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Operations => Aviation & Flying Activities => Topic started by: Check Pilot/Tow Pilot on June 03, 2016, 03:59:59 PM

Title: Low Steep Turn
Post by: Check Pilot/Tow Pilot on June 03, 2016, 03:59:59 PM
I just noticed this on Facebook. Is it real or photoshopped?

(http://i.imgur.com/lGkVHwB.png)
Title: Re: Low Steep Turn
Post by: THRAWN on June 03, 2016, 04:09:26 PM
Gadzooks.

Just pulled up a random POH for a 182 and it looks like the max bank angle is 60 degrees. Hard to tell from the pic but it sure looks like more than 60 to me.

Lordmonar, any input?
Title: Re: Low Steep Turn
Post by: Live2Learn on June 03, 2016, 04:32:17 PM
Interesting photo.  Does the online meta data provide any clues to when it was taken, put up, or ???
Title: Re: Low Steep Turn
Post by: Eclipse on June 03, 2016, 04:33:55 PM
Clearly shopp'ed - look at the artifact around the aircraft.

Not to mention the flags are purple and the shadows on the aircraft are in the wrong direction.
Title: Re: Low Steep Turn
Post by: Check Pilot/Tow Pilot on June 03, 2016, 05:15:18 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 03, 2016, 04:33:55 PM
Clearly shopp'ed - look at the artifact around the aircraft.

Not to mention the flags are purple and the shadows on the aircraft are in the wrong direction.
Have a look at the shadows again. From the ground the Sun appears to be in the right sky and that angle would leave a small shadow on the left horizontal stabilizer.

The artifacts are from reducing the resolution from the original. The flags show the same distortions.
Title: Re: Low Steep Turn
Post by: Eclipse on June 03, 2016, 05:25:52 PM
The sun is bright from the right, which means the entire top surfaces of the aircraft would be in bright sun, and certainly the left (lower side)
would not be in shadow.

The artifactting around the flags are likely due to them being poorly / improperly masked and the sky being replaced.

At that perceived height, the plane would be a lot larger in perspective.

The only other thing I was thinking was that if this is taken on a tarmac or runway, and it was a hard turn on takeoff, it's plausible,
though certainly not a good idea.
Title: Re: Low Steep Turn
Post by: lordmonar on June 03, 2016, 05:40:51 PM
Quote from: THRAWN on June 03, 2016, 04:09:26 PM
Gadzooks.

Just pulled up a random POH for a 182 and it looks like the max bank angle is 60 degrees. Hard to tell from the pic but it sure looks like more than 60 to me.

Lordmonar, any input?
Photo shopped. 

We don't always follow all of the rules in 60-1.....but we certainly don't document them and post them on face book!  :)  Give us a bit of credit!
Title: Re: Low Steep Turn
Post by: THRAWN on June 03, 2016, 05:51:04 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 03, 2016, 05:40:51 PM
Quote from: THRAWN on June 03, 2016, 04:09:26 PM
Gadzooks.

Just pulled up a random POH for a 182 and it looks like the max bank angle is 60 degrees. Hard to tell from the pic but it sure looks like more than 60 to me.

Lordmonar, any input?
Photo shopped. 

We don't always follow all of the rules in 60-1.....but we certainly don't document them and post them on face book!  :)  Give us a bit of credit!

C'mon, there is nothing wrong with lining up every Cadet in the wing and then doing some Bud Holland aerobatics over them...
Title: Re: Low Steep Turn
Post by: Check Pilot/Tow Pilot on June 03, 2016, 05:51:17 PM
This is photoshopped 😄
(http://i.imgur.com/Ez3dKFc.jpg)
Title: Re: Low Steep Turn
Post by: lordmonar on June 03, 2016, 06:22:23 PM
[darn] it!   Now we got to Flashy Thingy the whole inter-net.   Again!

8)
Title: Re: Low Steep Turn
Post by: Check Pilot/Tow Pilot on June 03, 2016, 06:27:57 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 03, 2016, 06:22:23 PM
[darn] it!   Now we got to Flashy Thingy the whole inter-net.   Again!

8)
This is what happens when you spend five weeks flying within 55nm of Groom Lake 😜

Five down, five to go!
Title: Re: Low Steep Turn
Post by: Holding Pattern on June 03, 2016, 06:32:41 PM
Now you just need to put the triangle thingy on the UFO.
Title: Re: Low Steep Turn
Post by: THRAWN on June 03, 2016, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: Starfleet Auxiliary on June 03, 2016, 06:32:41 PM
Now you just need to put the triangle thingy on the UFO.

The Greys would crash it themselves out of shame...
Title: Re: Low Steep Turn
Post by: Check Pilot/Tow Pilot on June 03, 2016, 06:47:28 PM
Quote from: Starfleet Auxiliary on June 03, 2016, 06:32:41 PM
Now you just need to put the triangle thingy on the UFO.
Dear God No...
Title: Re: Low Steep Turn
Post by: vento on June 03, 2016, 07:27:01 PM
Since it is the Nevada Wing that we are talking about, I am sure it is a legitimate aircraft from Area 51.