompatibilities that weren’t
discovered in our testing.

The last 2 year buys (FY2015, 2016) are not eligible for the Windows 10 Free Upgrade program due to the Windows
Enterprise license that these systems were imaged with. Windows Enterprise is not included in the upgrade program.

We will continue to monitor the Windows 10 upgrade promotion site
(https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-upgrade) for any changes that may occur to the program
that could allow free upgrades for Windows Enterprise licenses. A contingency plan is in place to purchase Windows
10 upgrade licenses by the end of the fiscal year, if no changes are made by Microsoft to allow free upgrades on
Windows Enterprise operating systems.
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2016, 06:01:38 PM »

You've gotta be kidding me...
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2016, 06:05:07 PM »

You've gotta be kidding me...

Love my Macs.  LOL
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2016, 07:54:08 PM »

You've gotta be kidding me...

Love my Macs.  LOL

This is for the laptops issued by National. They don't issue Macs. Neither does the Air Force...
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2016, 08:53:38 PM »

You've gotta be kidding me...

Love my Macs.  LOL

This is for the laptops issued by National. They don't issue Macs. Neither does the Air Force...

Thank god for that.  even though AMC is using Ipads for the digital flight bag and somehow Apple manage to be able to support the security encryption to be used as a govt phone now. 
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2016, 10:28:30 PM »

You've gotta be kidding me...

Love my Macs.  LOL

This is for the laptops issued by National. They don't issue Macs. Neither does the Air Force...

Thank god for that.  even though AMC is using Ipads for the digital flight bag and somehow Apple manage to be able to support the security encryption to be used as a govt phone now.

I have to use an iPad Air at work. I really, really miss my Toughbook.
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2016, 08:25:53 AM »

You've gotta be kidding me...

Love my Macs.  LOL

This is for the laptops issued by National. They don't issue Macs. Neither does the Air Force...

Thank god for that.  even though AMC is using Ipads for the digital flight bag and somehow Apple manage to be able to support the security encryption to be used as a govt phone now.

I have to use an iPad Air at work. I really, really miss my Toughbook.

AT&T was just beginning the transition when I left in 2011. Took some getting used to, using Citrix for Windows based programs and such.
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2016, 11:27:13 AM »

Just a reminder, if you're gonna do it, corporate, personal, or CAP, now's the time - Friday (29 July 2016) is the deadline.

As I type this I'm working on my last couple for a client (real men upgrade operating systems remotely), and knocked out the
last one in my personal stash a couple days ago (forgot my son still had a netbook).

I've probably done 50 machines at this point and had maybe 2-3 with any issue, generally a chicken and egg
issue where for some reason the NIC driver fails so Windows can't go and download the updated drivers.

Beyond that, the machines are generally more stable and have better performance, and that privacy FUD
is just that, FUD, assuming you know what to disable.

One of my unit notebooks was upgraded early on with no issues, the other, sadly, like hundreds (thousands?) of
other CAP PCs, is locked into 7 because it's "enterprise", with no word from NHQ on the fix.

I still use and support Windows every day, but my road machine is a Chromebook, and to my pleasant surprise
I have yet to find anything I need that I can't do on it (other then Photoshop, for which I have a little Win 10
Netbook I updated w/ an SSD, but my need for PS on the road is limited).
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2016, 02:00:07 PM »

Beyond that, the machines are generally more stable and have better performance, and that privacy FUD is just that, FUD, assuming you know what to disable.

You shouldn't have to know special instructions to prevent a vendor from copying your information.
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2016, 02:09:56 PM »

Beyond that, the machines are generally more stable and have better performance, and that privacy FUD is just that, FUD, assuming you know what to disable.

You shouldn't have to know special instructions to prevent a vendor from copying your information.

What is this vendor "copying"?

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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2016, 12:30:55 AM »

Beyond that, the machines are generally more stable and have better performance, and that privacy FUD is just that, FUD, assuming you know what to disable.

You shouldn't have to know special instructions to prevent a vendor from copying your information.

What is this vendor "copying"?

Well every keystroke for one. Your contacts, calendar items, and "other associated input data" which they don't need from me.

They're about as bad as Google these days.
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2016, 12:42:44 AM »

Well every keystroke for one. Your contacts, calendar items, and "other associated input data" which they don't need from me.

Cite please.
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2016, 02:07:53 AM »

Well every keystroke for one. Your contacts, calendar items, and "other associated input data" which they don't need from me.

Cite please.

http://lifehacker.com/what-windows-10s-privacy-nightmare-settings-actually-1722267229
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2971725/windows/how-to-reclaim-your-privacy-in-windows-10-piece-by-piece.html
http://www.zdnet.com/article/when-it-comes-to-windows-10-privacy-dont-trust-amateur-analysts/

Information from both sides of the tech aisle. Take it as you will.

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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2016, 10:19:09 AM »

Thank you - the second sentence of the headline from the third article sums it up.

"...anyone who has even a basic understanding of how networks work should cringe at this shoddy report."
(the now disavowed FUD posted at Forbes that started the clickbait that Win 10 was "bad")

The truth of the matter is that Win 10 integrates MS services at a closer level then other OS'.  If you are invested
in their infrastructure, this is a good thing, in the same way that Google's services are integrated into Chromebooks
and Android.

Ever read the TOS on Apple devices or looked into the recently "evolved" iAD?

Everything people were taking issue with is shown on the first screens after upgrade or install, and if you can't be bothered to
read the verbiage about what you are enabling, then that's on you.  People who allow their VCRs to flash 12:00 are not allowed to
complain they don't know what time it is.

Windows 10 doesn't require any more, or less, diligence then xp, 7, or (*blech*) 8 - don't use IE or Edge unless you absolutely
have to for a corporate application, use an ad blocker, and pay attention to what you click.

Most humorous in all this is that many of the people who "explain to me" how Windows 10 will "steal your data", are the same ones
who use their machines primarily to access Twitbook.
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2016, 01:05:29 PM »

So mow MS is starting to push the 1607 "Anniversary update" - it's mostly a bunch of stuff the
average person won't use, "stability fixes", more robust Defender,  and just enough UI tweak to be jarring if unexpected.

The fun - the "upgrade" as it's being referred in some places, stops the boot with a "new" first-boot
screen that resets the user's privacy and optional preferences back to MS' preferred choices unless they
re-read the options (the same ones they didn't read the first time). 

This includes resetting the browser default to Edge, and now in settings the OS asks you twice if you really, really want to
set the default to something else.   !@#$%

It runs every user though a new "Hi" cycle on first login, and all the crapware apps are reinstalled (Get Office, Skype Preview, Sway, etc.).

Meanwhile, back at stately Gates Manor, MS has changed their stance on Win 7 and 8 support which will now run through
EOL regardless of chipset. http://siliconangle.com/blog/2016/08/14/microsoft-backtracks-on-shorter-windows-7-support-plan/

Still no guidance from NHQ, though in light of the above, much less impetus to worry about it.

Any discussion on this at the Conference?


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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2016, 12:08:17 PM »

Last night I upgraded our squadron laptops to SSDs (Samsung Evo 750 drives. They are about 10% slower than my 850 drives, but still far faster than the OEM HDDs.) I previously maxed the RAM on them. Instead of using the samsung migration tool I simply pulled the hard drives, installed windows 10 from PXE, and punched in the windows 7 pro key under the battery. Activation was successful on both systems.

This confirms several reports that I've seen online for a while: That even though MS is no longer pushing the windows 10 free upgrade, users can still take advantage of it if they wish to from a clean install.

Hopefully this helps people that missed the upgrade window (or that have enterprise licenses on their drives but an OEM license for windows 7 pro under the battery.)
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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2016, 07:01:56 PM »

(or that have enterprise licenses on their drives but an OEM license for windows 7 pro under the battery.)

Shhhhhhhhhhh...
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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2016, 07:58:40 PM »

Oh yeah, and the secondary benefit of this upgrade is that if I'm ever told that windows 10 has a "stability issue" with any CAP tools (we have CAP tools on computers?!) I can just slam the old drives in the system and be back on windows 7 in 30 minutes... well, 60 minutes if I have to run windows update.

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