Started by BillB, August 15, 2012, 12:33:22 PM
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Quote from: ol'fido on August 17, 2012, 11:58:02 PMHow many times have historically significant photos been destroyed or deleted by over-eager PAOs who didn't want to put out a photo that wasn't "acceptable" for their use because of "uniform issues" or other reasons. At our recent encampment, I told the PAOs that I wanted a copy of all their photos: edited and unedited. Our PAOs there got it and readily agreed.Just another example of a "roadblock" to an effective history program.
Quote from: tarheel gumby on August 17, 2012, 11:00:30 PMAlso another problem faced by unit historians is that the wings don't have any idea of what to do with an active Historian.
Quote from: AdAstra on August 18, 2012, 11:25:09 PMSo what do we save? Remember, every archive is limited by physical storage space available;
Quote from: AdAstra on August 18, 2012, 11:25:09 PMQuote from: ol'fido on August 17, 2012, 11:58:02 PMHow many times have historically significant photos been destroyed or deleted by over-eager PAOs who didn't want to put out a photo that wasn't "acceptable" for their use because of "uniform issues" or other reasons. At our recent encampment, I told the PAOs that I wanted a copy of all their photos: edited and unedited. Our PAOs there got it and readily agreed.Just another example of a "roadblock" to an effective history program.CAPR 10-2 only mentions "records of historical significance" without offering any guidance whatsoever.Early in this thread, the talk turned to offering our "archives" to some state-level institution to lovingly preserve and watch over. The term "archives" connotes something of value to be treasured. But it's just "stuff", something that we may treasure but others may not. So, Private Investigator, it's OK to toss out that extra copy of the encampment yearbook, right? I'll waffle: maybe.So what do we save? Remember, every archive is limited by physical storage space available; area of of interest; manpower; and of course, the cost to organize, maintain and store it. We all acknowledge CAP's limited resources in these areas: small, local, one, and none.Focusing on the unit historian, what tells the story of our unit, its accomplishments, activities and members? Personnel authorizations and org charts, promotions and awards, newsletters, newspaper articles, photographs, after action reports, and yes, maybe that encampment yearbook if it highlighted unit members. Ask yourself what you would like to know about your unit 10 or 20 years ago. It may not be much different than what unit members would like to know 10-20 years from now. That's what you save.
Quote from: ol'fido on August 19, 2012, 02:27:20 AMOlds felt that these conveyed a better sense of the history of the unit than did a dry, packaged, and polished statistical report that passes for unit histories in a lot of CAP and the USAF. They also gave new members of the unit a sense that they were now a part of something larger than themselves and that they could become a part of that history. It also reminded them that they had a lot to live up to thanks to those that went before them. That's what history should be. It should be a tool to allow us learn from and live up to. It should make us feel pride in our unit and what it has accomplished and make us want to contribute even more to its "story".
Quote from: Eclipse on August 18, 2012, 07:22:03 PMAn encampment yearbook would not be a random Group Historian's responsibility, that would fall on the wing being encampments are wing activities.A unit or group keeping every scrap of paper from every activity one of its members attends is going to be under a pile no one will ever look at. Something I've had to deal with more than once.There's a weird phenomena in CAP that some members think anything they are done with that is remotely related to aviation, anything ever printed or produced with the English language letters "P", "C" or "A" included, and anything they have ever done in life, CAP related or not, should end up at a squadron HQ or in their member file.The result is generally a dumpster full of stuff no one cares about, not related to CAP, and dustier then the martian surface, with a wailing and gnashing of teeth when you suggest that 10 year old "Flying" magazines can be tossed (etc.).
Quote from: FLWG Historian on September 15, 2012, 02:56:19 PMTwo people assigned to the National level in history does NOT cut it. (If there are more they have taken a very low profile).
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