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Operations => Safety => Topic started by: Dutchboy on December 13, 2007, 06:47:21 AM

Title: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: Dutchboy on December 13, 2007, 06:47:21 AM
Does anyone know if anyone carries the safety vests that has the reflective back ground behind the cap seal and words "civil Air Patrol"?
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: Pylon on December 13, 2007, 06:48:09 AM
These? (http://www.vanguardmil.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=6_433_437)
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: Dutchboy on December 13, 2007, 07:00:38 AM
Quote from: Pylon on December 13, 2007, 06:48:09 AM
These? (http://www.vanguardmil.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=6_433_437)

I was hoping to avoid them(vanguard)  I have a pending big order and maybe if I order now, I might get it in time for encampment in june? Jk (kinda)
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: SJFedor on December 13, 2007, 07:31:07 AM
See if you can find a local place that can do some neat work.
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: Dutchboy on December 13, 2007, 07:33:28 AM
Quote from: SJFedor on December 13, 2007, 07:31:07 AM
See if you can find a local place that can do some neat work.

But I think Vanguard has exclusive rights to it because of the CAP seal.

Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: 0 on January 04, 2008, 09:35:28 PM
Personally I'm not a big fan of the ones from Vangaurd.  yes they have the seal and it looks cool, but they're not that reflective.  Especially with the gear on you can hardly see it.  I've got a high reflective belt from AFFES I picked up when I was on base and it's a lot more visible.  Now if you prefer a vest go to

www.galls.com

http://www.reflect-a-life.com/?gclid=CLrImOLuvY0CFRaiQQodmFq-HA

these are much better sources especially from a safety stand point

Removed FTP tags that were breaking the URLs - MIKE
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: afgeo4 on January 05, 2008, 08:46:19 AM
Item CAP1402D from Vanguard seems to be VERY reflective.

Anyone know if there is a difference between the "Marshaller" and "Supervisor" vests?
Does it say that on the back or something?
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: afgeo4 on January 05, 2008, 08:47:19 AM
Quote from: NERMA002 Safety on January 04, 2008, 09:35:28 PM
Personally I'm not a big fan of the ones from Vangaurd.  yes they have the seal and it looks cool, but they're not that reflective.  Especially with the gear on you can hardly see it.  I've got a high reflective belt from AFFES I picked up when I was on base and it's a lot more visible.  Now if you prefer a vest go to

www.galls.com

http://www.reflect-a-life.com/?gclid=CLrImOLuvY0CFRaiQQodmFq-HA

these are much better sources especially from a safety stand point

Removed FTP tags that were breaking the URLs - MIKE

Please don't tell our members to wear pink reflective belts with purple checks on them.
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: 0 on January 05, 2008, 11:37:42 PM
I never said purple with checks.  There are other color options, their orange is much better than anyone else's I've seen.
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: afgeo4 on January 06, 2008, 01:14:13 AM
Quote from: NERMA002 Safety on January 05, 2008, 11:37:42 PM
I never said purple with checks.  There are other color options, their orange is much better than anyone else's I've seen.

Nothing beats Syracuse Orange!   ;D
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: 0 on January 06, 2008, 01:22:53 AM
As long as it's not purple and bright reflective it will keep us safe.  With purple I don't want to look like Barney and I don't want anyone else in the program to look like him either.
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: SarDragon on January 06, 2008, 09:13:19 AM
Quote from: afgeo4 on January 05, 2008, 08:46:19 AM
Item CAP1402D from Vanguard seems to be VERY reflective.

Anyone know if there is a difference between the "Marshaller" and "Supervisor" vests?
Does it say that on the back or something?

Yes.
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: Dutchboy on January 20, 2008, 07:04:43 AM
Quote from: afgeo4 on January 06, 2008, 01:14:13 AM
Quote from: NERMA002 Safety on January 05, 2008, 11:37:42 PM
I never said purple with checks.  There are other color options, their orange is much better than anyone else's I've seen.

Nothing beats Syracuse Orange!   ;D
Aggie Blue Beats it!
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: Dutchboy on January 20, 2008, 07:06:06 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on January 06, 2008, 09:13:19 AM
Quote from: afgeo4 on January 05, 2008, 08:46:19 AM
Item CAP1402D from Vanguard seems to be VERY reflective.

Anyone know if there is a difference between the "Marshaller" and "Supervisor" vests?
Does it say that on the back or something?

Yes.
what does it say?
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: SarDragon on January 20, 2008, 07:47:27 AM
Quote from: messofficer on January 20, 2008, 07:06:06 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on January 06, 2008, 09:13:19 AM
Quote from: afgeo4 on January 05, 2008, 08:46:19 AM
Item CAP1402D from Vanguard seems to be VERY reflective.

Anyone know if there is a difference between the "Marshaller" and "Supervisor" vests?
Does it say that on the back or something?

Yes.
what does it say?

Well, not having pix of the backs available, I can only hazard a SWAG here, but they probably say"Marshaller" or "Supervisor".
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: SarDragon on January 20, 2008, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: NERMA002 Safety on January 04, 2008, 09:35:28 PM
Personally I'm not a big fan of the ones from Vangaurd.  yes they have the seal and it looks cool, but they're not that reflective.  Especially with the gear on you can hardly see it. 

Umm, what "gear" do you need as a marshaller or supervisor that would need to go over a vest? And how many times have you done marshalling where you need any more reflective material than is provided by items 1402A thru 1402D (http://www.vanguardmil.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=6_433_437)?
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: SSgt Rudin on January 21, 2008, 02:46:37 AM
this is a little bit of a drift but the last time I did FLM training (4 years ago) we all had orange vests on. Are FLM's and FLS's required to wear the lime one's now? I am doing it again here soon and that would be good to know.
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: SarDragon on January 21, 2008, 09:00:45 AM
To the best of my knowledge, as a long time ramp rat, you just need to wear some sort of high visibility clothing.

The AF specifies a "sleeveless garment of fluorescent international orange". A draft CAP flight line reference specifies "reflective vest". Lighted wands are required during low visibility (dark) operating conditions.

The Vanguard stuff should meet CAP standards.
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: afgeo4 on January 21, 2008, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on January 21, 2008, 09:00:45 AM
To the best of my knowledge, as a long time ramp rat, you just need to wear some sort of high visibility clothing.

The AF specifies a "sleeveless garment of fluorescent international orange". A draft CAP flight line reference specifies "reflective vest". Lighted wands are required during low visibility (dark) operating conditions.

The Vanguard stuff should meet CAP standards.
Umm... we don't have standards. We have suggestions. And mostly just on this board.

All our stuff said is that you have to wear a safety vest.
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: SJFedor on January 24, 2008, 11:05:37 PM
Quote from: afgeo4 on January 21, 2008, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on January 21, 2008, 09:00:45 AM
To the best of my knowledge, as a long time ramp rat, you just need to wear some sort of high visibility clothing.

The AF specifies a "sleeveless garment of fluorescent international orange". A draft CAP flight line reference specifies "reflective vest". Lighted wands are required during low visibility (dark) operating conditions.

The Vanguard stuff should meet CAP standards.
Umm... we don't have standards. We have suggestions. And mostly just on this board.

All our stuff said is that you have to wear a safety vest.

Next time  I'm running a flight line, I'm going to wear a personal flotation device. As long as it's orange....  >:D >:D
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: SSgt Rudin on January 25, 2008, 05:39:52 AM
Quote from: SJFedor on January 24, 2008, 11:05:37 PM
Quote from: afgeo4 on January 21, 2008, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on January 21, 2008, 09:00:45 AM
To the best of my knowledge, as a long time ramp rat, you just need to wear some sort of high visibility clothing.

The AF specifies a "sleeveless garment of fluorescent international orange". A draft CAP flight line reference specifies "reflective vest". Lighted wands are required during low visibility (dark) operating conditions.

The Vanguard stuff should meet CAP standards.
Umm... we don't have standards. We have suggestions. And mostly just on this board.

All our stuff said is that you have to wear a safety vest.

Next time  I'm running a flight line, I'm going to wear a personal flotation device. As long as it's orange....  >:D >:D

meh, a MK1 Float Coat (below) costs $180 and the closet to orange is buying a white one and dying it. Not worth it (to me) for the joke. But if you want to get out there in a regular old sterns (2nd pic) have fun, mine as well wear a C-Collar, 15 sweaters, and put a vice around your "man parts" and try to direct A/C.

(http://images.military.com/pics/SoldierTech_Float-4.jpg) (http://images.military.com/pics/SoldierTech_Float-2.jpg)
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: Stonewall on April 09, 2008, 02:57:07 PM
I finally found mine, the one we wore at my squadron in DCWG (DC-053).  $29.99 from Galls and it doesn't identify us as something we're not, nor does it scream "CIVIL AIR PATROL".  I'm all about advertising, in a recruiting sense, but in the line of duty, such as at scene, I'd rather not be soooo distinctive.  I know, sounds rather paranoidish, but that's me.  Doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

(http://captalk.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3759.0;attach=1820)
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: Stonewall on April 09, 2008, 09:20:36 PM
Looking at Galls (http://www.galls.com/style.html?assort=general_catalog&style=EV004&cat=3157), I found this little piece of gear.  Fairly inexpensive and seems somewhat practical.

(http://www.galls.com/jpegs/128593.jpg)

Comes in orange, blue and lime green.

$69.99
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: BigMojo on April 09, 2008, 09:33:58 PM
I have that vest...it fits a lot of gear in it. If you watch ebay, they come up for 39.99 every now and again. Its vinyl lined, so it's a bit warm here in S.Florida, but very functional.
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: isuhawkeye on April 09, 2008, 10:26:58 PM
 Within EMS in my area that particular item has been identified with some of the more unprofessional, yet eager volunteer entities
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: Stonewall on April 09, 2008, 11:27:53 PM
Quote from: isuhawkeye on April 09, 2008, 10:26:58 PM
...some of the more unprofessional, yet eager volunteer entities....

We call'em squirrels...

(http://captalk.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3759.0;attach=1821)
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: isuhawkeye on April 10, 2008, 02:08:13 AM
I love it.  That is totally going on my website
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: 0 on April 10, 2008, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: Stonewall on April 09, 2008, 11:27:53 PM
Quote from: isuhawkeye on April 09, 2008, 10:26:58 PM
...some of the more unprofessional, yet eager volunteer entities....

We call'em squirrels...

(http://captalk.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3759.0;attach=1821)


That's Brilliant!!
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: Trouble on April 17, 2008, 04:32:20 AM
Quote from: isuhawkeye on April 09, 2008, 10:26:58 PM
Within EMS in my area that particular item has been identified with some of the more unprofessional, yet eager volunteer entities

Really?   

I just picked up a similar vest, the Ferno Responder II - mesh in Red. I plan to add some retro reflective tape to the pockets and see if I can't get some local stitch witch to add a Molle/Pals panel on each side, along with internal loops for a waist belt. I think for CAP those kind of vests are what we should be using, seems to be a Tactical Medic vest only in Bright colors.  I'll post some pics once I have the vest up to speed.
Title: Re: CAP SAFETY VESTS
Post by: isuhawkeye on April 17, 2008, 12:29:00 PM
Quotereally"

Yup