I had a conversation ith a reservist who asked if the CAP had educational requirement to be appointed as a CP Officer?
I looked through what I have and could not find anything, so I pose this question:
Can one without a high school degree become an officer in the CAP?
CAPR 35-5, Sec B 2-1
Thanks :clap: I was sure I ha read it but could not place where. Good to know but you could be promoted to major, unit commander etc. with only a GED. That is a little troublesome. :-\
edit:
All sections cite high school education or equivalent (GED) as requirements to initial appointment.
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 06:24:23 PM
Thanks :clap: I was sure I ha read it but could not place where. Good to know but you could be promoted to major, unit commander etc. with only a GED. That is a little troublesome. :-\
Theoretically you could become Maj. General/CAP national commander.
Quote from: tsrup on October 25, 2011, 06:35:07 PM
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 06:24:23 PM
Thanks :clap: I was sure I ha read it but could not place where. Good to know but you could be promoted to major, unit commander etc. with only a GED. That is a little troublesome. :-\
Theoretically you could become Maj. General/CAP national commander.
Indeed. ::)
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 06:24:23 PM
Thanks :clap: I was sure I ha read it but could not place where. Good to know but you could be promoted to major, unit commander etc. with only a GED. That is a little troublesome.
Why?
Quote from: Eclipse on October 25, 2011, 06:58:05 PM
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 06:24:23 PM
Thanks :clap: I was sure I ha read it but could not place where. Good to know but you could be promoted to major, unit commander etc. with only a GED. That is a little troublesome.
Why?
I was wondering the same thing.
Quote from: Eclipse on October 25, 2011, 06:58:05 PM
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 06:24:23 PM
Thanks :clap: I was sure I ha read it but could not place where. Good to know but you could be promoted to major, unit commander etc. with only a GED. That is a little troublesome.
Why?
I'm curious too. Some of the dumbest people I know have advanced degrees. I also know smart ones with advanced degrees. Point is formal education merely means you could endure school and check boxes.
Not going there about education, etc: "Don't wrestle in the mud with the pigs, you both get dirty and the pig likes it".
FYI: I'm not calling ANYONE a pig, I'm just not getting into THAT debate...
Well you made what can basically be taken as a negative comment about some of our membership. You slung mud first. I take this one personally as I know of some high class/quality individuals who have a GED and most times it was a matter of circumstance, nothing more. Backup your comment and explain why you find someone with a GED in a leadership role in CAP troublesome or stop making arrogant, pointless posts.
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 07:11:30 PM
Not going there about education, etc: "Don't wrestle in the mud with the pigs, you both get dirty and the pig likes it".
You started the thread, then you made the negative inference, then you don't want to discuss it?
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 07:11:30 PM
Not going there about education, etc: "Don't wrestle in the mud with the pigs, you both get dirty and the pig likes it".
FYI: I'm not calling ANYONE a pig, I'm just not getting into THAT debate...
Quote from: Eclipse on October 25, 2011, 07:29:19 PM
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 07:11:30 PM
Not going there about education, etc: "Don't wrestle in the mud with the pigs, you both get dirty and the pig likes it".
You started the thread, then you made the negative inference, then you don't want to discuss it?
Sorry Eclipse, I would not dicsuss the color of the sky with you, I prefer not to deal with you.
Troll....
Quote from: tsrup on October 25, 2011, 07:40:43 PM
Troll....
Now THAT is mature, resorting to name calling.
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 07:42:42 PM
Quote from: tsrup on October 25, 2011, 07:40:43 PM
Troll....
Now THAT is mature, resorting to name calling.
It is what it is,
This is the second thread in 24 hours where you've said something controversial and then refused to back it up. It seems like you are just trying to incite negative response.
Hense "Trolling"..
If I'm off base, then why don't you start contributing to the discussions you start.
[lmgtfy]Troll
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"It is what it is".
What was my first controversial thread?
Quote from: SARDOC on October 25, 2011, 07:48:00 PM
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Name calling... Really showing the spirt of our core values in the respect area... Do you have something to add?
Hardshell,
Are you an NCO in CAP?
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 09:04:38 PM
Quote from: tsrup on October 25, 2011, 08:56:58 PM
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 08:54:36 PM
Quote from: tsrup on October 25, 2011, 08:10:31 PM
Hardshell,
Are you an NCO in CAP?
?
It's a simple question. A Yes or No will suffice.
Could you please qualify your question's relevance to the subject matter?
It was either this thread or another that you responded disproportionately negatively to the subject of NCO's being brought up. I was merely curious.
NCO's in my honest opinion deserve the utmost respect from everyone on this board.
"It was either this thread or another that you responded disproportionately negatively to the subject of NCO's being brought up. I was merely curious".
Fair enough answer. You are way mistaken, I have been very pro-NCO and have been called out here several times because of it. I chose to forgo the CAP officer ranks and wear my NCO chevrons as they mean more to me and were harder to obtain then my later officer bar.
Quote from: john_Bowers on October 25, 2011, 07:20:13 PM
Well you made what can basically be taken as a negative comment about some of our membership. You slung mud first. I take this one personally as I know of some high class/quality individuals who have a GED and most times it was a matter of circumstance, nothing more. Backup your comment and explain why you find someone with a GED in a leadership role in CAP troublesome or stop making arrogant, pointless posts.
I have no problems with GEDs. I have one. Went in the army at 17 during Vietnam during my SR year. Earned my GED then went on to my advanced studies on the G.I. Bill and college loans, after school work, etc.
IMHO, when you have some time under your belt, if only here on this forum, you may be qualified to determine what an "arrogant, pointless post" is.
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 09:33:49 PM
Quote from: john_Bowers on October 25, 2011, 07:20:13 PM
Well you made what can basically be taken as a negative comment about some of our membership. You slung mud first. I take this one personally as I know of some high class/quality individuals who have a GED and most times it was a matter of circumstance, nothing more. Backup your comment and explain why you find someone with a GED in a leadership role in CAP troublesome or stop making arrogant, pointless posts.
I have no problems with GEDs. I have one. Went in the army at 17 during Vietnam during my SR year. Earned my GED then went on to my advanced studies on the G.I. Bill and college loans, after school work, etc.
IMHO, when you have some time under your belt, if only here on this forum, you may be qualified to determine what a "arrogant, pointless post" is.
No one said life was fair...even on this forum ;D
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 09:33:49 PM
Quote from: john_Bowers on October 25, 2011, 07:20:13 PM
Well you made what can basically be taken as a negative comment about some of our membership. You slung mud first. I take this one personally as I know of some high class/quality individuals who have a GED and most times it was a matter of circumstance, nothing more. Backup your comment and explain why you find someone with a GED in a leadership role in CAP troublesome or stop making arrogant, pointless posts.
IMHO, when you have some time under your belt, if only here on this forum, you may be qualified to determine what an "arrogant, pointless post" is.
Just saying...
You: Date Registered: July 25, 2011
John_Bowers: Date Registered: November 16, 2010, 09:26:24 AM
So, tsrup, you will do the research and correct your statement and show me some of that utmost respect?
"It was either this thread or another that you responded disproportionately negatively to the subject of NCO's being brought up. I was merely curious. NCO's in my honest opinion deserve the utmost respect from everyone on this board". ;)
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 09:54:38 PM
Quote from: tsrup on October 25, 2011, 09:48:48 PM
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 09:33:49 PM
Quote from: john_Bowers on October 25, 2011, 07:20:13 PM
Well you made what can basically be taken as a negative comment about some of our membership. You slung mud first. I take this one personally as I know of some high class/quality individuals who have a GED and most times it was a matter of circumstance, nothing more. Backup your comment and explain why you find someone with a GED in a leadership role in CAP troublesome or stop making arrogant, pointless posts.
IMHO, when you have some time under your belt, if only here on this forum, you may be qualified to determine what an "arrogant, pointless post" is.
Just saying...
You: Date Registered: July 25, 2011
John_Bowers: Date Registered: November 16, 2010, 09:26:24 AM
And 16 vs 99 posts... "Just saying"
quality vs. quantity..
Alvin York had 9 months of formal schooling prior to entering the Army, whereupon he became one of America's greatest heroes. Eddie Rickenbacker made it almost all the way through the 7th Grade, Steve Jobs quit college in his first semester. Audie Murphy never finished the 5th grade. I would trade my Master's Degree to be half the man any of these men were.
Major Lord
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 09:54:38 PM
So, tsrup, you will do the research and correct your statement and show me some of that utmost respect?
"It was either this thread or another that you responded disproportionately negatively to the subject of NCO's being brought up. I was merely curious. NCO's in my honest opinion deserve the utmost respect from everyone on this board". ;)
How can one turn down a request like that...
Tell me, how long have you been a member of CAP?
Quote from: Major Lord on October 25, 2011, 10:05:14 PM
Alvin York had 9 months of formal schooling prior to entering the Army, whereupon he became one of America's greatest heroes. Eddie Rickenbacker made it almost all the way through the 7th Grade, Steve Jobs quit college in his first semester. Audie Murphy never finished the 5th grade. I would trade my Master's Degree to be half the man any of these men were.
Major Lord
Indeed.
Quote from: tsrup on October 25, 2011, 10:11:16 PM
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 09:54:38 PM
So, tsrup, you will do the research and correct your statement and show me some of that utmost respect?
"It was either this thread or another that you responded disproportionately negatively to the subject of NCO's being brought up. I was merely curious. NCO's in my honest opinion deserve the utmost respect from everyone on this board". ;)
How can one turn down a request like that...
Tell me, how long have you been a member of CAP?
Not at issue here. Just check my past posts and get back to me as to your incorrect statement.
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 10:17:35 PM
Quote from: tsrup on October 25, 2011, 10:11:16 PM
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 09:54:38 PM
So, tsrup, you will do the research and correct your statement and show me some of that utmost respect?
"It was either this thread or another that you responded disproportionately negatively to the subject of NCO's being brought up. I was merely curious. NCO's in my honest opinion deserve the utmost respect from everyone on this board". ;)
How can one turn down a request like that...
Tell me, how long have you been a member of CAP?
Not at issue here. Just check my past posts and get back to me as to your incorrect statement.
You are talking about the relevance of experience.
I'm just trying to adequately gauge yours.
I stand by "Not at issue here. Just check my past posts and get back to me as to your incorrect statement".
Shall I be expecting some of that "upmost respect" anytime soon? ;)
And FYI: You may even learns someting about that "adequately gauge" my experence...
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 10:21:40 PM
I stand by "Not at issue here. Just check my past posts and get back to me as to your incorrect statement".
Shall I be expecting some of that "upmost respect" anytime soon? ;)
As soon as you demonstrate your capacity to have earned it.
Quote from: tsrup on October 25, 2011, 10:22:49 PM
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 10:21:40 PM
I stand by "Not at issue here. Just check my past posts and get back to me as to your incorrect statement".
Shall I be expecting some of that "upmost respect" anytime soon? ;)
As soon as you demonstrate your capacity to have earned it.
So now your statement
"NCO's in my honest opinion deserve the utmost respect from everyone on this board" has special conditions is is?
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 10:25:09 PM
Quote from: tsrup on October 25, 2011, 10:22:49 PM
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 10:21:40 PM
I stand by "Not at issue here. Just check my past posts and get back to me as to your incorrect statement".
Shall I be expecting some of that "upmost respect" anytime soon? ;)
As soon as you demonstrate your capacity to have earned it.
So now your statement "NCO's in my honest opinion deserve the utmost respect from everyone on this board" has special conditions is is?
A rank by no means defines the man.
Your rank gave you respect, your actions lost it.
Quote from: tsrup on October 25, 2011, 10:27:15 PM
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 10:25:09 PM
Quote from: tsrup on October 25, 2011, 10:22:49 PM
Quote from: Hardshell Clam on October 25, 2011, 10:21:40 PM
I stand by "Not at issue here. Just check my past posts and get back to me as to your incorrect statement".
Shall I be expecting some of that "upmost respect" anytime soon? ;)
As soon as you demonstrate your capacity to have earned it.
So now your statement "NCO's in my honest opinion deserve the utmost respect from everyone on this board" has special conditions is is?
A rank by no means defines the man.
Your rank gave you respect, your actions lost it.
So you have decided I don't deserve that respect because you don't like my posts... A tad bit two faced.
DING DING
Its time to lock her up!!