Okay, Help me out. My SQ commander was told to transfer any member who had not attended meetings and was not "Safety Current" into "patron Status by the (wing?) I.G. My SQ has a bunch of old guys who have been spindled folded and mutilated ( like me) but since they have not attended SQ safety meetings, they were involuntarily demoted to Patron members to clean up the Inspection report. Is this Kosher? Did the I.G lead my SQ commander down the primrose path?
Quote from: ALORD on January 11, 2016, 12:52:31 PMOkay, Help me out. My SQ commander was told to transfer any member who had not attended meetings and was not "Safety Current" into "patron Status by the (wing?) I.G. My SQ has a bunch of old guys who have been spindled folded and mutilated ( like me) but since they have not attended SQ safety meetings, they were involuntarily demoted to Patron members to clean up the Inspection report. Is this Kosher? Did the I.G lead my SQ commander down the primrose path?It is kosher, and a good practice. Our wing recently went through a purge, moving those who don't attend meetings, are not safety current and/or not have taken the new CPPT program into patron status. Some hollered foul, but complied and became active. Others it didn't affect, they just are spending their money on CAP for whatever reason, and we never hear from them. Having a bunch of non-compliant members looks bad on an inspection. Makes people thing the CC isn't doing his job.
Roger that. Here is my particular situation: I have a terminal disease, acquired in the course and scope of my employment as a Paramilitary Contractor, working for our Uncle Sam during Hurricane Katrina. Going to meetings could be occasionally possible, but the idea that I would ever be active in my former CAP job as a GTL, or in any job that might have issues with my occasionally vomiting blood, is somewhat laughable. I notified my SQ commander via E-Mail when it became obvious that I would probably not be terribly active, but would continue to pay dues, support CAP, and handle whatever duties I could should I recover or go into remission. This morning I was advised that our Deputy Commander for Seniors had downgraded my membership status to Patron, which I find somewhat insulting, but if kicking all the disabled people off the SQ roster to gundeck the reports is the standard policy, I understand. I don't see how this can be reconciled with our stated and published policies, but maybe that's just me. FYI, if that's the policy, I will have a bunch of 46 Long Uniforms available shortly, from Mess down to BDU's.
Well, if I had not been involuntarily converted to a Patron member I could, but Patron members don't have access to online Safety tests!
Well, it looks like a former DC for Seniors was trying to do a purge, and "converted" me to Patron status. ( Not even a Patron Saint!) I have been assured that the correct buttons to be pushed will be, and I will be a regular member once again, THEN I can do Safety ( Joy) quizzes. I am not sure exactly what "Higgledy-Piggeldy" is precisely, but it sounds like that was the methodology employed, or the nearest metric equivalent, and maybe an inspecting I.G giving the SQ Commander a little, slightly outdated, advice on cleaning up the roster. Apparently, there is sort of an epidemic of safety non-compliance for people actively attending, but not spending the required 15 minutes per month listening to power points about running with scissors. Suggestion: Put all safety presentations on YouTube so we can all... enjoy them...
Quote from: ALORD on January 11, 2016, 02:45:19 PMWell, it looks like a former DC for Seniors was trying to do a purge, and "converted" me to Patron status. ( Not even a Patron Saint!) I have been assured that the correct buttons to be pushed will be, and I will be a regular member once again, THEN I can do Safety ( Joy) quizzes. I am not sure exactly what "Higgledy-Piggeldy" is precisely, but it sounds like that was the methodology employed, or the nearest metric equivalent, and maybe an inspecting I.G giving the SQ Commander a little, slightly outdated, advice on cleaning up the roster. Apparently, there is sort of an epidemic of safety non-compliance for people actively attending, but not spending the required 15 minutes per month listening to power points about running with scissors. Suggestion: Put all safety presentations on YouTube so we can all... enjoy them...Getting the "Winter driving" Safety seminar in Florida, or "Tornados!" in, say, downtown Boston.
Sq/CC must do what he is ordered to do, however there is no requirement to do so nationwide. Most non compliant members aren't active in ES, so that isn't a problem. As I understand things, Non compliant members can still do AE or CP. They can go to meetings and conferences. They can even participate on missions, however before they begin the event, it's good practice to get them compliant...