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Brazilian Civil Air Patrol

Started by sgt erik, June 18, 2008, 08:59:57 AM

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AlphaSigOU

Here's the original Spanish and my translation of the mission of the Colombian CAP:

QuoteQuienes Somos

La  Patrulla  Aérea Civil de Bogotá  es  una organización privada  sin  animo  de  lucro y  de carácter  humanitario ,  con  más  de   años  40 años en servicio,  cuyo objetivo es brindar su experiencia e infraestructura médico -  quirúrgicas  a  las zonas  mas  alejadas  y  pobres  de  Colombia.

Los Voluntarios

Cada uno de sus voluntarios, idóneos en sus prácticas médicas, participan en las actividades de la Patrulla Aérea en forma gratuita.

En el campo médico, el trabajo de anestesiólogos, cirujanos generales, cirujanos plásticos, citólogos, dermatólogos, ginecólogos, oftalmólogos, ortopedistas, otorrinolaringólogos, pediatras y urólogos, al igual que el esfuerzo de odontólogos, nutricionistas, terapistas, psicólogas, enfermeras, instrumentadoras quirúrgicas y optómetras, ayuda a mejorar la calidad de vida de los habitantes de las comunidades atendidas.

Los pilotos son empresarios y profesionales independientes de reconocida experiencia en la aviación, que sin esperar retribución económica alguna, ponen a disposición sus aeronaves para el transporte de los voluntarios y los materiales necesarios a los lugares escogidos como sede de la brigada, y así lograr una excelente asistencia médica.

Brindar una óptima atención a los pacientes es el resultado de una misión que involucra un trabajo desinteresado y en conjunto.

TRANSLATION FOLLOWS

QuoteWho We Are

The Civil Air Patrol of Bogotá is a private, non-profit organization of a humanitarian character with more than 40 years of service, whose objective is to share its medical and surgical infrastructure to the farthest and poorest zones of Colombia.

The Volunteers

Each of its volunteers, skilled in their medical practice, participate in the activities of the CAP for free.

In the medical field, the jobs of anethesiologists, general surgeons, plastic surgeons, cytologists, dermatologists, gynecologists, opthalmologists, orthopedists, ear nose and throat specialists, pediatricians and urologists, as well as the efforts of dentists, nutritionists, therapists, psychhologists, nurses, surgical technicians and optometrists assisting to better the quality of life of the communities we serve.

The pilots are independent entrepreneurs and professionals with recognized experience in aviation, without expecting any economic reward they place themselves and their aircraft for transporting volunteers and material necessary to the chosen locations as the brigade headquarters, thus achieving excellent medical assistance.

Sharing our best attention to our patients is the result of a mission that is thankless but experienced together.
Lt Col Charles E. (Chuck) Corway, CAP
Gill Robb Wilson Award (#2901 - 2011)
Amelia Earhart Award (#1257 - 1982) - C/Major (retired)
Billy Mitchell Award (#2375 - 1981)
Administrative/Personnel/Professional Development Officer
Nellis Composite Squadron (PCR-NV-069)
KJ6GHO - NAR 45040

RiverAux

QuoteMany countries have organizations like our Civil Air Patrol. 
No evidence of that.  There are a tiny handful at best. 

sgt erik

well, I am really sad because I thought we could have a coversation here and discuss what is going on....but some of you dont realize that someone for some reason used your logo and idea about 50 years ago and now some of you wants to blame all the members for what happened... it could work out without any kind of offence. I really want to find out what happened but with your help and I think some of you too.    I am brazilian and I am not going to tolerate any kind of offence. owing to that if you keep offending us. I will consider this topic over for me. From now, any questions write to the following address, in english, I am sure the commander will answer you all in english.....

gabinete@pacbrasil.org.br

I will be around ......
unless some of you start being polite...

jimmydeanno

Quote from: sgt erik on June 19, 2008, 02:24:58 PM
well, I am really sad because I thought we could have a coversation here and discuss what is going on....but some of you dont realize that someone for some reason used your logo and idea about 50 years ago and now some of you wants to blame all the members for what happened... it could work out without any kind of offence. I really want to find out what happened but with your help and I think some of you too.    I am brazilian and I am not going to tolerate any kind of offence. owing to that if you keep offending us. I will consider this topic over for me. From now, any questions write to the following address, in english, I am sure the commander will answer you all in english.....

gabinete@pacbrasil.org.br

I will be around ......
unless some of you start being polite...


Sgt Erik,

I can understand your frustration with some of the conversation as I'm sure some of it wasn't what you expected.  However, the best thing about forums is that you aren't obligated to reply to the posts you don't like.

I appreciate you coming here and trying to start a conversation regarding the BCAP.  I do hope that you stay around and participate in our discussions and ask questions.

I have some questions regarding BCAP that I haven't been able to get from the website.

1) What is their actual mission or purpose?

2) How many members of the organization are there?

3) Does the BCAP provide service to the entire country of Brazil or is it limited to specific regions?

4) Is there any documentation in the form of regulations or training manuals that can be found online?

5) How is the organization structured in terms of units (are they locally manned, regional, etc).

Thank you for your consideration.
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

JohnKachenmeister

I looked up their website one time.  Their CAP looks like a cross between our CAP and the Welfare Dept.  They apparently spend a lot of their time distributing food to the poor.

I don't think (I may be wrong, here) that Brazil has an extensive general aviation community to draw pilots and airplanes from, and I don't think the BCAP serves as a part of the Brazilian Air Force.

If I'm wrong here, feel free to correct me.
Another former CAP officer

sgt erik

ok, I am going to answer all the question and those that I dont know, I will get in touch with bcap second commander to get the answer. I wiil do my best, even why I am typing from my pocket pc. Well, I have to work now, wnen I come back, I start answering the questions. I will also send those questions and those previous problems we had here to bcap headquarter.
see you...

wingnut55

Sgt erik

Hang in there Buddy, educating people can be difficult, but I have enjoyed your link , it has more depth than many of these yahoo (I want another Medal) discussions. What many people don't realize is Brazil and Mexico were active allies in WW2 and flew squadrons in the war. I for one have a sense of camaraderie with any international organization like ours, because Like our CAP, I bet Brazils  has the same type of characters, human is human. However, Brazilian Aviation is Tops in production, I know our airlines love the Brazilian small jet transports.

Major Carrales

#27
Quote from: wingnut55 on June 20, 2008, 10:49:20 AM
Sgt erik

Hang in there Buddy, educating people can be difficult, but I have enjoyed your link , it has more depth than many of these yahoo (I want another Medal) discussions. What many people don't realize is Brazil and Mexico were active allies in WW2 and flew squadrons in the war. I for one have a sense of camaraderie with any international organization like ours, because Like our CAP, I bet Brazils  has the same type of characters, human is human. However, Brazilian Aviation is Tops in production, I know our airlines love the Brazilian small jet transports.

Wow, I lost track of this thread but it looks like...with the insulating effect of a few years, that some offense was to be had here. 

Could it have been that we were all somehow jaundiced by all the affairs of scanal back in the run up to these threads that we trampled an "olive branch?"

Functioning Website...
http://www.cnpac.org.br/index.html
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

Earhart1971

#28
Quote from: AlphaSigOU on June 19, 2008, 02:09:51 AM
Australian CAP - strictly search and rescue; cadink program is part of the Australian Air Force Cadets

http://www.auscap.org.au/ - AusCAP
http://www.aafc.org.au/hqaafc/ - AAFC

There is an organization in Colombia that calls itself 'Patrulla Aerea Civil' but their mission (from what I gleaned from their Spanish-only website) is strictly along the lines of medical air transport; something like Angel Flight.

http://patrullaerea.org/ - Patrulla Aerea Civil de Bogota (in Spanish only - I'm fluent in Spanish and understand Portuguese, Italian and French, as they are linguistically similar. I don't speak them as well as Spanish, though.)

As I surfed the internet one night at Morgan Stanley Trading years ago, I found an Austrialian White Paper on the U.S. Civil Air Patrol. I remember the one quote, and it might have been the Austrialian War College. Its said the CAP was the best Cadet Program in the World.

I have to agree, it really is the best Cadet Program, bar none.


hatentx

 ;D ;D ;DSo can we start doing country exchange programs???  haha I will take Iraq if they have one maybe I can  do my PD while I am deployed ;D ;D ;D

I actualy wonder in all seriousness what we can learn from other countries CAP type organisastion.  I really think the is something National should track and work with.  Maybe someone else has a break through on some training or anything that could be great for the international CAP comunity to know.

JohnKachenmeister

"Mr. President, there are two Brazilian Civil Air Patrol members to see you."


"I don't have the time, have them come back tomorrow.  How may people is a 'brazilian,' anyway?"

;D
Another former CAP officer

Al Sayre

I did a presentation to the Bolivian Civil Air Patrol last year.  They were hear as part of an exchange program with the MS Nat'l Guard.  Very nice folks, they are interested in using our program as a model for theirs.
Lt Col Al Sayre
MS Wing Staff Dude
Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska
GRW #2787

Orville_third

There's a CAP-like organization in the UK (It even has one or more 182's- and a Gippsland):
http://www.skywatchcivilairpatrol.org.uk/index.html
According to their website, they have links with us.

Perhaps CAP can help put together something like the International Maritime Rescue Federation for CAP-like organizations.

http://www.international-maritime-rescue.org/
Captain Orville Eastland, CAP
Squadron Historian
Public Affairs Officer
Greenville Composite Squadron
SC Wing

JC004

I'd been wondering what became of these people since it has been so long.  I did a search.  They have stopped using the Civil Air Patrol website that they ENTIRELY STOLE, but I found this page.  Now they have not only stolen CAP's seal, website, and aircraft pictures (photoshopped), but they've stolen our MEMBERS AND PHOTOSHOPPED THEM!

http://brigadaaeroruralcivil.blogspot.com/

jimmydeanno

Quote from: JC004 on July 28, 2011, 01:17:02 AM
I'd been wondering what became of these people since it has been so long.  I did a search.  They have stopped using the Civil Air Patrol website that they ENTIRELY STOLE, but I found this page.  Now they have not only stolen CAP's seal, website, and aircraft pictures (photoshopped), but they've stolen our MEMBERS AND PHOTOSHOPPED THEM!

http://brigadaaeroruralcivil.blogspot.com/

Actually, not very cool.  They decided to use my wife...
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

JC004

#35
GAH! REALLY?!  I figured we'd find someone we knew...

Do let me know how she likes her new insignia?  These people are nuts.  They couldn't just steal the seal or something....no - they have to steal our airplanes and members!

Майор Хаткевич

#36
...and Pilot wings at the bottom...

Though, I've worn grey and whites before, but never got this:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xaFhC66rlcA/SrBoZOn9kEI/AAAAAAAAAJc/ds9LsFgwiMc/s1600-h/Festa+183+Limeira+Meninas.jpg

...must be the black pants. Yea, that has to be it...

P.S.

Fake testimonial if I ever saw one:

QuoteVisualizar meu perfil completo       02/10/2009    [size=85%]From[/size]
[size=85%]USA Overseas[/size]
[size=85%]To
General Commandant of
BRIGADA AEREA CIVIL[/size]
Dears Sirs We very much appreciate information off your organization In Brazil. Congratulations for your excellent humanitary services report. We were impressed seing how much people can do when they put their mind in it.We feel honored to know you were inspired by the Civil Air Patrol U.S. We appreciated it so very much.
Congratulations also by the creative and beautiful logo of the Brigade.
We hope you will keep doing this great job.


Best Regards
David Smith

Eclipse

Quote from: jimmydeanno on July 28, 2011, 01:31:43 AM
Actually, not very cool.  They decided to use my wife...



Which one is she?

This is the funniest thing I've seen in a long time.  I bet the whole org is those just those two dudes in the middle.  Even the patch on the guy on the right looks like a sticker!

"That Others May Zoom"

JC004

#38
I thought the girls were some kind of Brazilian Hooters girls but I just saw the wings.  I'm not sure I want to know.

I love the line "Congratulations also by the creative and beautiful logo of the Brigade."  OUR LOGO!  OUR PROP, FROM OUR CIVIL DEFENSE.  OUR 13 STARS, REPRESENTING OUR 13 ORIGINAL STATES.  OUR EAGLE AND SHIELD FROM OUR AIR FORCE.  OUR COMMUNICATIONS PATCH ON THIS PARTICULAR LOGO VERSION. 

I'm a little confused by the difference between this logo and the other one they have.  Plus they have OUR wings and OUR cadets/senior members.

http://twitter.com/CNPAC/status/26039922221649921

http://patrulhaaereabrasil.wordpress.com/2011/03/20/11/

AirDX

Quote from: jimmydeanno on July 28, 2011, 01:31:43 AM


Actually, not very cool.  They decided to use my wife...

Use the "Report Abuse" link at the top of the page.  Blogspot is Google is a US company.  I'm sure you can get some action taken.
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