CAP Congressional Gold Medal Website

Started by MisterCD, May 17, 2014, 01:45:41 AM

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MisterCD

Now live: http://www.capgoldmedal.com/

For those historians and public affairs officers, this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to spread the word about the organization's contribution to the nation with an eye towards the future.


James Shaw

This is great. Very nice to see. I know a lot of work went into that. Your crew is doing a great job.
Jim Shaw
USN: 1987-1992
GANG: 1996-1998
CAP:2000 - Current
USCGA:2018 - Current
SGAUS: 2017 - Current

Mitchell 1969

Nicely done.  But, one minor comment - the photo slide show moves along just a bit too fast.  It's hard to read the photo captions before the photo changes and I couldn't see any way to slow it down.  (When I say "...a bit too fast" I really mean "a bit." Just a few seconds longer would be great).
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Bernard J. Wilson, Major, CAP

Mitchell 1969; Earhart 1971; Eaker 1973. Cadet Flying Encampment, License, 1970. IACE New Zealand 1971; IACE Korea 1973.

CAP has been bery, bery good to me.

sardak


MisterCD

Quote from: Mitchell 1969 on May 19, 2014, 03:35:50 AM
Nicely done.  But, one minor comment - the photo slide show moves along just a bit too fast.  It's hard to read the photo captions before the photo changes and I couldn't see any way to slow it down.  (When I say "...a bit too fast" I really mean "a bit." Just a few seconds longer would be great).

Please contact NHQ directly with your concerns. I personally provided or helped provide the bulk of the historical content on the site outside of the Volunteer magazine articles, including selecting the photographs and writing the captions on the slide show. I had no input, however, on the website design. If you ask NHQ, they should be able to adjust the slideshow to make it easier to read and enjoy.

Майор Хаткевич


THRAWN

If half as much energy was spent on getting new missions, or solidifiying relationships with partner agencies as has been spent on this, our planes would never stop flying.
Strup-"Belligerent....at times...."
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USAF SOS 2000
USAF ACSC 2011
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USMC CSCDEP 2023

James Shaw

This type of event and confirmation is good for CAP and the membership as a whole. The efforts of those involved, have been happening behind the scenes for about 3-4 years. They have surfaced in the last couple of years because support was growing. This type of thing does not happen in a day and should not been taken lightly.

This is a recognition of effort for the Charter Members of CAP and the sacrifices they made during WWII and beyond. Most of these members have passed and the recognition will be posthumously. The least we can do as members is appreciate what has been done.

Allow these folks to be honored and recognized for their sacrifices without turning it into a political debate.
Jim Shaw
USN: 1987-1992
GANG: 1996-1998
CAP:2000 - Current
USCGA:2018 - Current
SGAUS: 2017 - Current

THRAWN

Quote from: capsafety on May 20, 2014, 04:43:33 PM
This type of event and confirmation is good for CAP and the membership as a whole. The efforts of those involved, have been happening behind the scenes for about 3-4 years. They have surfaced in the last couple of years because support was growing. This type of thing does not happen in a day and should not been taken lightly.

This is a recognition of effort for the Charter Members of CAP and the sacrifices they made during WWII and beyond. Most of these members have passed and the recognition will be posthumously. The least we can do as members is appreciate what has been done.

Allow these folks to be honored and recognized for their sacrifices without turning it into a political debate.

Horse hockey.

It's good for the people who have been "working" on it for the past few years. Instead of working to improve the organization now, they're still feeding the myth of how the little yellow planes beat back the Wolfpack. The founders have been honored, and recognized, and have had units named for them. A CGM? Not really...

Use the networking efforts to develop missions for CAP. Expand programs for Cadets. Increase the viability of the STEM effort. We don't need another dusty bit of metal in a display case that will be forgotten about as soon as it is awarded. Just how is this good for the membership? Without Googling, name one other national organization that has been awarded this medal and how it has benefited it....
Strup-"Belligerent....at times...."
AFRCC SMC 10-97
NSS ISC 05-00
USAF SOS 2000
USAF ACSC 2011
US NWC 2016
USMC CSCDEP 2023

lordmonar

Why get your shorts in a bunch?

Someone got it done.....it's done....move on.

If you think you don't have enough work for your unit/wing.....I'm sure your unit/wing is looking for a go-getting Ops Officer to drum some relationships and get some more missions.


As for is this is good thing?  Sure...we get some publicity.  We get some face time with congress critters.  We honor our war time veterans.

What's bad in this equation?
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

SamFranklin

I'd like to think that I know a bit more about CAP's WWII service than the "average" member, but until I read the actual legislation for the CGM (available at the CGM website), I didn't know:

--   57 subs attacked
--   82 bombs dropped
--  363 survivors found

I bet we all know about the 2 possible subs hit, but wow, 82 bombs dropped. Our ancestors were keeping busy.

It takes guts to fly a single-engine aircraft over the open ocean. Add to it the gerry-rigged bomb. Add to it the possibility that some Nazi would take pot shots at you. Fear of capture. Fear in landing with the bomb still attached to your plane.

My only criticism about the CGM is this:  We should've worked this project twenty years ago so that more of these great patriots could have been alive to receive this recognition from a grateful nation.




THRAWN

Quote from: lordmonar on May 20, 2014, 06:10:22 PM
Why get your shorts in a bunch?

Someone got it done.....it's done....move on.

If you think you don't have enough work for your unit/wing.....I'm sure your unit/wing is looking for a go-getting Ops Officer to drum some relationships and get some more missions.


As for is this is good thing?  Sure...we get some publicity.  We get some face time with congress critters.  We honor our war time veterans.

What's bad in this equation?

Because getting this thing is being made out to be the greatest thing since squeezable ketchup. We're not getting publicity. Again, without Googling, who else has received this "honor"? Can't? Neither can I, and just about all I watch is CSPAN. Working local and state level missions is fine. But what about the national level missions that require interface with staffers who are busy getting facetime with congresscritters to get us an award that nobody gives a doggone about....
Strup-"Belligerent....at times...."
AFRCC SMC 10-97
NSS ISC 05-00
USAF SOS 2000
USAF ACSC 2011
US NWC 2016
USMC CSCDEP 2023

THRAWN

Quote from: SamFranklin on May 20, 2014, 07:00:48 PM
I'd like to think that I know a bit more about CAP's WWII service than the "average" member, but until I read the actual legislation for the CGM (available at the CGM website), I didn't know:

--   57 subs attacked
--   82 bombs dropped
--  363 survivors found

I bet we all know about the 2 possible subs hit, but wow, 82 bombs dropped. Our ancestors were keeping busy.

It takes guts to fly a single-engine aircraft over the open ocean. Add to it the gerry-rigged bomb. Add to it the possibility that some Nazi would take pot shots at you. Fear of capture. Fear in landing with the bomb still attached to your plane.

My only criticism about the CGM is this:  We should've worked this project twenty years ago so that more of these great patriots could have been alive to receive this recognition from a grateful nation.

That's super. It was a war. Bombs got dropped. Yippie.

It takes guts to sail an unarmed merchant ship across the pond to deliver wargoods as well. "Add to it the possibility that some Nazi would take pot shots at you. Fear of capture." Add to it having your ship sunk. Lots of people did lots of crazy brave things during the war. Doesn't justify the time that CAP and Congress have had to spend on this issue. There are bigger issues and this shiny thing is a good distraction from those issues...
Strup-"Belligerent....at times...."
AFRCC SMC 10-97
NSS ISC 05-00
USAF SOS 2000
USAF ACSC 2011
US NWC 2016
USMC CSCDEP 2023

Майор Хаткевич

I see your point....but then I also see how this CAN be used to use the contacts to develop more missions.

SamFranklin

Quote from: THRAWN on May 20, 2014, 07:33:40 PM
That's super. It was a war. Bombs got dropped. Yippie.

This is why we can't have nice things.

It's now a fact that in the judgment of the Congress, including 340+ cosponsors in the House alone, the service of CAP members in WWII is indeed meritorious, is indeed heroism long deserving of recognition, your dissent notwithstanding.

Literally, an act of Congress is passed (pending Mr. Obama's signature) to honor CAP, and yet you are unhappy? Maybe you're in the wrong organization.

Most Americans I've talked with in the past few days reacted with a sincere "Wow," when I told them this story. I'm sorry that you, as a member, do not share the admiration ordinary Americans have for Hugh Sharp, Eddie Edwards, and their patriotic comrades.



JeffDG


Luis R. Ramos

I had second thoughts about this as well.

Their service was already recognized, at least for Eddie Edwards.

Didn't he get the Air Medal? To me that is an even higher award than any Congressional Gold Medal.

Need to recognize any other CAP person from that era? Award the Air Medal to those that may end receiving the Gold Medal but were not awarded an AM. A CAP officer? Award the Distinguished Service Cross.
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lordmonar

Quote from: THRAWN on May 20, 2014, 07:29:07 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on May 20, 2014, 06:10:22 PM
Why get your shorts in a bunch?

Someone got it done.....it's done....move on.

If you think you don't have enough work for your unit/wing.....I'm sure your unit/wing is looking for a go-getting Ops Officer to drum some relationships and get some more missions.


As for is this is good thing?  Sure...we get some publicity.  We get some face time with congress critters.  We honor our war time veterans.

What's bad in this equation?

Because getting this thing is being made out to be the greatest thing since squeezable ketchup. We're not getting publicity. Again, without Googling, who else has received this "honor"? Can't? Neither can I, and just about all I watch is CSPAN. Working local and state level missions is fine. But what about the national level missions that require interface with staffers who are busy getting facetime with congresscritters to get us an award that nobody gives a doggone about....
So the bad is you perceive that "we" are making this out to be a big thing?   Again....what is the bad in this equation?   Please name one "national level mission" that is being neglected due to the time put in on this project?
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

lordmonar

Quote from: SamFranklin on May 20, 2014, 09:11:45 PM
Quote from: THRAWN on May 20, 2014, 07:33:40 PM
That's super. It was a war. Bombs got dropped. Yippie.

This is why we can't have nice things.

It's now a fact that in the judgment of the Congress, including 340+ cosponsors in the House alone, the service of CAP members in WWII is indeed meritorious, is indeed heroism long deserving of recognition, your dissent notwithstanding.

Literally, an act of Congress is passed (pending Mr. Obama's signature) to honor CAP, and yet you are unhappy? Maybe you're in the wrong organization.

Most Americans I've talked with in the past few days reacted with a sincere "Wow," when I told them this story. I'm sorry that you, as a member, do not share the admiration ordinary Americans have for Hugh Sharp, Eddie Edwards, and their patriotic comrades.
That's what I'm thinking too.
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

Eclipse

Quote from: SamFranklin on May 20, 2014, 09:11:45 PMMost Americans I've talked with in the past few days reacted with a sincere "Wow," when I told them this story.

OK, let's be fair, most Americans have no idea what the CGM even >is<, and they would certainly have no clue as
to why CAP is being decorated, any more then they understand the MOH or the military in general, for that matter.

You were either talking to a stacked demographic or they were just being polite.

"That Others May Zoom"