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Feik Award?

Started by Flying Pig, February 17, 2009, 06:42:55 PM

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Flying Pig

I heard a nasty rumor that a Cadet or Senior Member asked Mary Feik to remove the CAP Feik award/ medal from her coat because she hadnt actually earned it?  I read it on a thread here in CAPTalk and was going to ask if that actually happened?  I looked but couldnt find the thread. 

jimmydeanno

I made the comment in another thread.  I have just heard it as rumor, but the person that told it to me is pretty credible (someone that I'd trust my life to).

It was told to me as she was in attendance at a CAP conference when some over zealous SM pointed out that she shouldn't wear it because she "hadn't earned it."

Being the lady that she is simply apologized and removed it.

If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

dwb

"No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously." -- Anonymous

Eclipse

#3
I have no doubt whatsoever that some of our more...um...well...less...er...politically savvy members are capable of behavior like that - assuming its true, kudos to Ms. Feik for simply moving on.

That's the kind of thing that should generate a pointed "what were you thinking?" conversation with the member, she is, after all, the living embodiment of the award, which is basically the point.

Good thing it wasn't Buzz Aldrin!   ;D   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOo6aHSY8hU

"That Others May Zoom"

Chappie

If that is true....then the SM in question should be reprimended and made to apologize to Mary Feik.   I have had the great privilege of meeting her, working with her and had the wonderful pleasure of visiting the Evergreen Aviation Museum in McMinnville with her during the '08 PCR Conference (which I must say was definitely a highlight in my CAP career).   Mary is one of the most personable and gracious people that I know.  I am glad to know that it was not a cadet...for that would have been a source of personal hurt.  I have witnessed the way she interacts with cadets...she adores them and they adore her.  

She may not have met the requirements for "receiving" the award --- but she has more than earned it and the right to wear it.  
Disclaimer:  Not to be confused with the other user that goes by "Chappy"   :)

davidsinn

I'm a reg nazi but I have ZERO problem with Ms. Feik wearing the award named after her. Although it may be overkill but I wouldn't oppose a reg change to authorize it officially. Perhaps that's something we could send up channels to ask Gen. Courter to do?
Former CAP Captain
David Sinn

Pylon

Quote from: davidsinn on February 17, 2009, 07:12:50 PM
I'm a reg nazi but I have ZERO problem with Ms. Feik wearing the award named after her. Although it may be overkill but I wouldn't oppose a reg change to authorize it officially. Perhaps that's something we could send up channels to ask Gen. Courter to do?

Not that it really should matter, but how do we know permission wasn't already granted?   It doesn't need to be published for everybody to see, but it could still have been given.
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

FW

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Quote from: jimmydeanno on February 17, 2009, 06:55:37 PM
I made the comment in another thread.  I have just heard it as rumor, but the person that told it to me is pretty credible (someone that I'd trust my life to).

It was told to me as she was in attendance at a CAP conference when some over zealous SM pointed out that she shouldn't wear it because she "hadn't earned it."

Being the lady that she is simply apologized and removed it.

And her daughter ripped his throat out.... :D >:D

Smithsonia

If this actually occurred then it is a disgrace to the Patrol.

Mary Feik deserves our loyal gratitude for her support of CAP every day. She receives personal calls from CAP cadets routinely about this and that and acts as a mentor, particularly to female cadets. God Bless her! On a similar note... I'd like to get NHQ to award the daughter of Maj. Gen. Curry (Sheila) a Curry Award. She wouldn't have earned it, but she deserves it. That said, I've done nothing yet to make this occur -- But I will soon.

I saw a mother of a medal of honor awardee proudly wear her son's decoration to a patriotic ceremony. She didn't earn it either but her dead son did. For anyone to have taken her to task would have been an insult beyond the pale. Shame on anyone who would take Mary Feik to task for anything under any circumstances. Remember, many Doctorates of Letters (etc) are Awarded by prestigious Universities every year to people who did not earn it but did deserve it. These are deserved awards with ceremonial significance.
With regards;
ED OBRIEN

davidsinn

Quote from: Pylon on February 17, 2009, 07:13:52 PM
Quote from: davidsinn on February 17, 2009, 07:12:50 PM
I'm a reg nazi but I have ZERO problem with Ms. Feik wearing the award named after her. Although it may be overkill but I wouldn't oppose a reg change to authorize it officially. Perhaps that's something we could send up channels to ask Gen. Courter to do?

Not that it really should matter, but how do we know permission wasn't already granted?   It doesn't need to be published for everybody to see, but it could still have been given.

I see your point and agree that it could be true however: Something like that should be publicized due to her great contributions to the program and I would support her being awarded it.
Former CAP Captain
David Sinn

heliodoc

to all above posts

CAP Online 15 Jun 2007 gives a rundown

Probably more experience than most CAP SM's

Somebody shooting off their mouth and once again CAP shot itself in foot

Looks REAAALLLL good folks

TEAM SURGE

Quote from: Chappie on February 17, 2009, 07:08:37 PM
If that is true....then the SM in question should be reprimended and made to apologize to Mary Feik.   I have had the great privilege of meeting her, working with her and had the wonderful pleasure of visiting the Evergreen Aviation Museum in McMinnville with her during the '08 PCR Conference (which I must say was definitely a highlight in my CAP career).   Mary is one of the most personable and gracious people that I know.  I am glad to know that it was not a cadet...for that would have been a source of personal hurt.  I have witnessed the way she interacts with cadets...she adores them and they adore her.  

She may not have met the requirements for "receiving" the award --- but she has more than earned it and the right to wear it.  

Does Mary Feik still go to this every year? I have missed it the last two years. Being the amzing women she is, it would be an honor to meet her.
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Flying Pig

I was hoping the answer was going to be "nasty rumor".  Its sad someone thought so highly of themselves.  i really hope someone has dealt with that member in a swift and violent manner.  Because someone with a complete lack of social awareness of that level will do it again, if not be empowered to rise to higher levels of ass#@%$ness on the next occasion. 

RiverAux

I don't believe it happened for the simple reason that I don't believe there are any senior members out there that would recognize this award. 

Flying Pig

Well, if it was an activity honoring Mary Feik, Im sure it would have been explained.  But again, we can only take the word of someone Jimmy would trust with his life! ;D

Chappie

Quote from: TEAM SURGE on February 17, 2009, 08:31:42 PM
Quote from: Chappie on February 17, 2009, 07:08:37 PM
If that is true....then the SM in question should be reprimended and made to apologize to Mary Feik.   I have had the great privilege of meeting her, working with her and had the wonderful pleasure of visiting the Evergreen Aviation Museum in McMinnville with her during the '08 PCR Conference (which I must say was definitely a highlight in my CAP career).   Mary is one of the most personable and gracious people that I know.  I am glad to know that it was not a cadet...for that would have been a source of personal hurt.  I have witnessed the way she interacts with cadets...she adores them and they adore her.  

She may not have met the requirements for "receiving" the award --- but she has more than earned it and the right to wear it.  

Does Mary Feik still go to this every year? I have missed it the last two years. Being the amzing women she is, it would be an honor to meet her.

This was an unscheduled-spur-of-the-moment-after-breakfast-on-Friday-morning-group outing (gotta love those spur of the moment events).   I know that she is a featured speaker for events held at Evergreen.   She had just been there a few weeks prior.  It was a treat to hang out with her -- and listen to her share about her experiences in some of the planes.  When one of the Curators found out that she was there...we really got the grand tour - LOL.  

If you have received the Feik Award...I do know that several cadets have taken theirs with them to where she is speaking and she has graciously autographed them.
Disclaimer:  Not to be confused with the other user that goes by "Chappy"   :)

Pylon

Quote from: Chappie on February 17, 2009, 11:20:02 PM
If you have received the Feik Award...I do know that several cadets have taken theirs with them to where she is speaking and she has graciously autographed them.

???

Except that there is no such thing as the Feik Award and the cadets receive no paper certificate from National for completing the Feik Achievement.
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

dwb

Maybe she signs the ribbon?  Or the cadet's forehead, like Will Ferrell in Talladega Nights?

JayT

Or maybe the local squadron produced a certificate........
"Eagerness and thrill seeking in others' misery is psychologically corrosive, and is also rampant in EMS. It's a natural danger of the job. It will be something to keep under control, something to fight against."

dwb

I like my theories better.