Cadet grades--nation-wide percentage?

Started by Equinox, December 09, 2012, 06:45:30 PM

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Equinox

According to the second volume of Learn to Lead, the top 15% of cadets are C/2nd Lt or higher.

Anyone know the stats on other cadet grades?
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Майор Хаткевич

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5% Earhart, 2% Eaker, 0.5% Spaatz, 27% WBA

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Cool Mace

Something like that... Although, I thought he was a "Weaker" cadet as well? Maybe not.
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Equinox

Quote from: usafaux2004 on December 09, 2012, 07:50:29 PM
5% Earhart, 2% Weaker, 0.5% Spaatz, 27% WBA

Thanks for the info!

What does WBA stand for?

Any idea as to how many cadets hold grade of C/1st Lt?
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Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: Cool Mace on December 09, 2012, 07:53:55 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on December 09, 2012, 07:50:29 PM
5% Earhart, 2% Weaker, 0.5% Spaatz, 27% WBA

Ounch!


Stupid "Smart" phone...

My sig has the Earhart Ribbon. I hold nothing against Eaker cadets (except for those who had time but never tried for Spaatz).

68w20

Quote from: usafaux2004 on December 09, 2012, 07:50:29 PM
5% Earhart, 2% Eaker, 0.5% Spaatz, 27% WBA

I know that those are the numbers that are always quoted (at least as long as I've been in), but what's the source?  I'm wondering if there're more recent percentages out there.

Майор Хаткевич

I think NHQ put those out at some point. It even makes some sense. Since numbering started in 79/80, there are about 60K Mitchell numbers and 17K Earhart or so?

Cool Mace

Quote from: usafaux2004 on December 09, 2012, 09:11:35 PM
Quote from: Cool Mace on December 09, 2012, 07:53:55 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on December 09, 2012, 07:50:29 PM
5% Earhart, 2% Weaker, 0.5% Spaatz, 27% WBA

Ounch!


Stupid "Smart" phone...

My sig has the Earhart Ribbon. I hold nothing against Eaker cadets (except for those who had time but never tried for Spaatz).


I should have looked at that.  :P

I'm a proud failure of the Spaatz exam myself. So close...  >:(
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TJT__98

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Only 27% get the WBA? I thought for sure I wasn't that cool  :D. (edit) Now that I actually think about it the Wright Brothers Award was an achievement so that needs to be taken into account. (/edit)
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Extremepredjudice

Ok, so I want to know the percentages for C/Sra, C/A1c, C/Amn, and C/AB
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Quote from: Extremepredjudice on December 10, 2012, 03:22:25 AM
Ok, so I want to know the percentages for C/Sra, C/A1c, C/Amn, and C/AB
Well, as far as C/AB goes...

I would certainly hope that every basic at least gets C/AB.  ;D
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jimmydeanno

EP,

Are you looking for the number of cadets who currently are, or the percentage that make it to those on average?  Because 100% of cadets earn "C/AB."

Just a quick guess, but I'd venture to say that the distribution looks something like this:

C/AB - 100%
C/Amn - 70%
C/A1C - 50%
C/SrA - 40 %
C/SSgt - 27%
C/TSgt - 25%
C/MSgt - 23%
C/SMSgt - 20%
C/CMSgt - 18%
C/CMSgt - 16%
C/2d Lt - 15%
C/1st Lt - 10%
C/Capt - 5%
C/Maj - 3%
C/Lt Col - 2%
C/Col - 0.5%


Kind of sad, when you think about it.
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Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: TJT__98 on December 10, 2012, 02:13:05 AM
Only 27% get the WBA? I thought for sure I wasn't that cool  :D . (edit) Now that I actually think about it the Wright Brothers Award was an achievement so that needs to be taken into account. (/edit)

These statistics are WB Award specific, not based on the old system that was changed almost 10 years ago.

-Proud recipient of the Wright Brothers Achievement (3)
-Never wore the Feik
-Was issued a WBA # when I earned my Mitchell.

PHall

Quote from: usafaux2004 on December 09, 2012, 09:11:35 PM
Quote from: Cool Mace on December 09, 2012, 07:53:55 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on December 09, 2012, 07:50:29 PM
5% Earhart, 2% Weaker, 0.5% Spaatz, 27% WBA

Ounch!


Stupid "Smart" phone...

My sig has the Earhart Ribbon. I hold nothing against Eaker cadets (except for those who had time but never tried for Spaatz).


People with more then half a brain turn OFF the auto-correct.   Just sayin'...

JeffDG

I can only do my wing, but in terms of current rank:

CADET   25.8%
C/Amn   19.6%
C/A1C   8.6%
C/CMSgt   7.1%
C/2dLt   6.6%
C/SrA   5.7%
C/SSgt   5.3%
C/SMSgt   4.9%
C/MSgt   4.4%
C/TSgt   4.2%
C/1stLt   2.0%
C/Capt   2.0%
C/LtCol   1.8%
C/Maj   1.8%
C/Col   0.2%

Майор Хаткевич

Makes sense actually. I'd say maybe 1 out of 4/5 are non-starters who join and don't promote and are gone within a year.

TJT__98

Quote from: usafaux2004 on December 10, 2012, 06:23:31 AM
Quote from: TJT__98 on December 10, 2012, 02:13:05 AM
Only 27% get the WBA? I thought for sure I wasn't that cool  :D . (edit) Now that I actually think about it the Wright Brothers Award was an achievement so that needs to be taken into account. (/edit)

These statistics are WB Award specific, not based on the old system that was changed almost 10 years ago.

-Proud recipient of the Wright Brothers Achievement (3)
-Never wore the Feik
-Was issued a WBA # when I earned my Mitchell.
That's what I thought after I posted that.
C/MSgt
Wright Award 21322