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General Discussion => Uniforms & Awards => Topic started by: flyguy06 on January 07, 2008, 03:31:25 PM

Title: Question about the Service Hat
Post by: flyguy06 on January 07, 2008, 03:31:25 PM
Ok, so I got promoted to MAJ a few weeks ago right before encampment. I bought the Service Hat (Thats the round bus driver looking hat) from an Army-Navy store for a whooping $85( I couldnt believe it was that muc for a used hat) It had the silver chin strap and I assumed it was because it was a field grade officers hat.

So fast forward to parade day at the encampment, The Region CC attended wearing his Service hat. he had a black chin strap. So now I am wondering who is correct. For a minute I thought maybe the silver strap was for honor gurad people. But who ver heard of a Filed Grade officer on an honor guard?

So my question is for a Field Grade officer service hat do I wear the black chin strap or the silver chin strap?
Title: Re: Question about the Service Hat
Post by: Stonewall on January 07, 2008, 03:37:05 PM
I don't know about the silver braid, but I do know that I would have spent $85 on something more important, like ammo, shoe laces, McDonald's, or the 4th season of CSI: Miami.

Here's a pic of some AF officers with Honor Guard in the back.  Compare the hats.
(http://www.afdw.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/060609-F-6875C-040.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about the Service Hat
Post by: MIKE on January 07, 2008, 03:37:50 PM
Do you wear the AF-style uniform, or the Corporate Uniform (TPU)?  AF-style = black. Corporate = silver.
Title: Re: Question about the Service Hat
Post by: flyguy06 on January 07, 2008, 03:38:37 PM
Hey, I like the rouind hat better than the flight cap.
Title: Re: Question about the Service Hat
Post by: flyguy06 on January 07, 2008, 03:39:45 PM
Quote from: MIKE on January 07, 2008, 03:37:50 PM
Do you wear the AF-style uniform, or the Corporate Uniform (TPU)?  AF-style = black. Corporate = silver.

I am a fit and trimmilitary officer. I only wear military uniforms. But I bought the hat at an Army navy store. So it is a legitimate USAF Hat. So why did it have a silver chin strap
Title: Re: Question about the Service Hat
Post by: flyguy06 on January 07, 2008, 03:40:59 PM
Quote from: Stonewall on January 07, 2008, 03:37:05 PM
I don't know about the silver braid, but I do know that I would have spent $85 on something more important, like ammo, shoe laces, McDonald's, or the 4th season of CSI: Miami.

Here's a pic of some AF officers with Honor Guard in the back.  Compare the hats.
(http://www.afdw.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/060609-F-6875C-040.jpg)
Ok, thanks. So I guess I was wrong. I 'm not to big toadmit it. I just wonder where this hat came from.
Title: Re: Question about the Service Hat
Post by: LtCol White on January 07, 2008, 04:10:13 PM
If you're a major, did u get the hat with the farts & darts? All USAF service hats should have the black chinstrap.
Title: Re: Question about the Service Hat
Post by: BillB on January 07, 2008, 04:49:35 PM
At base clothings sales that hat sels for $49.
Title: Re: Question about the Service Hat
Post by: Pylon on January 07, 2008, 05:06:44 PM
...and $52.95 from AAFES by Phone for CAP members.  Gotta shop around.

As for the chin strap, I have always seen it as a black strap for AF field-grade and general officers.  However, as was pointed out above, for Civil Air Patrol's purposes:

Corporate Service Uniform = silver strap
AF-style service uniform = black strap
Title: Re: Question about the Service Hat
Post by: Stonewall on January 07, 2008, 05:31:06 PM
Quote from: flyguy06 on January 07, 2008, 03:31:25 PMI bought the Service Hat (Thats the round bus driver looking hat) from an Army-Navy store for a whooping $85( I couldnt believe it was that muc for a used hat).

And I thought you got ripped off before I read this...

Quote from: Pylon on January 07, 2008, 05:06:44 PM
...and $52.95 from AAFES by Phone for CAP members.  Gotta shop around.

(http://captalk.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3976.0;attach=1503)

Trust me.  You do not need the service cap.  You may want it, but you do not need it.
Title: Re: Question about the Service Hat
Post by: lordmonar on January 08, 2008, 12:19:32 AM
The silver chin strap may have been because it was an Honor Guard or band hat.
Title: Re: Question about the Service Hat
Post by: Hawk200 on January 08, 2008, 02:23:10 AM
Quote from: lordmonar on January 08, 2008, 12:19:32 AM
The silver chin strap may have been because it was an Honor Guard or band hat.

I remember back in the days when there was an AFR 35-10, a silver chinstrap was worn with the semi-formal uniform, if the member chose to wear the headgear. Not many people even knew it was even authorized, I only knew because I read 35-10, cover to cover, several times in a row so I wouldn't miss anything.

I don't know anyone that ever wore a hat with semi-formal, but it was never an option that appeared in the AFI 36-2903.
Title: Re: Question about the Service Hat
Post by: ddelaney103 on January 08, 2008, 04:29:27 AM
HG officers, bands and Arlington chaplains wear the cap with the silver strap.

Since those things come right off, it might be a mod for a play of something.

Just say no to (amazingly overpriced) bus driver's hats.