Historical Jackpot - Historical Documents found

Started by jimmydeanno, March 14, 2008, 12:05:56 PM

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♠SARKID♠

Wow, very cool stuff!  If you ever get it onto CD I'd like to get a copy!

mikeylikey

^ Me too!  I wish NHQ would do the same, it would be an awesome fund raiser.
What's up monkeys?

NYWG Historian

This is exactly why I preach to folks to look through the old file cabinets--you never know what will turn up.

So much of this stuff has been lost over the years, it's saddening.  I'm glad that the National Historical Staff is pulling things together into safekeeping.  I just wish it would end up on the national history website or in some useable form a bit sooner....

Terrific find and congrats!  And thanks so much for taking the time to post documents here--they're great reading!

Peter J. Turecek, Major, CAP
Historian
New York Wing

RiverAux

QuoteSo much of this stuff has been lost over the years, it's saddening. 
Not lost, but intentionally thrown away.  Our records retention guidelines are way too strict. 

For example, a lot of the material jimmy has posted would be thrown away under current guidelines.   The only reason it is still around is that those regulations were not followed. 

JohnKachenmeister

Quote from: jimmydeanno on March 17, 2008, 12:40:44 AM
U. S. NAVAL AIR STATION
BRUNSWICK, MAINE

14 October 1944

To:                       1st Lieutenant John E. Palmer, Civil Air Patrol.
                           Portsmouth Squadron, Portsmouth, New Hampshire.

Subj:                   Revolver for Armed Guard.

Ref:                    Ltr. From 1st Lt. John E. Palmer, to Major
                         C. B. Grace, dated 9 October 1944.

1.  Your request for a revolver for the Armed Gard is approved.

2.  Lieutenant H. G. Pollard will be in Portsmouth, New Hampshire sometime during the week of October 15, 1944, and at that time will deliver a revolver to you, which is to be used by the Armed Guard.

C. B. Grace, JR.,
Major, USMCR.,
Security Officer.

They must have taken the .45 away!
Another former CAP officer

Gunner C

This is some of the coolest historical stuff I've ever seen.  Please keep posting.  It is IMO important to connect with the past.  It gives us a window into why things are done the way they are - tradition.  It also connects us with the heros of the past - espirit de corps.

We REALLY need both.

jimmydeanno

Quote from: jimmydeanno on March 16, 2008, 10:55:25 PM
ARMY SERVICE FORCES
FIRST SERVICE COMMAND
MANCHESTER ARMED FORCES INDUCTION DISTRICT
GRENIER FIELD. U. S. ARMY AIR BASE
MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE

21 February 1944

Lt. John E. Palmer, CAP
Commanding Officer
Portsmouth Squadron
Box #926
Portsmouth, New Hampshire

Dear Sir,

    Aviation Cadet mental screening tests will be conducted in Portsmouth Saturday, February 26.  Some time last October examinations of this same type were held in Portsmouth in the City Councillors' [sic] Office, and this proved to be a very satisfactory arrangement.  Would it be possible for you to engage this same space for this occassion?

    At Captain Sibley's direction the publicity is written in the name of the Civil Air Patrol.  For your information the news release copy is enclosed.  The article has been sent to the Portsmouth Herald for Thursday's edition.

     Captain Sibley will be at City Hall Saturday morning with the Examining Board and will be very glad to see you if it is convenient for you to be there.  If there is a member of your squadron whom you could designate to help in administering the tests, his assistance would be appreciated.

Very truly yours,

Constance Fletcher
Secretary

Encl.
  news release

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NOTE: News release has been separated from this document, however, I do believe it is in the pile of "undated" documents from the 1940s that I have.

I'm curious as to whether anyone knows if these tests were psychological in nature or more aptitude based. 
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

GoofyOne

Please count me in for a copy of the cd if you do one.   This is wonderful stuff.  Thanks for sharing with us.

JohnKachenmeister

Quote from: jimmydeanno on March 18, 2008, 06:35:48 PM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on March 16, 2008, 10:55:25 PM
ARMY SERVICE FORCES
FIRST SERVICE COMMAND
MANCHESTER ARMED FORCES INDUCTION DISTRICT
GRENIER FIELD. U. S. ARMY AIR BASE
MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE

21 February 1944

Lt. John E. Palmer, CAP
Commanding Officer
Portsmouth Squadron
Box #926
Portsmouth, New Hampshire

Dear Sir,

    Aviation Cadet mental screening tests will be conducted in Portsmouth Saturday, February 26.  Some time last October examinations of this same type were held in Portsmouth in the City Councillors' [sic] Office, and this proved to be a very satisfactory arrangement.  Would it be possible for you to engage this same space for this occassion?

    At Captain Sibley's direction the publicity is written in the name of the Civil Air Patrol.  For your information the news release copy is enclosed.  The article has been sent to the Portsmouth Herald for Thursday's edition.

     Captain Sibley will be at City Hall Saturday morning with the Examining Board and will be very glad to see you if it is convenient for you to be there.  If there is a member of your squadron whom you could designate to help in administering the tests, his assistance would be appreciated.

Very truly yours,

Constance Fletcher
Secretary

Encl.
  news release

-----------------------------------
NOTE: News release has been separated from this document, however, I do believe it is in the pile of "undated" documents from the 1940s that I have.

I'm curious as to whether anyone knows if these tests were psychological in nature or more aptitude based. 

Probably aptitude based.  Most of the current psycho. tests were developed after the war.  And if you wanted be a pilot back then, the fact that you were crazy would have been taken for granted.
Another former CAP officer

Gunner C

Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on March 18, 2008, 10:53:20 PM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on March 18, 2008, 06:35:48 PM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on March 16, 2008, 10:55:25 PM
ARMY SERVICE FORCES
FIRST SERVICE COMMAND
MANCHESTER ARMED FORCES INDUCTION DISTRICT
GRENIER FIELD. U. S. ARMY AIR BASE
MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE

21 February 1944

Lt. John E. Palmer, CAP
Commanding Officer
Portsmouth Squadron
Box #926
Portsmouth, New Hampshire

Dear Sir,

    Aviation Cadet mental screening tests will be conducted in Portsmouth Saturday, February 26.  Some time last October examinations of this same type were held in Portsmouth in the City Councillors' [sic] Office, and this proved to be a very satisfactory arrangement.  Would it be possible for you to engage this same space for this occassion?

    At Captain Sibley's direction the publicity is written in the name of the Civil Air Patrol.  For your information the news release copy is enclosed.  The article has been sent to the Portsmouth Herald for Thursday's edition.

     Captain Sibley will be at City Hall Saturday morning with the Examining Board and will be very glad to see you if it is convenient for you to be there.  If there is a member of your squadron whom you could designate to help in administering the tests, his assistance would be appreciated.

Very truly yours,

Constance Fletcher
Secretary

Encl.
  news release

-----------------------------------
NOTE: News release has been separated from this document, however, I do believe it is in the pile of "undated" documents from the 1940s that I have.

I'm curious as to whether anyone knows if these tests were psychological in nature or more aptitude based. 

Probably aptitude based.  Most of the current psycho. tests were developed after the war.  And if you wanted be a pilot back then, the fact that you were crazy would have been taken for granted.

;D

jimmydeanno

9 Jan. 1946

Subject: Requisition AAF Equipment

TO:        Liason Officer New Hampshire Wing CAP.

1.  As the Portsmouth Squadron has Four returned AAF Officers and two returned AAF Noncommissioned Officers The Squadron could use the following supplies.


    Two AAF training planes
    One Link Trainner
    Two Fifty Cal. machine guns
    Two Browning Auto Rifles
    Two Twentytwo Target Rifles
    Eight Service Belts
    Two Parachutes
    One Typewriter
    Four Waketalke sets
    Two Field telephone sets
    One aircraft Radio Set

2.  The Squadron hs [sic] the place to store this equipment and in the near future will have a place in the Sky Haven new hanger at Portsmouth Airport will have a room of their own.

Raymond C Whitcher
2ndLt.  Commanding
Portsmouth Squadron
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

baronet68

Quote from: jimmydeanno on March 19, 2008, 03:05:52 AM
9 Jan. 1946

Subject: Requisition AAF Equipment

TO:        Liason Officer New Hampshire Wing CAP.

1.  As the Portsmouth Squadron has Four returned AAF Officers and two returned AAF Noncommissioned Officers The Squadron could use the following supplies.


    Two AAF training planes
    One Link Trainner
    Two Fifty Cal. machine guns
    Two Browning Auto Rifles
    Two Twentytwo Target Rifles
    Eight Service Belts
    Two Parachutes
    One Typewriter
    Four Waketalke sets
    Two Field telephone sets
    One aircraft Radio Set

2.  The Squadron hs [sic] the place to store this equipment and in the near future will have a place in the Sky Haven new hanger at Portsmouth Airport will have a room of their own.

Raymond C Whitcher
2ndLt.  Commanding
Portsmouth Squadron

My squadron could use a couple of Fifty Cal. Machine Guns too.   ;D
Michael Moore, Lt Col, CAP
National Recruiting & Retention Manager

jimmydeanno

CIVIL AIR PATROL
Auxiliary Army Air Forces
Portsmouth Squadron
Portsmouth, N. H.

14 April 1948

SUBJECT:  NEWS

TO:           THE PORTSMOUTH SQUADRON

1. THE PORTSMOUTH SQUADRON CIVIL AIR PATROL HAS JUST RECEIVED A L-4 AIR FORCE SHIP.  THIS SHIP WILL BE FLOWN BY CIVIL AIR PATROL PILOTS ONLY, AT A VERY LOW COST.  CADETS WILL BE FLOWN IN THE SHIP FREE AS MUCH AS POSABLE [SIC].  THE SQUADRON HAS RECEIVED MUCH EQUIPMENT FROM THE AIR FORCES IN THE LAST FEW MOUNTHS [SIC].  BESIDES THE SHIP THEY ALSO HAVE A LINK TRAINOR, SIX 522 SHORT WAVE RADIO SETS, EQUIPMENT FOR INSTRUCTION IN MORSE CODE, BESIDES MANY SMALLER TRAINING ADES [SIC].  IN THE SENIOR THE SQUADRON HAS FOUR HAM RADIO MEN NOW WORKING ON THE SHORT WAVE SETS.  THE SQUADRON CAN NOW OFFER ANY CADET AGE BOY OR GIRLE [SIC], OR SENIOR MAN OR WOMAN MUCH IN THE FLYING OR RADIO FIELD.  THE SQUADRON IS MOVEING [SIC] ITS HEADQUARTERS TO THE AIR PORT AT THE PORTSMOUTH FLYING SERVICE HANGER.  THEY MEET EACH WEDNESDAY EVENING AT SEVEN THIRTY.


RAYMOND C. WHITCHER
CAPTAIN COMMANDING
PORTSMOUTH SQUADRON

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Note:  Yes, the entire message was written in CAPs (<---he he, CAPs...)
Note:  In my list of undated materials I have a catalog that lists the replacement parts that can be ordered for the morse code kits that are mentioned here.
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

JohnKachenmeister

Quote from: jimmydeanno on March 19, 2008, 03:18:35 AM
CIVIL AIR PATROL
Auxiliary Army Air Forces
Portsmouth Squadron
Portsmouth, N. H.

14 April 1948

SUBJECT:  NEWS

TO:           THE PORTSMOUTH SQUADRON

1. THE PORTSMOUTH SQUADRON CIVIL AIR PATROL HAS JUST RECEIVED A L-4 AIR FORCE SHIP.  THIS SHIP WILL BE FLOWN BY CIVIL AIR PATROL PILOTS ONLY, AT A VERY LOW COST.  CADETS WILL BE FLOWN IN THE SHIP FREE AS MUCH AS POSABLE [SIC].  THE SQUADRON HAS RECEIVED MUCH EQUIPMENT FROM THE AIR FORCES IN THE LAST FEW MOUNTHS [SIC].  BESIDES THE SHIP THEY ALSO HAVE A LINK TRAINOR, SIX 522 SHORT WAVE RADIO SETS, EQUIPMENT FOR INSTRUCTION IN MORSE CODE, BESIDES MANY SMALLER TRAINING ADES [SIC].  IN THE SENIOR THE SQUADRON HAS FOUR HAM RADIO MEN NOW WORKING ON THE SHORT WAVE SETS.  THE SQUADRON CAN NOW OFFER ANY CADET AGE BOY OR GIRLE [SIC], OR SENIOR MAN OR WOMAN MUCH IN THE FLYING OR RADIO FIELD.  THE SQUADRON IS MOVEING [SIC] ITS HEADQUARTERS TO THE AIR PORT AT THE PORTSMOUTH FLYING SERVICE HANGER.  THEY MEET EACH WEDNESDAY EVENING AT SEVEN THIRTY.


RAYMOND C. WHITCHER
CAPTAIN COMMANDING
PORTSMOUTH SQUADRON

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Note:  Yes, the entire message was written in CAPs (<---he he, CAPs...)
Note:  In my list of undated materials I have a catalog that lists the replacement parts that can be ordered for the morse code kits that are mentioned here.

So... they didn't get the .50 calibers?
Another former CAP officer

jimmydeanno

This is the first page of a 12 page document that I don't want to type :)

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HEADQUARTERS AND HEADQUARTERS SQUADRON
CIVIL AIR PATROL - UNITED STATES AIR FORCE
Bolling Air Force Base, Washington 25, D.C.

19 September 1949

6A

452.

SUBJECT:  L-4 Aircraft - Surplus

TO         :   All Wing Commanders and AF-CAP Liaison Officers

1. One hundred and thirty-five (135) surplus L-4 type aircraft have been made available to National Headquarters, Civil Air Patrol, "as is, where is".  These aircraft are located as follows:  105 at Pyote Air Force Base, Texas and 30 at Tinker Air Force Base, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.  These aircraft are available to the various Civil Air Patrol wings at no cost except as outlined below.  They are Civil Air Patrol property and will be carried on respective Wing Supply Accounts to which allocated.  National Headquarters will receipt for the entire allotment from the respective Air Force Base concerned an will issue certificates of transfer of ownership (AF Forms 104C) to each wing allocated aircraft for purposes of registering for flying or for ground instruction.

2.  CONDITION OF AIRCRAFT:

    a. At Pyote Air Force Base.  Fifty-two (52) L-4's at Pyote Air Force Base have been flown only one hour (acft & engine), the necessary manufacturers test hop.  They were then disassembled and crated in light wood crates 21'6" X 4 1/2 X 7'1" with no inner seal; total weight each 4.050 pounds.  They have been in these crates for over four years.  The fabric is reported in excellent condition, the engines are pickled, the metal parts cosmolined, with no evidence of rust.  Of the other fifty-three (53) at Pyote Air Force Base, forty-three (43) have been flown an average of 200 hours, are reported in good condition, are disassembled, engines pickled, but are not crated.   The balance of ten (10) are in poor condition and will be good only for spare parts.  Twenty-seven (27) of these forty-three (43) L-4s are without propellers.  You will be advise if a propeller is necessary on an aircraft allocated to your wing.


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    NOTE:  More to follow - I'm going to sleep. :)
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

jimmydeanno

Here is CAPP 10 - From Chicks to Falcons.  I'll let you pass your own judgment  >:D

Due to file size restrictions, I've had to break up the document by page and zipped then 2 pages per file.  For those of you who have acrobat you can merge the pages together for a full document.

Remaining Pages in next post...
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

jimmydeanno

Remaining Pages attached below.

LOOK! PINFEATHERS ALREADY!
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

Smithsonia

This thread has been a treasure to behold, indeed! Thanks for posting! The nuts and bolts stuff is great Historical grist. I have enjoyed this series immensely.
With regards;
1st Lt Ed O'Brien
Denver, CO.
Black Sheep Squadron
With regards;
ED OBRIEN

jeders

Here's a question for the mods, any chance this thread can be a sticky? I think that this is a great resource that should stay on the front page for everyone interested in CAP's history to see.
If you are confident in you abilities and experience, whether someone else is impressed is irrelevant. - Eclipse

James Shaw

Here is something from my personal collection that you might find interesting. This is part of the National collection that I had the honor of holding and scanning for archiving.
Jim Shaw
USN: 1987-1992
GANG: 1996-1998
CAP:2000 - Current
USCGA:2018 - Current
SGAUS: 2017 - Current