CAP Member in Photo on CNN Gallery

Started by a2capt, September 09, 2012, 09:10:30 PM

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Browsing through a CNN.com gallery entitled "America 101: Defining the US through photography", in a series of selected images from a new upcoming book, "Whistling Dixie: Re-enactments in the South", the ultramarine name tape jumped out at me even before the wing patch ... this being Resaca, GA.

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Eclipse

Why is he saluting re-enactors?

And someone needs more training on proper saluting and uniform wear.

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Critical AOA

Hey look, they are wearing blue over grey.. and they have cool head gear. 
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lordmonar

Quote from: Eclipse on September 09, 2012, 10:11:51 PM
Why is he saluting re-enactors?

And someone needs more training on proper saluting and uniform wear.

a) What's off screen?
b) Because he is a cadet and he thought it would be cool.

His salute could be a little better....brim of hat vs edge of glasses and maybe his hand angled a little down but over all I have seen much worse from AD military types....Nothing about his uniforms jumps out at me as being wrong.

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Eclipse

Quote from: lordmonar on September 09, 2012, 11:33:31 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on September 09, 2012, 10:11:51 PM
Why is he saluting re-enactors?

And someone needs more training on proper saluting and uniform wear.

a) What's off screen?
b) Because he is a cadet and he thought it would be cool.

His salute could be a little better....brim of hat vs edge of glasses and maybe his hand angled a little down but over all I have seen much worse from AD military types....Nothing about his uniforms jumps out at me as being wrong.

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AngelWings

Cool picture!

And Eclipse, you've seemed to have ruined an otherwise decent topic.

sab163

"Why is he saluting re-enactors?"

Why not as a Reenactor I get salutes all the time (and i wear red) from police and military, its just a show of respect, we are recreating and honoring our nations history.

AngelWings

Quote from: sab163 on September 10, 2012, 12:08:15 AM
"Why is he saluting re-enactors?"

Why not as a Reenactor I get salutes all the time (and i wear red) from police and military, its just a show of respect, we are recreating and honoring our nations history.
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saleet

Maybe there could be a US Flag approaching off camera.  If that is so good for him.  When is the last time any of you have watched Joe Citizen show his/her respect for the Flag at a parade or sports event.  They cannot even be expected to stand or lower theirselves to put a hand over their heart.

Why spend our time nit picking a young man who could be out causing trouble rather than serving in the Civil Air Patrol Cadet Program.   

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Eclipse-

The photo is not good enough to say he is wearing a "mirrored sunglass."

I see what I take as part of his eye.

But even if you see it as a "mirrored lens," how do you know it is not a photosensitive lens that he has a prescription for? The type of frame seems to me the simple frame that is given to the military, and not a "faddish lens."

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David,

What do you know about Civil War uniforms?

Those reenactors in the photo are not wearing "blue over grey." They are wearing blue over light blue, which is a correct uniform for the Civil War volunteer soldiers and militia. Only federal troops wore the same shade of blue overall.

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Quote from: saleet on September 10, 2012, 01:28:26 AM
Why spend our time nit picking a young man who could be out causing trouble rather than serving in the Civil Air Patrol Cadet Program.   

Because Teenagers are two things: CAP Cadets or Felons.

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SarDragon

Quote from: flyer333555 on September 10, 2012, 01:39:45 AM
Eclipse-

The photo is not good enough to say he is wearing a "mirrored sunglass."

I see what I take as part of his eye.

But even if you see it as a "mirrored lens," how do you know it is not a photosensitive lens that he has a prescription for? The type of frame seems to me the simple frame that is given to the military, and not a "faddish lens."

Flyer


Agreed. My "Transitions" lenses can look mirrored at the right angle.

As for the salute, "Lighten up, Francis!" I wore glasses before I learned to salute, and, given the predominant headgear throughout the years (flight caps in CAP, and dixie cups in the Navy), bringing my hand to the corner of my glasses became a natural gesture. I have never been corrected for saluting in that matter, even when wearing brimmed headgear.
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Майор Хаткевич

Actually, my first thought on the salute was the angle of the palm. It's not to the brim, sure, but it's also too "forward" with the palm.

As for the glasses, those look like the classic "$9.99" sunglasses that are reflecting what he's looking at.

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Cool Mace

Please. everyone jump his case because his salute is a little off, and his left hand has a slight bend in it. I've seen my fair share of AD (enlisted and commissioned).
I'm not saying to accept low standards by any means. But is he so far off the chart to represent a poor image for CAP? No.

Also? A salute is a courtesy. Even if he was saluting them, is that wrong? This could really go either way, depending on what side of the fence you're on.
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Eclipse

Quote from: Cool Mace on September 10, 2012, 08:48:32 PM
Even if he was saluting them, is that wrong?

Would the answer be the same if the were Ren Faire re enactors or Starfleet cosplayers?

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lordmonar

Quote from: Eclipse on September 10, 2012, 08:56:40 PM
Quote from: Cool Mace on September 10, 2012, 08:48:32 PM
Even if he was saluting them, is that wrong?

Would the answer be the same if the were Ren Faire re enactors or Starfleet cosplayers?
No.
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Eclipse

Quote from: lordmonar on September 10, 2012, 08:57:50 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on September 10, 2012, 08:56:40 PM
Quote from: Cool Mace on September 10, 2012, 08:48:32 PM
Even if he was saluting them, is that wrong?

Would the answer be the same if the were Ren Faire re enactors or Starfleet cosplayers?
No.

This is exactly the same thing.  No one in that line was actually in the Civil War on either side, so they are just playing make-believe war.
I personally believe it's somewhat distasteful, but people are allowed to have hobbies.

Frozen ice at Ren Faire or salted pork and hard bread at "Civil War Days", it's just adults playing dress up.

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