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Started by Laplace, June 03, 2019, 12:26:23 PM

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HandsomeWalt_USMC

Quote from: Dwight Dutton on June 12, 2019, 02:16:18 PM
Quote from: GroundHawg on June 10, 2019, 01:20:11 PM
Quote from: LATORRECA on June 09, 2019, 09:27:50 PMAre the ultrathin really worth it. I mean I been in the CAP for a while and the service (never mix the ribbons). Never use it, are not the same of a ribbon rack well put together. My opinion.
Not a fan of them honestly. I have not had good dealings with their customer service, and that combined with the overall expense, rules them out for me.
I hope you have better luck.


I just tried their system to put together what a complete rack would be on a blues uniform - and it puts the AFOEA above the National Defense Service Medal (??).

Granted anything military goes above anything CAP, but within that rule, anything with a medal goes above anything that's just a ribbon.  That arrangement doesn't follow anyone's regs.

I have two ribbon only awards from the Marine Corps, Combat Action Ribbon and Navy  Unit Commendation, that are both higher in precedence than all of my medals except for one. There are plenty of mid-placed ribbon only awards across multiple services that are placed higher than service and campaign medals.

The AFOEA awarded to CAP has a strange CAP specific wear instruction for CAP uniforms that places it behind all other military awards and ahead of all CAP awards. Jester's solution is a good workaround if you're ordering from milthin.

I make my own thin ribbon and medal racks, so it's a non-issue for me. I know at least one person on the board has asked for photos and directions on how I build mine, when I get a little more time on my hands I will put together a tutorial.
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Quote from: HandsomeWalt_USMC on June 12, 2019, 04:16:58 PM
The AFOEA awarded to CAP has a strange CAP specific wear instruction for CAP uniforms that places it behind all other military awards and ahead of all CAP awards. Jester's solution is a good workaround if you're ordering from milthin.

And aren't yhou supposed to wear it twice if you earned it in the USAF?

(The fact that ~50% of the adult membership can't wear it at all notwithstanding of course.)

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GroundHawg

Quote from: Dwight Dutton on June 12, 2019, 02:16:18 PM
Quote from: GroundHawg on June 10, 2019, 01:20:11 PM
Quote from: LATORRECA on June 09, 2019, 09:27:50 PMAre the ultrathin really worth it. I mean I been in the CAP for a while and the service (never mix the ribbons). Never use it, are not the same of a ribbon rack well put together. My opinion.
Not a fan of them honestly. I have not had good dealings with their customer service, and that combined with the overall expense, rules them out for me.
I hope you have better luck.


I just tried their system to put together what a complete rack would be on a blues uniform - and it puts the AFOEA above the National Defense Service Medal (??).

Granted anything military goes above anything CAP, but within that rule, anything with a medal goes above anything that's just a ribbon.  That arrangement doesn't follow anyone's regs.

They also list Coast Guard Meritorious Team as an AUX ribbon for some reason.   The AUX can be awarded it, but it is an actual USCG ribbon.

In the CAP list of ribbons there are about a half dozen ones that don't have names that I don't recognize.  Precedence seems to put these on either side of the Red Service Ribbon.  I thought at first maybe historical awards, but they would still have a name.  What is ribbon C29A?  Is Ribbon C47 for DC-3 pilots?

There are probably 20 military awards that are listed as "not authorized in the selected order of precedence", none of the DOT, USPHS, NOAA, NASA, or Merchant Marines awards are showing as authorized, all foreign awards are being placed above CAP awards, and a few of them are showing as not allowed as well.

While fooling around with their site it did bring to light an interesting scenario that I had never thought about before. It is allowing different NATO and UN ribbons to be worn instead of picking one and adding attachments.


GaryVC

Quote from: Eclipse on June 12, 2019, 04:47:18 PM
Quote from: HandsomeWalt_USMC on June 12, 2019, 04:16:58 PM
The AFOEA awarded to CAP has a strange CAP specific wear instruction for CAP uniforms that places it behind all other military awards and ahead of all CAP awards. Jester's solution is a good workaround if you're ordering from milthin.

And aren't yhou supposed to wear it twice if you earned it in the USAF?

(The fact that ~50% of the adult membership can't wear it at all notwithstanding of course.)

Yes. That would apply to me but I have too many ribbons to wear anything but my AF decorations.

PHall

Quote from: GaryVC on June 12, 2019, 09:40:35 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 12, 2019, 04:47:18 PM
Quote from: HandsomeWalt_USMC on June 12, 2019, 04:16:58 PM
The AFOEA awarded to CAP has a strange CAP specific wear instruction for CAP uniforms that places it behind all other military awards and ahead of all CAP awards. Jester's solution is a good workaround if you're ordering from milthin.

And aren't yhou supposed to wear it twice if you earned it in the USAF?

(The fact that ~50% of the adult membership can't wear it at all notwithstanding of course.)

Yes. That would apply to me but I have too many ribbons to wear anything but my AF decorations.

That's why I don't wear any of my military ribbons on my CAP uniform. Too many and I'm too cheap!

baronet68

Quote from: PHall on June 12, 2019, 09:47:28 PM
That's why I don't wear any of my military ribbons on my CAP uniform. Too many and I'm too cheap!

I used to wear my Army ribbons on my CAP uniform but I no longer mix-and-match. 

While I'm very proud of my Army service, it is a CAP uniform so wearing only my CAP ribbons makes sense.
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THRAWN

Quote from: baronet68 on June 13, 2019, 07:28:38 PM
Quote from: PHall on June 12, 2019, 09:47:28 PM
That's why I don't wear any of my military ribbons on my CAP uniform. Too many and I'm too cheap!

I used to wear my Army ribbons on my CAP uniform but I no longer mix-and-match. 

While I'm very proud of my Army service, it is a CAP uniform so wearing only my CAP ribbons makes sense.

That attitude will get you nowhere.
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Quote from: THRAWN on June 13, 2019, 07:46:57 PMThat attitude will get you nowhere.

Yeah, we have no use for common sense!

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