Quote from: NIN on April 20, 2024, 02:19:35 PMAlas, there are too many people who join for the wrong reasons, and the Venn diagram of those folks and wearing uniforms they are out of regs for is almost a perfect circle.Quote from: Ned on April 20, 2024, 05:50:41 AMFWIW, using height/weight information is far less intrusive than actually having to tape members at a weekly meeting.
Not everyone would be comfortable with having another member measure their waist size using the USAF/DoD standards.
Then again, Ned: We currently rely on our member's integrity to determine whether or not they "meet the standards" to wear the USAF-style uniform. We don't measure their height and have them step on a scale once a year in the presence of their commander to verify that they meet the standard.
Using the AF's own current standard (which, admittedly, requires some maths) vs a super outdated chart might, you know, bring us into the 21st century and in line with our Total Force partner's published standards (with an appropriate factor of some sort like we currently have).
That still requires our member's integrity to say "nope, I don't meet the standards, I'll wear corporate".
Quote from: Ned on April 20, 2024, 05:50:41 AMFWIW, using height/weight information is far less intrusive than actually having to tape members at a weekly meeting.
Not everyone would be comfortable with having another member measure their waist size using the USAF/DoD standards.
Quote from: skymaster on April 19, 2024, 08:59:49 PMI find it somewhat ironic that, as a officer of the Georgia State Guard Air and Space Force (whose uniform policies follow USAF and Air National Guard standards), I can wear a minimally distinctive OCP uniform NOW and still be in fully within State DOD regs, but must wear Corporate uniforms when performing Federal CAP duties. I sincerely hope that the day comes when I can wear the same OCP uniforms and just change out the velcro name, branch, and grade to wear it performing CAP duties
Quote from: SierraOneThree on April 06, 2024, 07:27:33 AMQuote from: farsightusf2017 on April 05, 2024, 01:02:58 PMYup tracking assuming by the name of FDU it was nomex. As I realize now the 2PFDU is the nomex OCP not the green two piece we have in the Navy. I wonder if the blue 2P massifs were considered?
Doubtful. I found that likely a good portion of the people involved with uniform policy outside of general members making recommendations are....somewhat ignorant of current uniforms in real world applications and related technological advances. The only reason Massif flight jackets were added was because of a few people who wear them were able to be involved with one of the drafts.
Oh yeah, Massif jackets both green and OCP were in the draft. I believe they were retained.
Quote from: farsightusf2017 on April 19, 2024, 03:54:58 PMThere we go that's exactly what I was looking for.
I thought there was a reg but wouldn't have expected it there and not one of the more common operational regulations
Quote from: Mobius1_Fox2 on April 18, 2024, 08:05:28 PMWhile there isn't a specific CAP regulation that pointedly prevents logging orientation flights as flight instruction time...
Quote from: CAPR 60-1, Para 8.3.1.3Orientation flights will not be credited toward any pilot ratings (solo, private pilot, etc.).Emphasis mine.
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