Anyone have any predictions as to when we might see the Crisis Service Ribbon pop up on UT?
Vanguard got them pretty fast, which I'm assuming was arranged before the ribbon's release/announcement. My guess is that it's a matter of getting the ribbon fabric.
Looking to get my rack updated in the next month. Then again, I'm sure I'll need a new rack about two days after I order one.
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on January 25, 2022, 06:17:09 PMAnyone have any predictions as to when we might see the Crisis Service Ribbon pop up on UT?
Vanguard got them pretty fast, which I'm assuming was arranged before the ribbon's release/announcement. My guess is that it's a matter of getting the ribbon fabric.
Looking to get my rack updated in the next month. Then again, I'm sure I'll need a new rack about two days after I order one.
Have you contacted them and asked them directly? They seem to be nice people. They probably won't bite!
Quote from: PHall on January 25, 2022, 06:27:08 PMQuote from: TheSkyHornet on January 25, 2022, 06:17:09 PMAnyone have any predictions as to when we might see the Crisis Service Ribbon pop up on UT?
Vanguard got them pretty fast, which I'm assuming was arranged before the ribbon's release/announcement. My guess is that it's a matter of getting the ribbon fabric.
Looking to get my rack updated in the next month. Then again, I'm sure I'll need a new rack about two days after I order one.
Have you contacted them and asked them directly? They seem to be nice people. They probably won't bite!
I have not. Just getting my bearings before I reach out and bug people at their paying job :P
I had my rack thin-mounted years ago at a small shop outside March ARB. Nice guy, but he didn't have CAP ribbons, so I handed him a baggie with my CAP ribbons. He was happy, and I'm still extremely happy with the results.
Judging by the photos of General Phelka in DC, UltraThin already has the Crisis Service ribbon in stock.
Quote from: Mustang on February 24, 2022, 09:29:12 PMJudging by the photos of General Phelka in DC, UltraThin already has the Crisis Service ribbon in stock.
Not seeing it:
https://scontent.fpit1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/274293886_316827980488711_4316817712567024362_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=M-cCiMU2e18AX90PZqY&tn=k84S-y05odJxpB-p&_nc_ht=scontent.fpit1-1.fna&oh=00_AT_SS_Y2dk-lVkBpDA3TFgLtJ0Bk9NTa4Un82hWjBbR4OA&oe=621C857C
Quote from: Mustang on February 24, 2022, 09:29:12 PMJudging by the photos of General Phelka in DC, UltraThin already has the Crisis Service ribbon in stock.
It's in. I ordered mine on Jan 31, had it by Feb 7.
The ultrathin Crisis Service Ribbon is in. Ordered mine on Jan 31, had it by Feb 7.
Quote from: Eclipse on February 24, 2022, 10:44:03 PMQuote from: TheSkyHornet on February 24, 2022, 10:19:24 PMNot seeing it:
(https://i.postimg.cc/vT7ckNv9/csr.jpg)
Ah, it looks totally different in the photo than what I saw.
I'm also colorblind. So that's my M.O. for not seeing shtuff.
Ultrathin does not have the crisis action ribbon yet, but Vanguard's US Military Medals division does at about twice the cost of Ultrathin.
Quote from: PHall on February 25, 2022, 01:05:36 AMUltrathin does not have the crisis action ribbon yet, but Vanguard's US Military Medals division does at about twice the cost of Ultrathin.
My thoughts as well.
I was copying my McChord builder over to UT as well. The Crisis Service Ribbon is not even listed in the text code.
VG shows the Crisis Service mini medal in stock as well, but they don't have a photo up yet.
Quote from: Capt Thompson on February 25, 2022, 03:48:51 AMVG shows the Crisis Service mini medal in stock as well, but they don't have a photo up yet.
Vanguard's Rack builder is jacked up. At least three mistakes I found.
1. It puts the AFOEA in the Military Order of Precedence and NOT after all Military Awards and before all CAP awards. It also Doesn't allow for two AFOEAs if you have one for Military Service and one for CAP Service.
2. It puts National Guard awards BEFORE CAP awards. That's not authorized, but if it were the Order of Precedence would put them AFTER CAP awards.
3. It puts Foreign Awards BEFORE CAP awards and not after.
Also, they don't have the DHS Outstanding Unit Award available yet.
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on February 25, 2022, 01:31:01 AMQuote from: PHall on February 25, 2022, 01:05:36 AMUltrathin does not have the crisis action ribbon yet, but Vanguard's US Military Medals division does at about twice the cost of Ultrathin.
My thoughts as well.
I was copying my McChord builder over to UT as well. The Crisis Service Ribbon is not even listed in the text code.
I won't be able to update the McChord Rack Builder until UT adds the Crisis Service Ribbon to their builder. I don't have any relationship with UT so I'm at the mercy of waiting for them to update their site so I can find out what their code is for that ribbon. :(
Quote from: Shuman 14 on February 25, 2022, 08:09:53 PMAlso, they don't have the DHS Outstanding Unit Award available yet.
I am waiting for the same as well. Vanguard has the CAP stuff showing but the DHS OUA I believe is not projected to be available until June. I don't want to have to make multiple orders.
So to back up...
UltraThin does not have the ribbon, then, correct?
Some people are saying that they put in UT orders for it. Am I assuming that you didn't do a visual verification that it was on there when you pasted from McChord?
Quote from: baronet68 on February 26, 2022, 07:32:11 AMI won't be able to update the McChord Rack Builder until UT adds the Crisis Service Ribbon to their builder. I don't have any relationship with UT so I'm at the mercy of waiting for them to update their site so I can find out what their code is for that ribbon. :(
Thanks for staying on top of the McCord Site, your hard work is truly appreciated.
At a guess they won't add it until sufficient demand shows up.
I suggest you send them a memo here:
https://www.ultrathin.com/contact/
I drafted a memo below:
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Good afternoon Sir or Ma'am,
The Civil Air Patrol has added a ribbon for service during the national COVID-19 emergencies called the Crisis Service Ribbon. The specifics are outlined here:
https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/R393_1_December_2021_ICL_2103_0F81789F487A8.pdf
The vanguard link to the ribbon is here:
https://www.vanguardmil.com/products/civil-air-patrol-ribbon-national-crisis-senior-and-cadet
Could you advise me on your planned time to incorporate this into your CAP ribbon offerings?
Thank you,
$NAME
Aaand I just got an email back:
Good Afternoon
Thank you for your email, we are aware of this new award and we do have it available, however it has not yet been updated on our website.
If you would like to place an order for a new set including this ribbon you can email us with your list of awards and we will be happy to set up a quote for you.
If you have any questions or concerns please contact us at $PHONE Monday through Friday 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM CST or via this email.
Thank you for your service.
Sincerely,
$NAME
Quote from: Holding Pattern on March 03, 2022, 09:40:15 PMAaand I just got an email back:
Good Afternoon
Thank you for your email, we are aware of this new award and we do have it available, however it has not yet been updated on our website.
If you would like to place an order for a new set including this ribbon you can email us with your list of awards and we will be happy to set up a quote for you.
If you have any questions or concerns please contact us at $PHONE Monday through Friday 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM CST or via this email.
Thank you for your service.
Sincerely,
$NAME
Pretty much the same reply I received. It appears their "precedence validator" tool was built by a third-party individual from the UK who may (or may not) still be in contact with UltraThin. It could be a simple matter of updating a few points and clicks, or a more technical and laborious process for updating the tool.
As a safety net, I've added an invalid code to the UT text for the crisis ribbon to hopefully catch someone's attention if they're trying to order one after building their rack on the McChord rack builder.
For those wondering what the mini medal looks like:
(https://i.ibb.co/Dpq4Bcj/4-BBF1-C76-9213-4-FE0-82-C5-3873-F7868962.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pym2HVk)
The disc is flat with the design raised up, it's very well done, and there are no words front or back.
Quote from: Capt Thompson on March 09, 2022, 03:32:22 PMFor those wondering what the mini medal looks like:
(https://i.ibb.co/Dpq4Bcj/4-BBF1-C76-9213-4-FE0-82-C5-3873-F7868962.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pym2HVk)
The disc is flat with the design raised up, it's very well done, and there are no words front or back.
Well, someday I'm sure my Vanguard-ordered mini-medals will arrive.
Not that I need them for mess dress or anything in a week...
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on March 10, 2022, 09:55:17 PMQuote from: Capt Thompson on March 09, 2022, 03:32:22 PMFor those wondering what the mini medal looks like:
(https://i.ibb.co/Dpq4Bcj/4-BBF1-C76-9213-4-FE0-82-C5-3873-F7868962.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pym2HVk)
The disc is flat with the design raised up, it's very well done, and there are no words front or back.
Well, someday I'm sure my Vanguard-ordered mini-medals will arrive.
Not that I need them for mess dress or anything in a week...
It would be nice to see the Heraldry associated with the CCSR
Quote from: Strategic Organizational Safety (S.O.S.) on March 11, 2022, 12:17:36 AMQuote from: TheSkyHornet on March 10, 2022, 09:55:17 PMQuote from: Capt Thompson on March 09, 2022, 03:32:22 PMFor those wondering what the mini medal looks like:
(https://i.ibb.co/Dpq4Bcj/4-BBF1-C76-9213-4-FE0-82-C5-3873-F7868962.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pym2HVk)
The disc is flat with the design raised up, it's very well done, and there are no words front or back.
Well, someday I'm sure my Vanguard-ordered mini-medals will arrive.
Not that I need them for mess dress or anything in a week...
It would be nice to see the Heraldry associated with the CCSR
For the ribbon, the heraldry is as follows:
Scarlet, Old Glory Blue, Golden Yellow and White are in the National Defense Service Medal, and reflect the nation wide crisis, Purple from DOD Humanitarian Service Medal, and Silver for CAP (TIOH Color Palette).
Not sure on the design of the medallion other than it looks nice.
Quote from: Capt Thompson on March 11, 2022, 08:40:01 PMQuote from: Strategic Organizational Safety (S.O.S.) on March 11, 2022, 12:17:36 AMQuote from: TheSkyHornet on March 10, 2022, 09:55:17 PMQuote from: Capt Thompson on March 09, 2022, 03:32:22 PMFor those wondering what the mini medal looks like:
(https://i.ibb.co/Dpq4Bcj/4-BBF1-C76-9213-4-FE0-82-C5-3873-F7868962.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pym2HVk)
The disc is flat with the design raised up, it's very well done, and there are no words front or back.
Well, someday I'm sure my Vanguard-ordered mini-medals will arrive.
Not that I need them for mess dress or anything in a week...
It would be nice to see the Heraldry associated with the CCSR
For the ribbon, the heraldry is as follows:
Scarlet, Old Glory Blue, Golden Yellow and White are in the National Defense Service Medal, and reflect the nation wide crisis, Purple from DOD Humanitarian Service Medal, and Silver for CAP (TIOH Color Palette).
Not sure on the design of the medallion other than it looks nice.
The medallion design looks like about 90 seconds worth of work using clip art.
The crisis ribbon is available at UltraThin. It is not displayed on the website in the rack builder. When I updated my rack I called them first. They said to put a different ribbon in place of the crisis ribbon, then add a note (there is a spot at the bottom of the order form for special instructions). I filled the spot where the crisis ribbon should go with the C47 ribbon (next to the red service ribbon). In the special instruction area, simply ask them to replace C47 with the crisis ribbon.
I have it on mine.
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UltraThin updated their rack builder a short time ago.
FYI, the McChord Rack Builder (http://www.mcchord.org/rack_builder) has the ribbon codes on the backend so senior members can build their rack at McChord and then copy/paste it to UltraThin.
I was just looking the other day on UT and I couldn't find it, so I'm glad to see this thread.
Quote from: RogueLeader on November 21, 2022, 01:46:08 AMI was just looking the other day on UT and I couldn't find it, so I'm glad to see this thread.
Look a little closer because it's there. Has been for a couple months now.