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Title: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Eclipse on April 19, 2017, 02:38:25 PM
((*sigh*))

I'm sewing a uniform, it must be encampment time....

(http://s22.postimg.org/xzbcyz8kh/IMG_20170419_110831.jpg)
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on April 19, 2017, 03:01:03 PM
I should have guessed that one of the TV programs you watched was Judge Judy.

(For the record sometimes I watched it myself, as well as similar others)
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on April 19, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
People's Court was my favorite. Eclipse, you listening to Band of Brothers soundtrack at the same time, or switching off?
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Eclipse on April 19, 2017, 06:20:32 PM
I should have guessed that one of the TV programs you watched was Judge Judy.

There are few more pleasant pastimes for me then watching an old lady yell at people who have made bad life choices.

People's Court was my favorite. Eclipse, you listening to Band of Brothers soundtrack at the same time, or switching off?

Saving Maj Winters and his boys for tomorrow when I'm loading up...
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Eclipse on April 20, 2017, 11:17:27 PM
(http://s16.postimg.org/gs6v06nqt/IMG_20170420_220148.jpg)

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more...
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on April 24, 2017, 01:05:17 PM
First day post weekend 1 - staying awake is difficult, even after 9 hours of sleep. We talk about this every year, but going from Encampment ops tempo to "regular" just doesn't do the body good.
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Alaric on April 24, 2017, 01:09:35 PM
First day post weekend 1 - staying awake is difficult, even after 9 hours of sleep. We talk about this every year, but going from Encampment ops tempo to "regular" just doesn't do the body good.

I ended up sleeping from 6 PM to 7:15 AM when I got home
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Spaceman3750 on April 24, 2017, 01:14:33 PM
First day post weekend 1 - staying awake is difficult, even after 9 hours of sleep. We talk about this every year, but going from Encampment ops tempo to "regular" just doesn't do the body good.

It's been said before that at activities like this (especially week or two week long ones), the highest risk activity is going home.
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Eclipse on April 24, 2017, 01:54:18 PM
Completely out of gas walking in the door about 7. Food had been stuffed quickly on way home. Had to help M-i-L with internet being down (presume that is what she wanted, kinda fuzzy). Hit the couch straight out until dawn...
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on April 24, 2017, 02:39:58 PM
I got 4.5 hours of sleep Saturday​ to Sunday, which was actually an improvement from years past. Typically I crash when I get home almost right away. Made it to about 9 before it really hit.
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: NIN on April 24, 2017, 03:32:53 PM
Its quiet around here when Eclipse is at encampment...
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: THRAWN on April 24, 2017, 04:34:17 PM
First day post weekend 1 - staying awake is difficult, even after 9 hours of sleep. We talk about this every year, but going from Encampment ops tempo to "regular" just doesn't do the body good.

It's been said before that at activities like this (especially week or two week long ones), the highest risk activity is going home.

Yep. Yep twice. From personal experience, even when you have in place what you think are adequate controls to make sure that all hands get enough crew rest, you don't.

From the NHTSA: The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration conservatively estimates that 100,000 police-reported crashes are the direct result of driver fatigue each year. This results in an estimated 1,550 deaths, 71,000 injuries, and $12.5 billion in monetary losses. These figures may be the tip of the iceberg, since currently it is difficult to attribute crashes to sleepiness.

http://drowsydriving.org/about/facts-and-stats/
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Eclipse on April 24, 2017, 05:02:54 PM
It's no joke - CAP has thousands of seniors and cadets every year who roll home at 5pm on a Saturday or Sunday after
a full week / full day for multi-state drives home.

I frankly don't know how they do it.  I know not everyone is as susceptible to highway hypnosis as I am, but
tired is tired, regardless.

A number of times I've made it as far as the Lake Forest Oasis and had to stop for a nap - one year waking up to find myself with a
dead battery, ripped uniform pants, and a 3/4 drained jump pack that had been used to power a CAP VHF all weekend (thanks ICENINE,
wherever you are).   The Lords of Kobol shined upon me and the truck started after a few weak cranks,
but it was still memorable finding a way to get into the oasis without embarrassing myself or CAP.

It's something that seems to be left on the table in between the lines of "not responsible for transportation to and from activities",
and I can assure you, whether it's an encampment, NCSA, or NESA, every commander, regardless of faith, says a little prayer every year
as the troops roll home.
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: AirAux on April 24, 2017, 05:14:48 PM
I always love the first encampment cadets.  Graduation, climb in the car/van, fall asleep, get home, go to bed and sleep 24 hours...
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Ned on April 24, 2017, 06:26:25 PM
Quote from: CAPP 52-4
Paragraph 2.10 (d)

Having completed a busy week of activities, participants may be more fatigued than they realize.  Senior staff must ensure that participants are sufficiently well rested for the drive home (particularly if driving solo) before releasing them from encampment.  A suggested best practice is for the safety officer to personally check the sleep plan of each participant-driver the day prior to and the morning of departure.

That does NOT just refer just to cadets, BTW.

Ned Lee
Col, CAP
National Cadet Programs Manager
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Eclipse on April 24, 2017, 07:49:48 PM
Dinner - first meal I've had in 3 days that didn't require me standing in line but...

...no Jell-0...

((*sigh*))
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Eclipse on May 01, 2017, 06:44:47 PM
(http://s24.postimg.org/ydiit6w05/IMG_20170430_153155.jpg)
Encampment C/CC reviews his line staff in anticipation of the announcement of Honor Flight.

Wk 2 - some swimming, some learning, and lots of smiles on the way out.
ICAs showed marked improvement across the board, which makes the effort worthwhile as far as I am concerned.

Two of the line staff are headed for the USAFA this summer.  CAP's loss, the country's significant gain.

I took some long looks around the place (you never know which year will be your last).  I didn't do much this
year but mentor and push things in the right general direction - that's #14 for me.  The FNGs are doing a good job,
so who knows what 2018 will have in store.

More pics and some vids will be available soon pending USN review.

Next stop, MIWG.
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: grunt82abn on May 01, 2017, 07:08:28 PM
Outstanding!
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Alaric on May 01, 2017, 08:19:54 PM
It was a great Encampment
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on May 01, 2017, 09:05:59 PM
Thanks for sharing.

Nice.

 :clap:
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Eclipse on May 03, 2017, 04:58:27 PM
First year with ABUs generally worn, so this year was one black and one desert tan t-shirt.

(http://s27.postimg.org/97mct12oj/IMG_20170503_154801.jpg)
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on May 03, 2017, 11:09:59 PM
And just as NIN called it, it was pretty much 50/50, if not heavier on ABU side, even on staff.
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: PHall on May 04, 2017, 01:31:22 AM
And just as NIN called it, it was pretty much 50/50, if not heavier on ABU side, even on staff.

We saw the exact same thing happen when we got the BDU's.
3 year phase in, most if not all cadets were changed over within the first year.
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: THRAWN on May 04, 2017, 07:52:40 AM
First year with ABUs generally worn, so this year was one black and one desert tan t-shirt.

(http://s27.postimg.org/97mct12oj/IMG_20170503_154801.jpg)

HA! That was my brother's ship when he was at RTC. Looks like everyone had a great time. Congrats on a nother successful encampment.
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on May 04, 2017, 10:11:44 AM
And just as NIN called it, it was pretty much 50/50, if not heavier on ABU side, even on staff.

We saw the exact same thing happen when we got the BDU's.
3 year phase in, most if not all cadets were changed over within the first year.


Yea, that's what I'm referring to.


New cadets make sense, but so many "old hands" were switched, that BDUs on staff were the rarity.
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: PHall on May 04, 2017, 12:33:24 PM
And just as NIN called it, it was pretty much 50/50, if not heavier on ABU side, even on staff.

We saw the exact same thing happen when we got the BDU's.
3 year phase in, most if not all cadets were changed over within the first year.


Yea, that's what I'm referring to.


New cadets make sense, but so many "old hands" were switched, that BDUs on staff were the rarity.

That's because ABU's are "cool", right now, and BDU's are "obsolete".
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on May 04, 2017, 12:35:31 PM


That's because ABU's are "cool", right now, and BDU's are "obsolete".


BBDU4EVA
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Arc light on May 05, 2017, 03:28:28 PM
I went to the IL spring encampment as a cadet, and I had a great time. The staff and cadet staff was excellent and I think it was great expirence overall. My favorite part was listing to (I can't remember their names) but an Air Force major and CAP captain talk about her pilot expirence and his expirence as a CPD helicopter pilot. In addition in between the weekends my canteen cracked and when I came back Major Rash (forgive me if I mispelled his name) was kind enough to actually give me a canteen. I even got one of those little challenge coins from Major Pehm because he appreciated that someone from Kentucky came to the encampment. I didn't realize eclipse was their or I would have thanked him for answering my CAPtalk questions. Again great encampment, anyone who is still undecided go to the spring encampment, it's great :)
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: NIN on May 05, 2017, 07:17:39 PM


That's because ABU's are "cool", right now, and BDU's are "obsolete".

Fatigues were obsolete in 1992, and BDUs were cool.  Which was Hat's point.
Title: Re: Illinois Wing Spring Encampment 2017
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on May 06, 2017, 12:15:48 AM
I went to the IL spring encampment as a cadet, and I had a great time. The staff and cadet staff was excellent and I think it was great expirence overall. My favorite part was listing to (I can't remember their names) but an Air Force major and CAP captain talk about her pilot expirence and his expirence as a CPD helicopter pilot. In addition in between the weekends my canteen cracked and when I came back Major Rash (forgive me if I mispelled his name) was kind enough to actually give me a canteen. I even got one of those little challenge coins from Major Pehm because he appreciated that someone from Kentucky came to the encampment. I didn't realize eclipse was their or I would have thanked him for answering my CAPtalk questions. Again great encampment, anyone who is still undecided go to the spring encampment, it's great :)


Glad you had a good time. There are quite a few staff members for ILWG Spring here.