HQ National Warning Letter to Senior Member "Wanna Bees" Trolling for Salutes

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JK657

#180
February 28, 2011, 04:16:03 PM
That's an option but I don't see how "you're wrong" if you educate military members. People on here constantly complain about Air Force members not knowing about CAP but this scenario would give you an opportunity to engage someone and educate them about CAP and you say its wrong to do so?

JeffDG

#181
February 28, 2011, 04:22:07 PM
Quote from: JK657 on February 28, 2011, 04:16:03 PM
That's an option but I don't see how "you're wrong" if you educate military members. People on here constantly complain about Air Force members not knowing about CAP but this scenario would give you an opportunity to engage someone and educate them about CAP and you say its wrong to do so?
OK, but the Active Duty member is not doing anything wrong by saluting.  There is no regulation prohibiting them from saluting CAP members, just as there's no regulation requiring them to do so.  You'd be opening up a can-of-worms for no good reason.

It's possible the person rendering the salute is fully aware that he's not required to, yet chooses to out of respect.  Your attempt at "educating" him could be seen as patronizing and condescending.

MIKE

#182
February 28, 2011, 04:29:38 PM
Quote from: JeffDG on February 28, 2011, 04:22:07 PMIt's possible the person rendering the salute is fully aware that he's not required to, yet chooses to out of respect.  Your attempt at "educating" him could be seen as patronizing and condescending.

Not to mention stopping to chat when they are just trying to get somewhere... like to lunch.
Mike Johnston

Eclipse

#183
February 28, 2011, 05:48:54 PM
Quote from: JK657 on February 28, 2011, 04:16:03 PM
That's an option but I don't see how "you're wrong" if you educate military members. People on here constantly complain about Air Force members not knowing about CAP but this scenario would give you an opportunity to engage someone and educate them about CAP and you say its wrong to do so?

Tell them about our mission, volunteer service, and the nearest place to join.

Suggest he not salute CAP members?

Never.

Ever.

Do that.

Ever.

The military already provides clear instruction that salutes are optional. Who are you to decide to "fix" the situation? 
You also have no idea the collateral damage that causes, especially if the person intended to salute CAP, or in situations
where people start "filtering" and get themselves in trouble with a military officer.

Return the salute and move on.

"That Others May Zoom"

JeffDG

#184
February 28, 2011, 06:01:52 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on February 28, 2011, 05:48:54 PM
The military already provides clear instruction that salutes are optional. Who are you to decide to "fix" the situation? 
You also have no idea the collateral damage that causes, especially if the person intended to salute CAP, or in situations
where people start "filtering" and get themselves in trouble with a military officer.
You know...stopping and telling him that he doesn't need to salute is incredibly condescending.  You're essentially telling him that he doesn't know what he's doing.  Military members are free to salute CAP members if they feel it appropriate to do so.  Since they're not doing anything wrong, it's not our place to instruct them on C&C.

CAP Producer

#185
February 28, 2011, 07:24:58 PM
Like so many here have said

"When a member of the armed forces salutes a CAP Officer, salute, state the greeting of the day with a smile and move on."

It's the best PR we can all do when associating with our brothers and sisters in the military.

The next best thing is wearing our uniforms correctly everywhere we go for CAP.

Oh, for those f you that don't know the "Greeting of the Day" generally is:

"Good Morning Sir", "Good Afternoon Sir" or "Good Evening Sir"

AL PABON, Major, CAP

ol'fido

#186
February 28, 2011, 07:56:36 PM
Render the salute if required.

Return the salute if given.

Be nice.

Move on.
Lt. Col. Randy L. Mitchell
Historian, Group 1, IL-006

FW

#187
February 28, 2011, 08:12:13 PM
Speaking of "moving on"...... ::)

Spaceman3750

#188
February 28, 2011, 08:15:15 PM
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Does that about cover it for this topic?

JeffDG

#189
February 28, 2011, 08:31:00 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on February 28, 2011, 08:15:15 PM
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People are idiots grumble grumble

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Does that about cover it for this topic?
That, sir, is the most concise summary I've seen in some time.  I salute you...is that appropriate?   >:D

Eclipse

#190
February 28, 2011, 08:34:16 PM
Well played...

"That Others May Zoom"

ol'fido

#191
February 28, 2011, 09:28:50 PM
Quote from: FW on February 28, 2011, 08:12:13 PM
Speaking of "moving on"...... ::)

That was my intent. The horse is well and truly dead.
Lt. Col. Randy L. Mitchell
Historian, Group 1, IL-006

bosshawk

#192
February 28, 2011, 09:32:49 PM
10 pages worth?????????
Paul M. Reed
Col, USA(ret)
Former CAP Lt Col
Wilson #2777
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