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Operations => Aviation & Flying Activities => Topic started by: fish7days on March 09, 2023, 08:16:11 PM

Title: Form 5 requirement to carry passengers
Post by: fish7days on March 09, 2023, 08:16:11 PM
One of the requirements to take a Form 5 Checkride is:

CAPS 72-5 on page 10 states:

Logbook to show 14 CFR 61.57 recent flight experience requirements have been met for carrying passengers.

Is this to carry passengers during daytime, nighttime or both?

Thx!
Title: Re: Form 5 requirement to carry passengers
Post by: fish7days on March 10, 2023, 04:55:12 PM
Found the answer from a Check Pilot. Daytime Only.
Title: Re: Form 5 requirement to carry passengers
Post by: etodd on March 11, 2023, 12:33:01 AM
You ask a question about flying and its crickets.

Someone asks about what shoes to wear and 10 responses the same day.

CAP in a nutshell. Its always about the uniform. LOL
Title: Re: Form 5 requirement to carry passengers
Post by: PHall on March 11, 2023, 12:50:01 AM
Quote from: etodd on March 11, 2023, 12:33:01 AMYou ask a question about flying and its crickets.

Someone asks about what shoes to wear and 10 responses the same day.

CAP in a nutshell. Its always about the uniform. LOL

Or maybe we treat flying questions with a bit more respect and wait for the right answer to show up instead of guessing.
Title: Re: Form 5 requirement to carry passengers
Post by: arajca on March 11, 2023, 02:18:55 AM
Or some/many of us just don't know the answer...
Title: Re: Form 5 requirement to carry passengers
Post by: FlyingPig on March 12, 2023, 03:49:21 PM
The minimum is 61.57(a) current.
Title: Re: Form 5 requirement to carry passengers
Post by: jayleswo on March 13, 2023, 06:40:33 PM
Quote from: fish7days on March 09, 2023, 08:16:11 PMOne of the requirements to take a Form 5 Checkride is:

CAPS 72-5 on page 10 states:

Logbook to show 14 CFR 61.57 recent flight experience requirements have been met for carrying passengers.

Is this to carry passengers during daytime, nighttime or both?

Thx!

I see the OP answered their own question as did Bob. Just for posterity, the reason for the requirement is that the check pilot will be a passenger. Therefore you need to show that you are current to carry passengers per 61.57(a). And, since most F5 checkrides occur during the day, then you don't need to be current to carry passengers at night. Unless the F5 is at night and then you would need to be night current. Could your check pilot agree to be PIC for your F5 checkride? Sure (I think so). But is it a good idea to be taking a checkride when you presumably haven't flown enough recently to be current?
Title: Re: Form 5 requirement to carry passengers
Post by: etodd on March 13, 2023, 10:56:09 PM
Quote from: jayleswo on March 13, 2023, 06:40:33 PMJust for posterity, the reason for the requirement is that the check pilot will be a passenger.

But isn't the Check Pilot a CFI, and not just a passenger? In which case currency requirements not needed as per FAA. But yes, CAP has its own way.

The better explanation may be that CAP doesn't want a rusty pilot showing up, hasn't flown in over 3 months, wanting a F5, and possibly wasting the Check Pilot's time. Let a rusty pilot get with a CFI and knock the dust off before scheduling that F5. :)
Title: Re: Form 5 requirement to carry passengers
Post by: FlyingPig on March 14, 2023, 12:34:38 AM
Passenger isnt the best word.  The Check Pilot/CFI isnt acting as PIC.  So the member doing the Form 5 needs to be qualified as PIC.