Boonie Cover

[lordmonar]

So what options are there?

How about common sense?

Okay, enlighten me. How will common sense keep me from getting frostbite on my ears at 20 degrees?

When you have the answer to that, tell me how it fits within 39-1.

You ignore 39-1 and do what you have to do!

[desert rat]

I wish I wore a Boonie cover last weekend during our SARX.  I am light skinned and burned my face and ears.  Sunblock was not put on as liberal and often as it should have.

[SarDragon]

So what options are there?

How about common sense?

No Sir...we don't carry that here.....you got's to go down to the Western Auto Store and have them order you some of that from Philly.

Nah, Philly quit carrying that a long time ago. Check the Chicago store(s). 

[JayT]

Just curious, what exactly is a cover?

[Al Sayre]

Courtesy of dictionary .com.

cov·er      /ˈkʌvər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kuhv-er] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object) 1. to be or serve as a covering for; extend over; rest on the surface of: Snow covered the fields. 
2. to place something over or upon, as for protection, concealment, or warmth. 
3. to provide with a covering or top: Cover the pot with a lid. 
4. to protect or conceal (the body, head, etc.) with clothes, a hat, etc; wrap. 
5. to bring upon (oneself): He covered himself with glory by his exploits. 
6. to hide from view; screen. 
7. to spread on or over; apply to: to cover bread with honey. 
8. to put all over the surface of: to cover a wall with paint. 
9. to include, deal with, or provide for; address: The rules cover working conditions. 
10. to suffice to defray or meet (a charge, expense, etc.): Ten dollars should cover my expenses. 
11. to offset (an outlay, loss, liability, etc.). 
12. to achieve in distance traversed; pass or travel over: We covered 600 miles a day on our trip. 
13. Journalism. a. to act as a reporter or reviewer of (an event, a field of interest, a performance, etc.); have as an assignment: She covers sports for the paper. 
b. to publish or broadcast a report or reports of (a news item, a series of related events, etc.): The press covered the trial in great detail. 

14. to pass or rise over and surmount or envelop: The river covered the town during the flood. 
15. Insurance. to insure against risk or loss. 
16. to shelter; protect; serve as a defense for. 
17. Military. a. to be in line with by occupying a position directly before or behind. 
b. to protect (a soldier, force, or military position) during an expected period of ground combat by taking a position from which any hostile troops can be fired upon. 

18. to take temporary charge of or responsibility for in place of another: Please cover my phone while I'm out to lunch. 
19. to extend over; comprise: The book covers 18th-century England. 
20. to be assigned to or responsible for, as a territory or field of endeavor: We have two sales representatives covering the Southwest. 
21. to aim at, as with a pistol. 
22. to have within range, as a fortress does adjacent territory. 
23. to play a card higher than (the one led or previously played in the round). 
24. to deposit the equivalent of (money deposited), as in wagering. 
25. to accept the conditions of (a bet, wager, etc.). 
26. (in short selling) to purchase securities or commodities in order to deliver them to the broker from whom they were borrowed. 
27. Baseball. to take a position close to or at (a base) so as to catch a ball thrown to the base: The shortstop covered second on the attempted steal. 
28. Sports. to guard (an opponent on offense) so as to prevent him or her from scoring or carrying out his or her assignment: to cover a potential pass receiver. 
29. (esp. of a male animal) to copulate with. 
30. (of a hen) to brood or sit on (eggs or chicks). 
–verb (used without object) 31. Informal. to serve as a substitute for someone who is absent: We cover for the receptionist during lunch hour. 
32. to hide the wrongful or embarrassing action of another by providing an alibi or acting in the other's place: They covered for him when he missed roll call. 
33. to play a card higher than the one led or previously played in the round: She led the eight and I covered with the jack. 
34. to spread over an area or surface, esp. for the purpose of obscuring an existing covering or of achieving a desired thickness and evenness: This paint is much too thin to cover. 
–noun 35. something that covers, as the lid of a container or the binding of a book. 
36. a blanket, quilt, or the like: Put another cover on the bed. 
37. protection; shelter; concealment. 
38. anything that veils, screens, or shuts from sight: under cover of darkness. 
39. woods, underbrush, etc., serving to shelter and conceal wild animals or game; a covert. 
40. Ecology. vegetation that serves to protect or conceal animals, such as birds, from excessive sunlight, from drying, or from predators. 
41. a set of eating utensils and the like, as plate, knife, fork, and napkin, placed for each person at a table. 
42. an assumed identity, occupation, or business that masks the true or real one: His job at the embassy was a cover for his work as a spy. 
43. a covering of snow, esp. when suitable for skiing. 
44. a pretense; feigning. 
45. a person who substitutes for another or stands ready to substitute if needed: She was hired as a cover for six roles at the opera house. 
46. cover charge. 
47. Philately. a. an envelope or outer wrapping for mail. 
b. a letter folded so that the address may be placed on the outside and the missive mailed. 

48. Finance. funds to cover liability or secure against risk of loss. 
49. Music. cover version. 
50. Also called covering. Mathematics. a collection of sets having the property that a given set is contained in the union of the sets in the collection. 
—Verb phrase51. cover up, a. to cover completely; enfold. 
b. to keep secret; conceal: She tried to cover up her part in the plot. 

—Idioms52. blow one's cover, to divulge one's secret identity, esp. inadvertently: The TV news story blew his carefully fabricated cover. 
53. break cover, to emerge, esp. suddenly, from a place of concealment: The fox broke cover and the chase was on. 
54. cover one's ass, Slang: Vulgar. to take measures that will prevent one from suffering blame, loss, harm, etc. 
55. take cover, to seek shelter or safety: The hikers took cover in a deserted cabin to escape the sudden storm. 
56. under cover, a. clandestinely; secretly: Arrangements for the escape were made under cover. 
b. within an envelope: The report will be mailed to you under separate cover. 



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[Origin: 1200–50; ME coveren < OF covrir < L cooperīre to cover completely, equiv. to co- co- + operīre to shut, close, cover (op-, appar. for ob- ob- + -erīre; see aperient)]

—Related forms
cov·er·a·ble, adjective
cov·er·er, noun
cov·er·less, adjective


—Synonyms 2. overlay, overspread, envelop, enwrap. 6. cloak, conceal. 11. counterbalance, compensate for. 37, 38. Cover, protection, screen, shelter mean a defense against harm or danger and a provision for safety. The main idea in cover is that of concealment, as in darkness, in a wood, or behind something: The ground troops were left without cover when the air force was withdrawn. Screen refers especially to something behind which one can hide: A heavy fire formed a screen for ground operations. Protection and shelter emphasize the idea of a guard or defense, a shield against injury or death. A protection is any such shield: In World War II, an air cover of airplanes served as a protection for troops. A shelter is something that covers over and acts as a place of refuge: An abandoned monastery acted as a shelter.

[LTC_Gadget]

Just curious, what exactly is a cover?

Catch-all word for whatever 'hat'/head-covering is appropriate/authorized for the uniform of the moment.

On another note, I didn't dig through the entire thread to see if it's been cited, so sorry if it's repetition.  But, one other use for the boonie hat.  The ammo band on the top makes a handy storage spot for all the batteries we have to carry for all the equipment, and the odd screwdriver or two.  Packin' light, dontchaknow..    Pulling tongue from cheek and running for cover... no, not that one..

[Pylon]

I wish I wore a Boonie cover last weekend during our SARX.  I am light skinned and burned my face and ears.  Sunblock was not put on as liberal and often as it should have.

Wait, back up here for a second.  You wished you wore a boonie cap (out of regs) because it would have prevented the sun-burn you got as a result of you neglecting to properly apply sunscreen (recommended)?   

And what is a SARX?  I've been on a SAREx or a SAREX before... but a SARX?  (Is that pronounced like larks?)

[flyerthom]

I wish I wore a Boonie cover last weekend during our SARX.  I am light skinned and burned my face and ears.  Sunblock was not put on as liberal and often as it should have.

Wait, back up here for a second.  You wished you wore a boonie cap (out of regs) because it would have prevented the sun-burn you got as a result of you neglecting to properly apply sunscreen (recommended)?   

And what is a SARX?  I've been on a SAREx or a SAREX before... but a SARX?  (Is that pronounced like larks?)

SARX - possible a search for ones ex wife who has your xcar and xboat 

Don't know how I managed it but I burnt my scalp Saturday while getting current in a PA-28 Cherokee Cruiser.  Nicest Cherokee I've ever flown! Worth every bit of redness.

[IronRangerMN]

I believe boonie hats are nice to wear and it would be nice to be aloud to wear.

[pixelwonk]

Reasons we SHOULD be able to wear boonies as covers.

When you wear a regular mil-issue style cover, that doesn't help your ears or the back of your neck. And you can't always be putting on sunscreen.

When its windy, boonies offer more protection for your ears.

When its hot, the larger air vents and loose fitting keeps you cooler in hot weather.

If theres dust, its much better than a regular cover.

If its raining, your hearing is better and your whole head doesn't get soaked, ear aches, etc. And wouldn't improved hearing while in the field help you find your target?

When im moving through the dense woods hear in Minnesota, there are lots of branches. In the fall and spring they can be invisible because they have no leaves. Especially at night. All I have to do to protect my face, ears , eyes, and neck from a bad scratching is tilt my head downward and keep walking.

I should start wearing mine more often in the field because I am aloud too. Its still cold out. The Minnesota Weatrher Law says you can wear what ever you must to keep warm. Loophole! 

Every single one of those reasons is a load of bull.

[flyerthom]

Reasons we SHOULD be able to wear boonies as covers.

When you wear a regular mil-issue style cover, that doesn't help your ears or the back of your neck. And you can't always be putting on sunscreen.

When its windy, boonies offer more protection for your ears.

When its hot, the larger air vents and loose fitting keeps you cooler in hot weather.

If theres dust, its much better than a regular cover.

If its raining, your hearing is better and your whole head doesn't get soaked, ear aches, etc. And wouldn't improved hearing while in the field help you find your target?

When im moving through the dense woods hear in Minnesota, there are lots of branches. In the fall and spring they can be invisible because they have no leaves. Especially at night. All I have to do to protect my face, ears , eyes, and neck from a bad scratching is tilt my head downward and keep walking.

I should start wearing mine more often in the field because I am aloud too. Its still cold out. The Minnesota Weatrher Law says you can wear what ever you must to keep warm. Loophole! 

Every single one of those reasons is a load of bull.

The real reason boonie hats are banned is that it is reserved for the Sr Member Drill team.


Senior Member Drill Team

[arajca]

Reasons we SHOULD be able to wear boonies as covers.

When you wear a regular mil-issue style cover, that doesn't help your ears or the back of your neck. And you can't always be putting on sunscreen.

When its windy, boonies offer more protection for your ears.

When its hot, the larger air vents and loose fitting keeps you cooler in hot weather.

If theres dust, its much better than a regular cover.

If its raining, your hearing is better and your whole head doesn't get soaked, ear aches, etc. And wouldn't improved hearing while in the field help you find your target?

When im moving through the dense woods hear in Minnesota, there are lots of branches. In the fall and spring they can be invisible because they have no leaves. Especially at night. All I have to do to protect my face, ears , eyes, and neck from a bad scratching is tilt my head downward and keep walking.

I should start wearing mine more often in the field because I am aloud too. Its still cold out. The Minnesota Weatrher Law says you can wear what ever you must to keep warm. Loophole! 

Reason not to wear the boonie cap - the USAF has said CAP cannot wear it. Period. USAF decision trumps all the reasons listed above.

Oh, and about your "loophole". Please explain how a light weight summer cap can keep you warmer than a properly fitting winter cap. And no, your not "aloud" to wear it.

[IronRangerMN]

Of course I follow the rules. And of course I know the AF rules are way high than my reasons I would like to wear them. Rules are rules.

[shorning]

Reasons we SHOULD be able to wear boonies as covers.

When you wear a regular mil-issue style cover, that doesn't help your ears or the back of your neck. And you can't always be putting on sunscreen.

When its windy, boonies offer more protection for your ears.

When its hot, the larger air vents and loose fitting keeps you cooler in hot weather.

If theres dust, its much better than a regular cover.

If its raining, your hearing is better and your whole head doesn't get soaked, ear aches, etc. And wouldn't improved hearing while in the field help you find your target?

When im moving through the dense woods hear in Minnesota, there are lots of branches. In the fall and spring they can be invisible because they have no leaves. Especially at night. All I have to do to protect my face, ears , eyes, and neck from a bad scratching is tilt my head downward and keep walking.

I should start wearing mine more often in the field because I am aloud too. Its still cold out. The Minnesota Weatrher Law says you can wear what ever you must to keep warm. Loophole! 

Every single one of those reasons is a load of bull.

x2!  And I grew up in Minnesota...

[floridacyclist]

Reason not to wear the boonie cap - the USAF has said CAP cannot wear it. Period. USAF decision trumps all the reasons listed above.

Oh, and about your "loophole". Please explain how a light weight summer cap can keep you warmer than a properly fitting winter cap. And no, your not "aloud" to wear it.

He said those were reasons we should be allowed to wear it, not reasons we should wear it...he's stating his opinion that the rules should be changed, not advocating to  break them.

A proper reply to him would be to state that "In my opinion, the reasons the rules should not be changed are....." not to state that they don't allow it...we know that already or we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Since you hinted at suggesting it, what winter hats are we allowed to wear?

[JC004]

DIE, TOPIC, DIE!!   

[shorning]

DIE, TOPIC, DIE!!   

Does the "Nazi Rule" apply?  I'll gladly call Nin a Nazi if it will kill threads like these...

[lordmonar]

DIE, TOPIC, DIE!!   

Does the "Nazi Rule" apply?  I'll gladly call Nin a Nazi if it will kill threads like these...

We can pull the poltics and religion rules too.


Because George Bush wears boonie hats we should all be allowed except the liberal left would not like it....plus boonie hats prove that evolution is a lie and we all need to be taught bible creationism in school!



There!  Let it die!  There are lots of good resons to wear the stupid hat, lots of reasons why we should not.  We have asked the USAF several times and they keep saying no.  Send a request up  your chain of command to NHQ to get it added to the NB agenda.

[RogueLeader]

But why let it die?
We are having so much fun with it. . . . . . . . .

[Major Carrales]

And what is a SARX?  I've been on a SAREx or a SAREX before... but a SARX?  (Is that pronounced like larks?)

"Like a lark in the park making his mark serenading the dark...with a Chorus of SAM's SONG"

Sorry, it just seems to fit.

Regards to Bing and Gary Crosby

Here, this will kill the thread...

"Star Trek is better than Star Wars"