Feik Award?

[Chappie]

I like my theories better.

All I know is that she was signing something for them ....and I definitely like your theories  :clap:

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Or maybe the local squadron produced a certificate........

She produced her own certificate that she gives out as a sort of commemorative thing, not as an official CAP certificate.

[Chappie]

Or maybe the local squadron produced a certificate........

She produced her own certificate that she gives out as a sort of commemorative thing, not as an official CAP certificate.

Okay...I wasn't going daffy after all    I knew it was an "official" looking type of paper and wasn't the paper napkin at the banquet or their forehead - LOL

[CAP Producer]

Or maybe the local squadron produced a certificate........

She produced her own certificate that she gives out as a sort of commemorative thing, not as an official CAP certificate.

She does this at most wing conferences she goes to. Mary presents a personally signed certificate to the Feik Recipients of  that particular wing. It's actually a very nice certificate and a real collector's item. I saw her do that at 2 conferences and it was very moving. She also gives a terrific history presentation. And she is a great hugger! 

[Nathan]

I would just have to imagine that the member in question who corrected Mary Feik on wearing an achievement she hadn't "earned" had not earned the award either.

I mean... honestly... it's the Feik achievement... I would bet that she could WRITE that test.

[Flying Pig]

There is a serious disconnect with reality involved.  Good thing Neil Armstrong didnt show up!

[Ranger75]

Until I made the move to Wing Hqs, I was a member of the Annapolis Composite Squadron, MDWG, Mary's home squadron.  At her own expense, Mary has produced a presentation certificate recognizing accomplishment of the Feik achievement.  At every turn, Mary takes the opportunity to personally present the certificate to eligible cadets.  Although I completed the cadet program many years before the establishment of the Feik achievement, my personally signed Feik certificate is proudly displayed alongside my Spaatz Award certificate in my office at Wing HQs.  One word of caution, presentation of the certificate obliges one to engage in a warm hug with one of aviation's true living legends, an obligation I was honored to forfill.  In my years associated with CAP, only Jack Sorenson, the father of the modern cadet program, could stand in the same rank with Mary in devotion to the cadets of CAP. 

[Rotorhead]

I don't believe it happened for the simple reason that I don't believe there are any senior members out there that would recognize this award. 

I don't believe it because I have yet to see substantiation of it actually happening.

It's a rumor until we hear who said it, and at what event it was said. Until then, everyone's just getting all riled up over a story someone heard.

[Flying Pig]

Well, this is the same CAP who has a "very respected" IC who told me helicopters were useless in SAR!  So nothing surprises me.

[davedove]

Until I made the move to Wing Hqs, I was a member of the Annapolis Composite Squadron, MDWG, Mary's home squadron.  At her own expense, Mary has produced a presentation certificate recognizing accomplishment of the Feik achievement.  At every turn, Mary takes the opportunity to personally present the certificate to eligible cadets.  Although I completed the cadet program many years before the establishment of the Feik achievement, my personally signed Feik certificate is proudly displayed alongside my Spaatz Award certificate in my office at Wing HQs.  One word of caution, presentation of the certificate obliges one to engage in a warm hug with one of aviation's true living legends, an obligation I was honored to forfill.  In my years associated with CAP, only Jack Sorenson, the father of the modern cadet program, could stand in the same rank with Mary in devotion to the cadets of CAP. 

Right, because she's local, we invite her to our squadron, Frederick Composite Squadron, MDWG, about once a year.  She always brings a supply of the certificates and personally awards them to the cadets who have earned the award since her last visit.

[Major Carrales]

I am saddened by the prospect the living legends, Like Feik, would be so disgraced with such questionalbe behavior by our officers.

I would assume that Mary Feik has given CAP permisson to use her name on a CAP achievement, not the other way around.  If anyone has the right to wear it is is the honoree.  In fact, I would present her with it officially.

By the way, Capt Chuck Corway has produced a Mary Feik certificate.  It is a nice gesture for a Commander to provide their cadet with some documentation, be it not official, it will at least insure they know when they complete the award.

[Gunner C]

There are ways to handle someone not wearing the uniform correctly and obviously they didn't use one of them.  Where are the uniform nazis?  A SM is allowed to wear one lapel pin on their blazer, she wears about six.  The regulation doesn't allow for ribbons to be worn on the blazer.

Col Feik is an aviation pioneer and a great person - I've spent time with her several times all over the country.  But a colonel has an obligation to follow the uniform regulations and set an example.  The problem is the way the idiot went about it.  As happends too often, a CAP officer sticks their nose where they shouldn't and ends up with their head stuck in a dark, warm place.

Flame away.

[JayT]

I have a question.

Where did this happen?

When did it happen?

What Wing?

What conference?

Who were the officers involved?

Ya'll are up in arms about something that may of not even happened........

[Gunner C]

True dat.

[billford1]

I met Mary Feik  at our Wing Conference last Spring where she  presented the endorsed award certificate to a number of Cadets. I have a hard time understanding why some Cadet or zealous SM would confront and humiliate her in such a way if in fact it happened. The National Vice Commander and some AF brass were also there at our wing conference. I know that Mary Feik is a recognized aviation pioneer. For anyone to treat her in such a way is an outrage. If you see someone wearing an award that you think they didn't earn don't assume it's your place to correct what you perceive as their violation. You may not have enough information. If I were the Wing Commander at that event I would have exacted a personal apology from that individual to Mary Feik. She does not have to be as nice as she is in traveling to make a personal appearance to reward our Cadets.

[RiverAux]

Sad that this unverified rumor will be floating around CAP forever now that it has been posted here. 

[Rotorhead]

Sad that this unverified rumor will be floating around CAP forever now that it has been posted here. 

Yes, it is, because people will use the old, "I heard..." for years now (just as they are on this thread) when spreading this story that may not even have happened at all.

[Major Carrales]

Sad that this unverified rumor will be floating around CAP forever now that it has been posted here. 

Yes, it is, because people will use the old, "I heard..." for years now (just as they are on this thread) when spreading this story that may not even have happened at all.

I told RiverAux in PM that the old saying "I read/heard it in two different places so it must be true" no longer applies in cyberspace.

I would not be suprised if someone said the rumor as an "example" of a faux pas and the resulting misunderstanding due to "skimming" or "half hearted reading" turned it into a "truth."