Started by sardak, October 29, 2014, 04:58:49 PM
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Quote from: Eclipse on November 05, 2014, 10:09:17 PMMotivation, personality, comfort zones, & behavioral experience are essentially irrelevant, and frankly a lot of that is what people trot out as excuses.
Quote from: Eclipse on November 05, 2014, 10:09:17 PMMotivation, personality, comfort zones, & behavioral experience are essentially irrelevant, and frankly a lot of that is what people trot out as excuses.If you are unwilling or unable to participate at a scope larger then the squadron level, then promotion above Major is inappropriate.There's nothing wrong with staying at the squadron, those contributions are important and necessary to CAPsoperations, and if the pyramid was treated properly in CAP (i.e. NHQ's job is to serve the member, because it's the members who execute the missions, not vice versa), then this would be understood better.There's no way around that, and it's consistent with similar scope in the military. For some reason there is resentmentabout people who do more and are recognized for it. On a personal level, that's your private right, but when you'vegot your CAP shirt on, you should be thankful there are people who have the circumstances that enable them to run encampments, NCSAs, flight academies, etc., or put in full-time-type hours, because without them, CAP grinds to a halt. (With that said, if you're putting in full-time hours at the squadron level, your unit is broken.)The problem is that without tying promotions to assignments, they are treated as rewards for work done insteadof the mantle of responsibility.Quote from: CyBorg on November 05, 2014, 09:58:44 PMAt the same time, politics does play a part...if one has a commander who is insensitive to such things, instant brick wall. If one has a commander willing to work with those who are not glad-handing "HEY HOWYA DOIN?!" extraverts, there are more possibilities.If your unit of record is appropriate for the promotion expected, this is not an issue.It's only when it isn't, and members expect a commander to advocate something they don't agree with that the hurt feelingsstart.Rare is the member who is assigned at the Group or wing level denied Major, or Wing or Region level denied Lt Col.In cases where someone is assigned to a unit but serving ADY at a larger scope such as a Group/Wing/Region staff position, significant contributor of a wing-level activity, or perhaps a major player in ES training, then it is short work for a commander to justify the field grade promotions.But if you're parked at a unit with limited ability to participate for personal reasons, then Captain is an appropriategrade, and any further work on PD or projects should be recognized by PD levels and decorations.
Quote from: CyBorg on November 05, 2014, 09:58:44 PMAt the same time, politics does play a part...if one has a commander who is insensitive to such things, instant brick wall. If one has a commander willing to work with those who are not glad-handing "HEY HOWYA DOIN?!" extraverts, there are more possibilities.
Quote from: Storm Chaser on November 06, 2014, 07:23:25 PMI don't mean to question your experience, which is very personal and not necessarily a reflection of CAP as a whole. But there are many with ISFJ personality traits who are very successful in business, government, the military and non-profit organizations such as CAP. Your example of Sir Hugh Dowding is proof of that. Maybe you got a bad deal and maybe other members have as well. But that's true in the government and private sectors as well. Life is not always fair. But to suggest that because you or others experienced a setback, that anyone who has been able to succeed in this system had to play politics or be part of the GOBN is an unfair generalization. And it's just not true. While I don't know all the details of your particular situation, it's obvious by your own posts that you're unable (or unwilling) to participate in CAP beyond the unit level. You've mentioned health issues and personality traits (being an introvert) as reasons for not being able to do more. Fair enough. But from a commander's perspective, it's hard to recommend or approve a promotion to a level in which, by your own admission, you're not performing. I'm sure you're a fine officer and gentleman. But if you want a promotion to major, you need to be able to perform as a major. Promotions should not be merely a reward for what you've done in the past, but recognition of what you can and will do now and in the future.
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