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General Discussion => The Lobby => Topic started by: SAREXinNY on December 12, 2017, 12:57:36 AM

Title: CAP Form 11
Post by: SAREXinNY on December 12, 2017, 12:57:36 AM
Am I going crazy, or is the CAP Form 11 not available on capmembers.com?  I'm trying to prepare for a PD training coming up and I wanted to make sure I was using the most updated version of the form, but instead I'm redirected to a Mission Pilot Checkout (Form 91).
Title: Re: CAP Form 11
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on December 12, 2017, 01:22:33 AM
I do not know what happened in your case but I had no problem.

https://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/F011_BE086E683028C.pdf

Title: Re: CAP Form 11
Post by: SAREXinNY on December 12, 2017, 01:29:21 AM
That is so strange. When I click the Word document for Form 11 it brings me to https://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/F091_4_Dec_17_502EE9CAA66DB.docx
Title: Re: CAP Form 11
Post by: SarDragon on December 12, 2017, 02:06:39 AM
One is the PDF; the other is the Word doc format.

Send a trouble ticket on it, and use the PDF. It's fillable, and retains the Word functionality.
Title: Re: CAP Form 11
Post by: kwe1009 on December 12, 2017, 03:45:40 AM
Also, the CAPF11 is on eServices now.  It makes the process of getting course credit much faster and easier.
Title: Re: CAP Form 11
Post by: SarDragon on December 12, 2017, 03:53:32 AM
Where might we find it? (Yes, lazy.)
Title: Re: CAP Form 11
Post by: Spam on December 12, 2017, 03:50:55 PM
Drill down from "Professional Development" to "Form 11" and you'll get this page:  https://www.capnhq.gov/CAP.Form11.Web/Form11 (https://www.capnhq.gov/CAP.Form11.Web/Form11)

Shortfall:
There is no option to enter TLC. Probably because the last rev of the original (paper) Form 11 did not have an option to circle for the Training Leaders of Cadets course (which now has/will have a basic, intermediate, and advanced set of sessions).

I noticed this last week when I was trying to enter data for a TLC which I conducted on 2DEC. Had to send the paper copy to the boss for signature since the old "Wing/CC sign/fax it in" method is the only one remaining there.


R/s
Spam


Title: Re: CAP Form 11
Post by: jeders on December 12, 2017, 04:41:35 PM
Quote from: Spam on December 12, 2017, 03:50:55 PM
Drill down from "Professional Development" to "Form 11" and you'll get this page:  https://www.capnhq.gov/CAP.Form11.Web/Form11 (https://www.capnhq.gov/CAP.Form11.Web/Form11)

Shortfall:
There is no option to enter TLC. Probably because the last rev of the original (paper) Form 11 did not have an option to circle for the Training Leaders of Cadets course (which now has/will have a basic, intermediate, and advanced set of sessions).

I noticed this last week when I was trying to enter data for a TLC which I conducted on 2DEC. Had to send the paper copy to the boss for signature since the old "Wing/CC sign/fax it in" method is the only one remaining there.


R/s
Spam

That must be a restricted app because I don't have the ability to access it as a SQ CC.
Title: Re: CAP Form 11
Post by: Spam on December 12, 2017, 04:58:22 PM
Ah. My apologies, then (didn't know that).

Well, its at least an option for Wings to help speed up the data entry for (most) PD events.

If NHQ/IT ever sees this, suggest putting TLC on that menu as a software change request to go onto the "Proposed IT Project List" at https://www.capnhq.gov/CAP.SteeringCommittee.Web/SCRRankings/Index (https://www.capnhq.gov/CAP.SteeringCommittee.Web/SCRRankings/Index). (Details on that list at: https://www.capnhq.gov/news/Documents/SCR_Project_List_Explanation.pdf (https://www.capnhq.gov/news/Documents/SCR_Project_List_Explanation.pdf)).


V/r
Spam


Title: Re: CAP Form 11
Post by: EMT-83 on December 12, 2017, 05:04:00 PM
Quote from: Spam on December 12, 2017, 03:50:55 PM
Shortfall:
There is no option to enter TLC. Probably because the last rev of the original (paper) Form 11 did not have an option to circle for the Training Leaders of Cadets course (which now has/will have a basic, intermediate, and advanced set of sessions).

TLC belongs to Cadet Programs, not Professional Development. Form 11 has never been applicable for TLC.
Title: Re: CAP Form 11
Post by: jeders on December 12, 2017, 05:06:06 PM
Quote from: EMT-83 on December 12, 2017, 05:04:00 PM
Quote from: Spam on December 12, 2017, 03:50:55 PM
Shortfall:
There is no option to enter TLC. Probably because the last rev of the original (paper) Form 11 did not have an option to circle for the Training Leaders of Cadets course (which now has/will have a basic, intermediate, and advanced set of sessions).

TLC belongs to Cadet Programs, not Professional Development. Form 11 has never been applicable for TLC.

Really, then how do you guys record completion of TLC? Because we've always done it with a Form 11.

Edit to add:
From the TLC Course Director Handbook
QuoteSend completed CAPF 11 to NHQ
Title: Re: CAP Form 11
Post by: SAREXinNY on December 14, 2017, 01:12:26 AM
Quote from: jeders on December 12, 2017, 05:06:06 PM
Quote from: EMT-83 on December 12, 2017, 05:04:00 PM
Quote from: Spam on December 12, 2017, 03:50:55 PM
Shortfall:
There is no option to enter TLC. Probably because the last rev of the original (paper) Form 11 did not have an option to circle for the Training Leaders of Cadets course (which now has/will have a basic, intermediate, and advanced set of sessions).

TLC belongs to Cadet Programs, not Professional Development. Form 11 has never been applicable for TLC.

Really, then how do you guys record completion of TLC? Because we've always done it with a Form 11.

Edit to add:
From the TLC Course Director Handbook
QuoteSend completed CAPF 11 to NHQ

The whole TLC debate has been dragging on forever, and it varies from wing to wing, even within the same region. Everyone does it differently. As long as it's done, I don't really care if CP or PD 'owns' it.