Unknown Wings - Has anyone seen these before?

[Eclipse]

I'm helping with a unit insignia, and the original art uses these wings, which were obviously taken from some
sort of military or similar insignia.

Has anyone seen these before?

[Flying Pig]

What was in the middle?

[Eclipse]

No idea - an element of the insignia obscured whatever was there originally.

[flyerthom]

Angle Flight?

[DBlair]

This looks somewhat like the wings on the SAS logo.

[MSG Mac]

Similar to USN/USMC Combat Aircrew wings, but not quite!

[Jill]

Robert,

I read your post at work today.  I cannot tell you how hard I laughed.

See you tommorow night at the meeting.


Jill

[VPI18]

Could it be a version of the Hap Arnold emblem, like from NAF patches?

[bosshawk]

Not Angelflight: I have one of those.

[CAPSGT]

reminds me of the wings on from the eagle on the Cadet Service Cap Device & the Cadet Programs Specialty Track badge.

[RedFox24]

Two thoughts:

First it looks like some of the wings on some of the Scottish Clan Badges and unit badges of the British Army.

Second it also looks like some unit patches of the US airborne or glider forces infantry regts  like the 503rd, 188 or 187th.............

But I could be wrong............

[Eclipse]

reminds me of the wings on from the eagle on the Cadet Service Cap Device & the Cadet Programs Specialty Track badge.

You might be on to something, especially the cadets programs badge.  How old is it?  My notes say this patch I'm working on is about 40 years old.

[Trung Si Ma]

To me it looks like the wings portion of the early Pontiac Firebird emblem.

[Eclipse]

The other wrinkle in this is that's its clear to me the wings were scanned from an embroidered patch of some kind, so that leaves out the CP badges since they wouldn't be embroidered.

[SarDragon]

reminds me of the wings on from the eagle on the Cadet Service Cap Device & the Cadet Programs Specialty Track badge.

You might be on to something, especially the cadets programs badge.  How old is it?  My notes say this patch I'm working on is about 40 years old.

The CP badge is newer than 1987. It's not in Major Ragan's Collector's Catalog, published in 1985, and he discusses the ES badge being introduced that year. The '87 version of the 39-1 only show Comm, ES, and Safety badges.

[Eclipse]

Anyone know of any sites that have a lot of old CAP and military embroidered specialty badges?

[JohnKachenmeister]

When viewed upside down they look like an Indian chief's head-dress.

[RedFox24]

Try Harley Davidson patches and such.  Was passed today by some bikers on the way to encampment who had HD leathers on and on their colors were the HD eagle and it looked more like what you have there than what I mentioned earlier.

[Chief2009]

Maybe an insignia from one of the Warsaw Pact countries?

DN

[Gunner C]

Maybe an insignia from one of the Warsaw Pact countries?

DN

If it is, it's not one I recognize.

[RedFox24]

I think I found what it looks most like, but I cant post the picture.............

[Gunner C]

 

[IceNine]

I'm guessing they are the cadet wings.

They are a recurring theme on A LOT of the patches listed on Ace's site.

Michigan Wing Patch is notable.

Maybe there is some history noted there somewhere

[Eclipse]

I've started trolling USAF heralds and the Air Material Command, Air Forces in Europe, and Air Force Special Operations Command are all close or could be a substitute.

BTW  - anyone know the whereabouts of Bob Bowden (CAPR275 here) from MIWG?  This is for him and emails and PM's have gone unanswered.

[Slim]

BTW  - anyone know the whereabouts of Bob Bowden (CAPR275 here) from MIWG?  This is for him and emails and PM's have gone unanswered.

Not sure exactly where he is, but I know he's been out of the loop for a while between our encampment and spending a few days in the woods at our SAR academy.

His traveling companion reports that he's back home now, perhaps Robert is too.

[Eclipse]

Roger - thanks.

I've been stalling on this since February, and now that I finally got round to it he went dark, just want to make sure he was still on the team!   

Now back to the wings!!!

[alamrcn]

The CP badge is newer than 1987. It's not in Major Ragan's Collector's Catalog, published in 1985, and he discusses the ES badge being introduced that year.

I seem to remember the CP and AE badges coming around at the same time as the maroon epaulettes - So 1991 or so? The interchangable star-device in them was a novel idea. I started wearing the CP badge in 1995.

I don't have a clue on the wings in the OP. Nothing officially Civil Air Patrol, that's for sure.

[James Shaw]

Here we go gentleman. I hope this helps.

AAF WWII CIVILIAN FLIGHT TRAINING INSTRUCTOR`S CAP BADGE.

[PaulR]

Now that is a rare piece of militaria.  I am a collector and have never seen one of those.  Is that set in Silver(.900)?

[Eclipse]

That's got to be them, or certainly close enough for gov'mint work!

Makes sense, too, as most likely some of the original creators of the insignia were probably serving in that role or paying homage to it.

Thanks!

[Gunner C]

Here we go gentleman. I hope this helps.

AAF WWII CIVILIAN FLIGHT TRAINING INSTRUCTOR`S CAP BADGE.

Impressive find!

[Cecil DP]

If so why would there be a blue version 65 years later???