Back when I found white on ultramarine USAF AFSC badges for my uniform. Does anyone know of a source for them in silver on navy blue?
https://www.nametags4u.com/product/?pid=1671 (https://www.nametags4u.com/product/?pid=1671)
Keep in mind that 39-1 also allows for "subdued," (IE, Dark blue on Sage as available for AF ABU, dark blue on OD for BDU) military badges, if you cannot find them in standard CAP colors. I personally have subdued on my BDUs, of which I've gotten zero flack for, if that's a concern.
Quote from: Levi Lockling on June 09, 2020, 04:31:56 AMKeep in mind that 39-1 also allows for "subdued," (IE, Dark blue on Sage as available for AF ABU, dark blue on OD for BDU) military badges, if you cannot find them in standard CAP colors. I personally have subdued on my BDUs, of which I've gotten zero flack for, if that's a concern.
While it may be legal it still looks like crap.
Quote from: PHall on June 09, 2020, 04:43:15 PMQuote from: Levi Lockling on June 09, 2020, 04:31:56 AMKeep in mind that 39-1 also allows for "subdued," (IE, Dark blue on Sage as available for AF ABU, dark blue on OD for BDU) military badges, if you cannot find them in standard CAP colors. I personally have subdued on my BDUs, of which I've gotten zero flack for, if that's a concern.
While it may be legal it still looks like crap.
Still legal. 🤷♀️
You can tell it's legal because the way it is.
https://store.1800nametape.com/ (https://store.1800nametape.com/)
I highly recommend them. Their embroidery is spot on, sharp and they do custom work. Minimum order on custom stuff seems to be two, if semi-standard.
For example if you need a standard badge but in an odd ball color, their looms print two badges at a time so it costs more to unhook the second needle then to load the double thread cartridge.
They carry all USAF Badges so they "should" have an AFSC Badge preprogramed and silver on blue would be colors they already have so you should have no issues.
I've been using them since before the internet when they were just an 800 number to order nametapes from, back when nametapes were still "printed" in the Army for BDUs.
I have used them quite a bit as well. I used to get my white on ultramarine Army aviation badge from them. I will echo that their services top notch and their embroidery is spot on. and if you need something done that's not necessarily on their website just call them. I have talked to the owner many times directly and he is incredibly agreeable.
Keep in mind that their dark blue color is "midnight blue" and is darker than CAP/Vanguard's Dark Navy.
The difference is pretty small and in normal light you wouldn't even notice but get out in bright sunlight and it is a little obvious if you look close.
Kind of like the new style tactical polo shirt is so dark blue it is almost black.
Quote from: NIN on June 12, 2020, 08:57:17 PMI have used them quite a bit as well. I used to get my white on ultramarine Army aviation badge from them. I will echo that their services top notch and their embroidery is spot on. and if you need something done that's not necessarily on their website just call them. I have talked to the owner many times directly and he is incredibly agreeable.
Keep in mind that their dark blue color is "midnight blue" and is darker than CAP/Vanguard's Dark Navy.
The difference is pretty small and in normal light you wouldn't even notice but get out in bright sunlight and it is a little obvious if you look close.
Kind of like the new style tactical polo shirt is so dark blue it is almost black.
To be fair to that though, a little time in the sun and they match pretty well. I would replace my rank on my cover but I'm pending promotion so there's no point. I noticed the other day it looks almost grey! That's what I get for leaving it on the dash of my Jeep.
I contacted 1800nametags and they sounded like it would be a lot of hassel to make them for me.
Quote from: Dad2-4 on June 17, 2020, 12:49:28 AMI contacted 1800nametags and they sounded like it would be a lot of hassel to make them for me.
Really? I'm shocked to hear that. I used them for two different semi-custom orders just last year and had no trouble at all.
Perhaps its the limited staffing due to COVID-19, lots of manufacturing and production slow downs because of that.
I know Nick (http://captalk.net/index.php?action=profile;u=359) from Texas Wing had the Air Force Senior Security Forces function (AFSC) badge made by Kel-Lac (https://kellac.com/) near Lackland AFB a few years ago (2016) and it looks pretty good. I don't believe they advertise it, but he gave them a description and the did it up right nice.
(https://app.box.com/shared/static/v00qrpal6agbcdnckj8wt85ixtku8xrl.png)
Anyone know if they do Navy gold on blue as well?
Quote from: farsightusf2017 on July 07, 2020, 04:11:49 PMAnyone know if they do Navy gold on blue as well?
If it's a Navy insignia, probably. Just make sure it's something you are allowed to wear on a CAP uniform in the first place.
If it's a CAP insignia in Navy colors, probably not. Why would you want that, anyway?
Quote from: SarDragon on July 07, 2020, 08:24:33 PMQuote from: farsightusf2017 on July 07, 2020, 04:11:49 PMAnyone know if they do Navy gold on blue as well?
If it's a Navy insignia, probably. Just make sure it's something you are allowed to wear on a CAP uniform in the first place.
If it's a CAP insignia in Navy colors, probably not. Why would you want that, anyway?
Probably meant items like USN wings, SEAL badge, Sub badge or others that are all gold.
Quote from: DocJekyll on July 07, 2020, 08:58:02 PMQuote from: SarDragon on July 07, 2020, 08:24:33 PMQuote from: farsightusf2017 on July 07, 2020, 04:11:49 PMAnyone know if they do Navy gold on blue as well?
If it's a Navy insignia, probably. Just make sure it's something you are allowed to wear on a CAP uniform in the first place.
If it's a CAP insignia in Navy colors, probably not. Why would you want that, anyway?
Probably meant items like USN wings, SEAL badge, Sub badge or others that are all gold.
You do know that SarDragon is retired Navy, right?
Quote from: PHall on July 07, 2020, 09:50:06 PMQuote from: DocJekyll on July 07, 2020, 08:58:02 PMQuote from: SarDragon on July 07, 2020, 08:24:33 PMQuote from: farsightusf2017 on July 07, 2020, 04:11:49 PMAnyone know if they do Navy gold on blue as well?
If it's a Navy insignia, probably. Just make sure it's something you are allowed to wear on a CAP uniform in the first place.
If it's a CAP insignia in Navy colors, probably not. Why would you want that, anyway?
Probably meant items like USN wings, SEAL badge, Sub badge or others that are all gold.
You do know that SarDragon is retired Navy, right?
Yes trying to get Navy insignia in Gold... and yes I know it's authorized I'm active Navy I understand how to read regulations.
Quote from: farsightusf2017 on July 08, 2020, 01:45:12 AMQuote from: PHall on July 07, 2020, 09:50:06 PMQuote from: DocJekyll on July 07, 2020, 08:58:02 PMQuote from: SarDragon on July 07, 2020, 08:24:33 PMQuote from: farsightusf2017 on July 07, 2020, 04:11:49 PMAnyone know if they do Navy gold on blue as well?
If it's a Navy insignia, probably. Just make sure it's something you are allowed to wear on a CAP uniform in the first place.
If it's a CAP insignia in Navy colors, probably not. Why would you want that, anyway?
Probably meant items like USN wings, SEAL badge, Sub badge or others that are all gold.
You do know that SarDragon is retired Navy, right?
Yes trying to get Navy insignia in Gold... and yes I know it's authorized I'm active Navy I understand how to read regulations.
Man... when my sarcasm is so deep everyone thinks I'm actually stupid. I better work on that or something.
Quote from: DocJekyll on July 08, 2020, 01:47:25 AMQuote from: farsightusf2017 on July 08, 2020, 01:45:12 AMQuote from: PHall on July 07, 2020, 09:50:06 PMQuote from: DocJekyll on July 07, 2020, 08:58:02 PMQuote from: SarDragon on July 07, 2020, 08:24:33 PMQuote from: farsightusf2017 on July 07, 2020, 04:11:49 PMAnyone know if they do Navy gold on blue as well?
If it's a Navy insignia, probably. Just make sure it's something you are allowed to wear on a CAP uniform in the first place.
If it's a CAP insignia in Navy colors, probably not. Why would you want that, anyway?
Probably meant items like USN wings, SEAL badge, Sub badge or others that are all gold.
You do know that SarDragon is retired Navy, right?
Yes trying to get Navy insignia in Gold... and yes I know it's authorized I'm active Navy I understand how to read regulations.
Man... when my sarcasm is so deep everyone thinks I'm actually stupid. I better work on that or something.
Well considering how badly sarcasm comes across on a text only platform unless you give us all a clue or two, i.e. an emoji or even a [sarcasm]...
Quote from: PHall on July 08, 2020, 01:50:41 AMQuote from: DocJekyll on July 08, 2020, 01:47:25 AMQuote from: farsightusf2017 on July 08, 2020, 01:45:12 AMQuote from: PHall on July 07, 2020, 09:50:06 PMQuote from: DocJekyll on July 07, 2020, 08:58:02 PMQuote from: SarDragon on July 07, 2020, 08:24:33 PMQuote from: farsightusf2017 on July 07, 2020, 04:11:49 PMAnyone know if they do Navy gold on blue as well?
If it's a Navy insignia, probably. Just make sure it's something you are allowed to wear on a CAP uniform in the first place.
If it's a CAP insignia in Navy colors, probably not. Why would you want that, anyway?
Probably meant items like USN wings, SEAL badge, Sub badge or others that are all gold.
You do know that SarDragon is retired Navy, right?
Yes trying to get Navy insignia in Gold... and yes I know it's authorized I'm active Navy I understand how to read regulations.
Man... when my sarcasm is so deep everyone thinks I'm actually stupid. I better work on that or something.
Well considering how badly sarcasm comes across on a text only platform unless you give us all a clue or two, i.e. an emoji or even a [sarcasm]...
Swing and a miss. Wanna try to hit the point I was making again?
Quote from: Okayish Aviator on July 08, 2020, 01:47:25 AMQuote from: farsightusf2017 on July 08, 2020, 01:45:12 AMQuote from: PHall on July 07, 2020, 09:50:06 PMQuote from: DocJekyll on July 07, 2020, 08:58:02 PMQuote from: SarDragon on July 07, 2020, 08:24:33 PMQuote from: farsightusf2017 on July 07, 2020, 04:11:49 PMAnyone know if they do Navy gold on blue as well?
If it's a Navy insignia, probably. Just make sure it's something you are allowed to wear on a CAP uniform in the first place.
If it's a CAP insignia in Navy colors, probably not. Why would you want that, anyway?
Probably meant items like USN wings, SEAL badge, Sub badge or others that are all gold.
You do know that SarDragon is retired Navy, right?
Yes trying to get Navy insignia in Gold... and yes I know it's authorized I'm active Navy I understand how to read regulations.
Man... when my sarcasm is so deep everyone thinks I'm actually stupid. I better work on that or something.
Okayish Aviator... I'm an old long-range patrol / aircraft rider & ground pounder... and I have the same problem. I'm much too sarcastic for my own good. sometimes online it tends to blow up in your face. no worries, just pick up dust off... and carry on. as long as you're good of heart & solid of character, people will begin to notice over time.
i suppose as long as we all keep on posting, we all will figure out what we are all talking about... eventually
Quote from: Okayish Aviator on July 08, 2020, 02:01:16 AMQuote from: PHall on July 08, 2020, 01:50:41 AMQuote from: DocJekyll on July 08, 2020, 01:47:25 AMQuote from: farsightusf2017 on July 08, 2020, 01:45:12 AMQuote from: PHall on July 07, 2020, 09:50:06 PMQuote from: DocJekyll on July 07, 2020, 08:58:02 PMQuote from: SarDragon on July 07, 2020, 08:24:33 PMQuote from: farsightusf2017 on July 07, 2020, 04:11:49 PMAnyone know if they do Navy gold on blue as well?
If it's a Navy insignia, probably. Just make sure it's something you are allowed to wear on a CAP uniform in the first place.
If it's a CAP insignia in Navy colors, probably not. Why would you want that, anyway?
Probably meant items like USN wings, SEAL badge, Sub badge or others that are all gold.
You do know that SarDragon is retired Navy, right?
Yes trying to get Navy insignia in Gold... and yes I know it's authorized I'm active Navy I understand how to read regulations.
Man... when my sarcasm is so deep everyone thinks I'm actually stupid. I better work on that or something.
Well considering how badly sarcasm comes across on a text only platform unless you give us all a clue or two, i.e. an emoji or even a [sarcasm]...
Swing and a miss. Wanna try to hit the point I was making again?
Okay, is the NAVY insignia you wish to wear on the CAP AF style uniform authorized for wear on the Air Force Uniform by AFI 36-2903? If it isn't then you have two options. 1 - Don't wear it. 2 - Ask HQ CAP-USAF for permission, thru channels of course.
Does that hit your point sir?
Which Navy Badges are prohibited by AFI 36-2903?
AFI36-2903
5.2.6.2.5. Wear of other services' qualification badges/patches, if earned and awarded,
is authorized if allowed by the applicable services' guidance. Award criteria for other
services' qualification badges will be in accordance with awarding Service's directives.
I still have a set of BDU's that have a set of Gold Wing USN Parachute wings on Aquamarine Blue on them, I imagine the gold USN/USCG/USMC gold badges on the navy will look good.
Here is the most recent version of AFI 36-2903 online:
https://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/af_a1/publication/afi36-2903/afi36-2903.pdf (https://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/af_a1/publication/afi36-2903/afi36-2903.pdf)
Quoting: Chapter 9, BADGES AND SPECIALTY INSIGNIAS
Quote9.5. Qualification and Miscellaneous Badges and Patches. Qualification badges and patches are defined as badges and/or patches earned and permanently awarded that reflect special skills that an Airman has demonstrated proficiency or qualification in that complements their primary mission. Wear of other services' qualification badges, if earned and awarded, is authorized. Applicable services' badge color(s) will remain intact as not to lose its' distinction as being awarded from another service. Award criteria for other services' qualification badges will be in accordance with awarding Service's directives (Army MilPERCEN; Navy; BUPERS, etc.). Temporary qualification badges are not authorized for wear on the uniform.
Reading that Paragraph, using thirty plus years of Military experience to interpret the meaning, pretty much every Naval Qualification Badge, as long as it is permanently awarded, would be authorized on the USAF's and CAP's USAF-Style Uniforms.
The AFI says it all. Of particular note, germane to the original question is: Wear of other services' qualification badges, if earned and awarded, is authorized. Applicable services' badge color(s) will remain intact as not to lose its' distinction as being awarded from another service.
On that note, we conclude.
Unlocked by request.
Hey guys! I was the one who requested the reopen.
Regarding Navy badges, you can find most badges authorized for wear on Navy uniforms embroidered on a dark blue cloth for the coveralls. They'll be in the proper colors for the insignia e.g. gold for Naval Aviation wings, Officer warfare badges, SEAL, etc. Silver for ESWS, Enlisted Submarine, basic parachutist, et al.
The blue is half a shade or so lighter than the CAP dark blue, but I've been wearing the gold on blue Naval Aircrew wings on my BDUs for a few years now and you'd have to be closer than you should ever be to really notice it. Here's a couple of photos from last year's encampment for reference:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-zmqnPmf/0/M/i-zmqnPmf-M.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-zTnG289/0/M/i-zTnG289-M.jpg)
Click.