Cool Backdrop from Bing

[James Shaw]

Logged in to do some research this morning for work and found this background as the Bing Main Page. That is a CAP aircraft (rust red color). I will find the info on it as well.

[capmaj]

I think they are part of the ceiling display at the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center at Dulles.

[BillB]

How do you know it's a CAP aircraft? There are no markings on it at all.

[Eclipse]

Every time someone uses Bing, a kitten cries...

[Chief2009]

It's a Fairchild 24W the Museum of Flight, in Seattle.

http://www.museumofflight.org/aircraft/fairchild-24w

[SarDragon]

I think they are part of the ceiling display at the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center at Dulles.

Nope. Wrong ceiling. SFU-H has a metal roof. Glass won't handle the amount of snow that DC gets.

[Extremepredjudice]

Again, how do we know this is a CAP plane?

[Chief2009]

This one in particular may not have been used by CAP, but  Fairchild 24's were used by CAP.

http://www.cap-ny153.org/apps/photos/photo?photoid=72451608

[Extremepredjudice]

This one in particular may not have been used by CAP, but  Fairchild 24's were used by CAP.

http://www.cap-ny153.org/apps/photos/photo?photoid=72451608

Cessna 182s are being used. Random 182 doesn't equal CAP Plane. Ditto with the Fairchild.

  I never said they weren't. While it is nice to see an aircraft in a museum, I want to know why CapHistorian characterized it is a "CAP aircraft"

[EMT-83]

Me thinks the young cadet should lose the attitude when addressing a highly accomplished CAP member such as Lt Col Shaw.

[davidsinn]

This one in particular may not have been used by CAP, but  Fairchild 24's were used by CAP.

http://www.cap-ny153.org/apps/photos/photo?photoid=72451608

Cessna 182s are being used. Random 182 doesn't equal CAP Plane. Ditto with the Fairchild.

  I never said they weren't. While it is nice to see an aircraft in a museum, I want to know why CapHistorian characterized it is a "CAP aircraft"

Here's the poop on that aricraft

The Museum's F-24 was built in Hagerstown, Maryland in early 1941 and purchased by famous ventriloquist Edgar Bergan.  Bergan sold the plane to the president of a Spokane radio station and it was acquired for Army use in 1943.  After the war, it flew with many private owners until it was purchased and restored by Ragnar Pettersson in 1981.  Pettersson donated the F-24 to the Museum in 1985.

Acquired for Army use could be CAP.

[SarDragon]

The linked article provided some provenance, and I'm sure LtCol Shaw will provide us with the results of any further research.

[SARDOC]

Every time someone uses Bing, a kitten cries...

Hahaha

[Extremepredjudice]

Me thinks the young cadet should lose the attitude when addressing a highly accomplished CAP member such as Lt Col Shaw.

I don't have attitude. I am just requesting his sources.

Army isn't CAP. Nowhere does the article mention CAP. I think they'd put that in there.

[Chappie]

Me thinks the young cadet should lose the attitude when addressing a highly accomplished CAP member such as Lt Col Shaw.

I don't have attitude. I am just requesting his sources.

Army isn't CAP. Nowhere does the article mention CAP. I think they'd put that in there.

"Army isn't CAP" .... methinks that someone needs to look at the beginnings of our organization and see from whence we came 

[Extremepredjudice]

Our parent organization was, for a while, the Army. We still weren't members of the army, as we aren't members of the air force. We are the USAF AUX. They'd drop the Auxiliary part if we were part of the air force.

Unless, sir, you want to say we are part of the Air Force, which means CAP officers can order around USAF personnel. I think it has been established we can't and rightly so.

[Chappie]

Our parent organization was, for a while, the Army. We still weren't members of the army, as we aren't members of the air force. We are the USAF AUX. They'd drop the Auxiliary part if we were part of the air force.

Unless, sir, you want to say we are part of the Air Force, which means CAP officers can order around USAF personnel. I think it has been established we can't and rightly so.

I think you missed the point....the Civil Air Patrol was under the oversight of the US Army Air Corps.  The Army could have bought the plane (s) for service in the Civil Air Patrol.   Never intended to imply that Civil Air Patrol members were either considered to be Army and/or Air Force personnel.  We have always been the Auxiliary.   My comment was directed toward the source of the aircraft.

[James Shaw]

I want to know why CapHistorian characterized it is a "CAP aircraft"

Please see the attached photo of the caption of the picture source. You will also see the tail number of the aircraft listed on the museums description and a snapshot of the tailnumbers CAP has for those aircraft used in CAP during WWII.

Thanks for the challenge, and you really should look a little more into the founding of CAP. There is a link on CAPtalk to a pdf version of the Flying Minute Men.

[AdAstra]

Would you please post the entire list of CAP aircraft? Based on the limited records that I've found, I've always assumed that these were member-owned. Any records of Army Air Corps or Army Air Force aircraft used by CAP?

[BillB]

KJeep in mind that immediately following World War II, the Army Air Force "loaned" CAP a multitude of aircraft. These were L-4's, L-5's and a few L-21's and even fewer C-45's (twin Beech) These asircraft flown by CAP were still on the Air Force inventory, and the Air Force did all maintenance.. This was back in the days when cadets could qualify as what is now Mission Pilopt and Mission Observer. In fact as a cadet I flew several missions with a cadet observer. Really cool for a teenager to fly an Air Force aircraft carrying Air Force markings.