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Taking Chance

Started by RedFox24, February 12, 2009, 12:29:54 AM

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RedFox24

Thought this might be of interest to the board. 

I did a search and didn't see where anyone else had posted on it yet.  If it was and I didnt search correctly, sorry.

http://www.hbo.com/films/takingchance/




Contrarian and Curmudgeon at Large

"You can tell a member of National Headquarters but you can't tell them much!"

Just say NO to NESA Speak.

James Shaw

Absolutely fantastic!!

Without a witness he has no story!

A great tribute film I will see.
Jim Shaw
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brasda91

 :clap: :clap:

How are those of us that do not subscribe to HBO going to watch this awesome movie?
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jimmydeanno

Maybe they'll put it on Hulu...

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If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

MIKE

Quote from: brasda91 on February 12, 2009, 02:27:13 PM
:clap: :clap:

How are those of us that do not subscribe to HBO going to watch this awesome movie?

They usually are out on DVD pretty soon after airing.
Mike Johnston

winterg

Wow, I was getting farklempt just watching the preview.  :'( Looks like a definate must-see.

Smokey

Based on the trailer, this is a must see.

Just wish I had HBO...guess I will have to wit for the DVD.
If you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything.
To err is human, to blame someone else shows good management skills.


Stonewall

I remember reading this story a year or two ago, very moving.  I don't have HBO either, but that's what friends are for.

"Use your friends wisely" -Garfield
Serving since 1987.

PaulR

This looks like it will be one of Kevin Bacon's finest movies...    I have noticed that many HBO productions have far out classed many movies that make it to the silver screen!!

NIN

Quote from: Stonewall on February 13, 2009, 04:33:32 PM
I remember reading this story a year or two ago, very moving.  I don't have HBO either, but that's what friends are for.

"Use your friends wisely" -Garfield

I'm already working on ways to burn this to DVD.. :)

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maverik

based on a true story huh? glad to know our nation takes care of its own.
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Slim

#12
Quote from: NIN on February 13, 2009, 09:46:03 PM
Quote from: Stonewall on February 13, 2009, 04:33:32 PM
I remember reading this story a year or two ago, very moving.  I don't have HBO either, but that's what friends are for.

"Use your friends wisely" -Garfield

I'm already working on ways to burn this to DVD.. :)

I already have the technology, and my TiVo's already set up to record it.



Slim

bosshawk

I have been retired from the RM a long time, but it seems to me that everyone coming home from a war zone is escorted from Dover AFB to their home of record or burial location by an active duty member.  Seems to me to be a long standing tradition and one that I happen to wholeheartedly support.  The movie apparently makes a point that it is seldom that an officer escorts the remains of an enlisted member, but it does occasionally happen.  I know that I had some guys who served for me whom I would have considered it an honor to escort, if the need had arisen.
Paul M. Reed
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MIKE

Quote from: Slim on February 13, 2009, 11:37:23 PM
I already have the technology, and my TiVo's already set up to record it.

You don't pay a monthly subscription for Windows Media Center though.  >:D  Too bad it's not patched into the box.
Mike Johnston

Slim

Quote from: MIKE on February 14, 2009, 12:30:33 AM
Quote from: Slim on February 13, 2009, 11:37:23 PM
I already have the technology, and my TiVo's already set up to record it.

You don't pay a monthly subscription for Windows Media Center though.  >:D  Too bad it's not patched into the box.

Don't need it.  I've got at DVD recorder in-line between my satellite box on TV.


Slim

Smokey

#16
For those interested....

Lt.Col Mike Strobl, USMC stops by the Editor's Desk to talk about his moving story "Taking Chance" that has been made into an HBO movie starring Kevin Bacon. How did escorting the remains of a fallen warrior change Mike's life? What does he think about the average American's attitude toward the military and national sacrifice?   Below is the link (copy and paste) .

Linky
If you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything.
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NIN

So, those with HBO, this was on last night...

About 10:30, we took a break from playing some cards and I fired up my DVR to watch.

Opinions?  I have mine (it is a relatively positive one, even with all the customs and courtesies and uniform issues I spotted.. *sigh*) but I'm curious to hear what others thought.

(As a student of motion pictures, I rather enjoyed it.. the cinematography & direction were excellent)
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N Harmon

I watched it. I don't recall any C&C or uniform issues, though I wasn't really looking for them. I thought the story was pretty good overall, very heart touching. Certain parts seemed campy like the convoy with everybody's headlights turned on, and the jerk TSA agent for whom Strobl refused to remove his coat. I don't recall those scenes being part of the story. The TSA guys make pretty convenient punching bags too I imagine.

I thought that was Tom Wopat that was playing the part of Chance's father (verified by IMDb).
NATHAN A. HARMON, Capt, CAP
Monroe Composite Squadron

RiverAux

Didn't see the movie, but it is pretty traditional for funeral processions to drive with their headlights on and for other drivers to pull over to the side as they pass.

NIN

Quote from: RiverAux on February 22, 2009, 04:26:24 PM
Didn't see the movie, but it is pretty traditional for funeral processions to drive with their headlights on and for other drivers to pull over to the side as they pass.

This was shown as transporting the remains from the airport to the town (a 5 hr drive) and as people passed the vehicle carrying the remains and spotted the flag-draped coffin, they turned on their lights.

Laster, the funeral "procession" followed a horse drawn wagon (not a caisson) from the memorial service to the cemetery, but in a small town as Dubois is depicted, I believe the distance would have been pretty short.

My issue with uniforms was slight (berets, the fit of Bacon's character's fore-and-aft cap, that kind of thing), customs and courtesies only slightly more (salutes, mostly).  Overall, it was well done, but geez, folks, if you're gonna have a character in a speaking role and he's going to be wearing an Army beret, at least take a couple hrs and shape the darn thing!

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RedFox24

I watched it with my wife, kids, mother and grandparents.  It was excellent.  Most of the family cried almost all the way through.  Thought it was great at telling the story.

Didn't see any of the uniform or what ever problems, wasn't looking and didn't care.  That was not what the movie was about in my opinion.

Quite moving.  I give it a 9 out of 10 stars. 
Contrarian and Curmudgeon at Large

"You can tell a member of National Headquarters but you can't tell them much!"

Just say NO to NESA Speak.

bosshawk

I got into it a bit late, but saw the important parts.  I thought that it was very well done, given that it was Hollywood.  I saw a few tiny details that weren't right, but that is pure Hollywood.  They are the ones that several of you guys have chipped your teeth over: they really aren't important and didn't detract from the story.
Paul M. Reed
Col, USA(ret)
Former CAP Lt Col
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argentip

I also thought that it was very well done.  I thought that Kevin Bacon did an excellent job portraying Lt Col Strobl.  I heard that there was a book as well.  Anyone know if that is true?  The actions of the baggage handlers was very surprising to me.  Most of the time when I am waiting for a flight at the airport, you see them scurrying around trying to get things done as quick as possible so that they can get all the planes loaded and unloaded, but when they all stopped to pay their respects, I thought that was very touching.

I didn't really notice the C&C or uniform issues, but I did notice that the Maj who notified the family looked really young.  I didn't catch his name in the credits (I must've missed it) but there were 2 Majors listed on IMDB and the actors were both roughly 30yrs old.  I thought that seemed a little young.

Overall, I think this is a very good film and a touching tribute to our fallen service members.
Phil Argenti, Col, CAP
GLR-IN-001

NIN

FYI, I've read the original essay, "Taking Chance" written by LtCol Strobel, back when it was first published and also when it was published in "The Blogs Of War." (http://www.blackfive.net/main/2004/04/taking_chance.html)

The story, as written, is nearly precisely what appeared on screen, with the usual Hollywood dramatizations, of course.  (Ask F-14 jocks about the making of Top Gun.. it happens).

BTW, my beef with some of the details is just one of those weird OCD things I have.  Honestly, the *perfect* job for me would be as a member of Capt Dale Dye's Warrior's Inc military advising crew...:)  I catch silly crap with skydiving in movies, too.  Rigs w/o parachutes in them, missing handles, faked hardware, intercutting sport skydiving with military HALO... pretty straightfoward stuff, but again, most of this is "5 minute" stuff: You could have taken 5 minutes to figure this out and do it right..

Overall, however, Taking Chance is a fantastic HBO film.  I loved it.  Just a real tribute.

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Chappie

I'm always wary of how Hollywood would take a story and tweak it to their liking.  Having read the original blog and seeing the movie...I was gratified to see that only a couple of minor things were done that differed -- but the story remained true to form.  All I can say is that I was moved to tears on more than one occasion.  I echo the words of Nin that this movie is a real tribute. 

To all those who serve, have served and to those who have given their "full measure of devotion" words cannot convey my heartfelt gratiude.
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Maj Daniel Sauerwein

I watched it last night and, like many of you, had to wipe away a few tears. It is something that I have noticed as I have gotten older that when I see things similar to this story, or stories of families of fallen vets, I get a bit choked up. Have any of you noticed this in yourselves, especially if you are a military brat, like myself?

Overall, I found this film to be an excellent and wonderful tribute to PFC Phelps and hope that this movie will make many more understand and remember the sacrifices of our service personnel. To all who served and are serving, thank you for that service.
DANIEL SAUERWEIN, Maj, CAP
Squadron Commander
Grand Forks Composite Squadron
North Dakota Wing, Civil Air Patrol

SarDragon

Quote from: 1st Lt Daniel Sauerwein on February 24, 2009, 05:46:53 AM
I watched it last night and, like many of you, had to wipe away a few tears. It is something that I have noticed as I have gotten older that when I see things similar to this story, or stories of families of fallen vets, I get a bit choked up. Have any of you noticed this in yourselves, especially if you are a military brat, like myself?

Overall, I found this film to be an excellent and wonderful tribute to PFC Phelps and hope that this movie will make many more understand and remember the sacrifices of our service personnel. To all who served and are serving, thank you for that service.

Yes.
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bosshawk

I certainly have been known to have shed a tear or three, on occasion.  I certainly did during the movie.  Over the years, I have been asked to make some public presentations about service in Viet Nam and other places.  I seldom make it through the deal without choking up.  Some wise person once told me that it was OK for a grown man to cry: I believe in that 100%.
Paul M. Reed
Col, USA(ret)
Former CAP Lt Col
Wilson #2777

Slim

Quote from: bosshawk on February 24, 2009, 07:31:20 AM
Some wise person once told me that it was OK for a grown man to cry: I believe in that 100%.

+1

I've been known to let go at some pretty inopportune times myself.  During encampment graduations, Wreaths Across America presentations, giving a speech during a 9/11 remembrance ceremony.  And I have absolutely no shame in doing so.

I haven't seen the movie yet.  It's on my DVR at home and I'm at the end of my work weekend (12 on/12 off for four days).  I'm off tomorrow night, and I'm planning on watching it when I get home from my meeting.  Everything I've seen and heard about it tells me it's just like the manuscript (less some essential artistic license). 

We'll see.


Slim

Stonewall

I got choked up a few times. 

I spent 2 1/2 years performing escort duty at the Old Guard.  "Escort duty" for us meant marching in a platoon sized element and escorting the casket from the chapel to the grave site in Arlington National Cemetery.  Only on 2 occasions did I get choked up.

I love military funerals.  Just something about them.
Serving since 1987.

RogueLeader

DVD came out recently, and I saw it when I walked into the shoppette.  I knew that I needed to get it, and it was wonderful.  I had forgotten all about this thread, until I saw it.

I have already done eight funeraesl in  my 11 months Service.  I know I cried more than a few times.

This is a must own.
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DBlair

Walmart, Target, Amazon, and a few other merchants have this DVD available for purchase. I urge everyone to watch this movie, it really is quite moving.
DANIEL BLAIR, Lt Col, CAP
C/Lt Col (Ret) (1990s Era)
Wing Staff / Legislative Squadron Commander

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dbarbee

I missed this thread the first time around. I'm so glad it came back up or I might have never heard about this movie, got it queued up in Netflix now.

Watching the trailers brought back a flood of memories and emotions from when I escorted a fellow sailor and good friend home to central California from Portland, Oregan in the late 80's.

He was killed in a traffic accident but the Navy still rendered him the honor of an escort and military funeral and the emotions and grief of his family were no less.

The respect and dignity shown by the airport employees, baggage handlers, flight crew, and funeral home were nothing less than humbling.

I'm glad to hear the reports that HBO got this movie right and can't wait to see it. (Even though I know I'm going to be bawling like a baby all the way through it!)
Daniel Barbee 2d Lt
CAP Pilot / TMP / MS / MO / MP (Trainee)
Council Oak Senior Squadron Tulsa, OK-125
Okahoma Wing / Southwest Region

bosshawk

Just remember that bawling is OK.
Paul M. Reed
Col, USA(ret)
Former CAP Lt Col
Wilson #2777

Smokey

I picked it up yesterday at Target for $15.  Watched it last night.  Anyone who can watch this and NOT get teary eyed has no soul.

One of the most dignified movies I have seen. 

To escort a fallen warrior is truly an honor.
If you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything.
To err is human, to blame someone else shows good management skills.

Spike

Quote from: Smokey on May 21, 2009, 01:31:20 AM
I picked it up yesterday at Target for $15.  Watched it last night.  Anyone who can watch this and NOT get teary eyed has no soul.

I did not think I would become emotional.....but at the end the parents and family were there in the room.  Brought back personal memories.

Well made story HBO.  Ranks up there with Band of Brothers, Rome, and of course the upcoming HBO miniseries "the Pacific" (read: Band of Brothers but mostly Marines fighting Japanese).  Can't wait.