Unit Charter Numbers?

Started by RADIOMAN015, July 02, 2011, 09:08:36 PM

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Spaceman3750

Quote from: kirbahashi on December 20, 2011, 01:59:15 AM
And someone stop me if I am wrong, but Charter Numbers that are 000 are the ghost squadrons.  Where all CAP members go for purgatory...

Quite a few wings have closed up shop on 000 units (including mine) IIRC. The new policy in my wing is that problem members or those not meeting training deadlines (EO, etc) go to patron status or cease to be members, as appropriate.

a2capt

We recently unearthed the original charter for our unit, from 1968. The number is still the same, so there must have been some other reasoning to the schema.

Perhaps the numbers were issued from NHQ with the state number affixed to the beginning, XX-nnX, and the main number just the next one they had? ..

SarDragon

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RiverAux

The wing numbers have been available in quite a few places, but I haven't come across numbering of units from that time period, with the exception of something like Smithville Squadron Number 1 and Smithville Squadron Number 2.  However, I also haven't seen any CAP documents prior to the mid 1950s.  Boy, it sure would be nice to find a master squadron list from about 1945.

Spaceman3750

So that's where the 61 on ILWG's patch comes from...

SarDragon

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Angus

Quote from: Camas on July 02, 2011, 09:50:53 PM
I believe you're correct. We have units that start with 007, 016 and then 034. It goes up from there skipping numbers up to and including 114. I asked Ms Parker at NHQ the question on a master list of units and she advised me that none is kept. It is my understanding, though, that numbers may be used again so that if a unit goes inactive it can be reactivated with its old number.

This is true. My former unit when it got restarted was a 14xxx unit.  However a previous unit existed in the same city but closed it's doors a long time ago.  So they made a request for the original number which bumped it down to 002. 
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RiverAux

Quote from: Camas on July 02, 2011, 09:50:53 PM
I asked Ms Parker at NHQ the question on a master list of units and she advised me that none is kept.
Well, there may be no master list of all past CAP units, but there is a master list of current CAP units and their charter numbers in the CAPWATCH database.  Interestingly, relatively few have their charter date in the database even though there is a field. 

BillB

Several years ago, before the magic of computers, i was at National and saw a complete list of charter numbers. The list showed several units with the same number meaning a unit was deactivated and a new unit given that charter number. So the list I saw was probably the complete list of any unit that was issued a charter number from the late 1940's on to 1976. The list wouldn't show all the World War II units that were deactivated after the war since that was prior to the issue of numbers
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