enlisted service coats?

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can enlisted wear service coats? if so what are the guidlines

PHall

Okay, the standard answer is "What does CAPM 39-1 say". But, short answer, yes you can.
But read what the manual says so you'll understand.

lordmonar

Also check with your local squadron.   Some of them have local UOD policies
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kwe1009

All CAP cadets under 18 are authorized to wear the service coat.  All CAP cadets over 18 and all Senior Members who meet the weight standards are authorized to wear it.

With that said, it does not mean that it can be worn to meetings.  That is up to your squadron leadership.

Grumpy

Something that wasn't mentioned.  The enlisted service coat is the one without epaulets and without the officer's stripe on the sleeve.

THRAWN

Quote from: 574006 on January 03, 2016, 03:24:18 AM
can enlisted wear service coats? if so what are the guidlines

Are you asking about Seniors or Cadets?
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Quote from: THRAWN on January 04, 2016, 07:19:17 PM
Quote from: 574006 on January 03, 2016, 03:24:18 AM
can enlisted wear service coats? if so what are the guidlines

Are you asking about Seniors or Cadets?

Methinks it was a cadink who asked the question.
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Quote from: AlphaSigOU on January 04, 2016, 07:38:00 PM
Quote from: THRAWN on January 04, 2016, 07:19:17 PM
Quote from: 574006 on January 03, 2016, 03:24:18 AM
can enlisted wear service coats? if so what are the guidlines

Are you asking about Seniors or Cadets?

Methinks it was a cadink who asked the question.

He's a cadet, newer I believe.

In this case, I would say this:
Ask your chain of command/First Sergeant.

777Pilot

Like everyone else said. Yes enlisted can wear service coats, but before you do it go up the chain and ask if it is appropriate to wear at meetings.
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Quote from: 777Pilot on January 12, 2016, 03:10:40 AM
Like everyone else said. Yes enlisted can wear service coats, but before you do it go up the chain and ask if it is appropriate to wear at meetings.

The lad makes a good point about asking if it's appropriate to wear, versus just wearing it because it's authorized.

At our squadron, our CC authorized the wear of the service coat as part of the Blues uniform. However, depending on the environment, I would argue that there are times when it's appropriate and times when you should not be wearing it. One is an office working uniform, the other is more formal, but not dress, attire. When teaching a class, I would expect to generally see a cadet in Class B, no blazer.

I see quite a few seniors wearing their Blues, and there's always that one or two in Class As with the blazer, and it looks like overkill.

SarDragon

Quote from: TheSkyHornet on January 12, 2016, 03:20:24 PM
Quote from: 777Pilot on January 12, 2016, 03:10:40 AM
Like everyone else said. Yes enlisted can wear service coats, but before you do it go up the chain and ask if it is appropriate to wear at meetings.

The lad makes a good point about asking if it's appropriate to wear, versus just wearing it because it's authorized.

At our squadron, our CC authorized the wear of the service coat as part of the Blues uniform. However, depending on the environment, I would argue that there are times when it's appropriate and times when you should not be wearing it. One is an office working uniform, the other is more formal, but not dress, attire. When teaching a class, I would expect to generally see a cadet in Class B, no blazer.

I see quite a few seniors wearing their Blues, and there's always that one or two in Class As with the blazer, and it looks like overkill.

You refer to the blazer twice here, and it's confusing, since Class A's and B's are AF style, while the blazer is a corporate uniform. So, which are you really talking about?
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Quote from: SarDragon on January 13, 2016, 06:20:50 AM
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on January 12, 2016, 03:20:24 PM
Quote from: 777Pilot on January 12, 2016, 03:10:40 AM
Like everyone else said. Yes enlisted can wear service coats, but before you do it go up the chain and ask if it is appropriate to wear at meetings.

The lad makes a good point about asking if it's appropriate to wear, versus just wearing it because it's authorized.

At our squadron, our CC authorized the wear of the service coat as part of the Blues uniform. However, depending on the environment, I would argue that there are times when it's appropriate and times when you should not be wearing it. One is an office working uniform, the other is more formal, but not dress, attire. When teaching a class, I would expect to generally see a cadet in Class B, no blazer.

I see quite a few seniors wearing their Blues, and there's always that one or two in Class As with the blazer, and it looks like overkill.

You refer to the blazer twice here, and it's confusing, since Class A's and B's are AF style, while the blazer is a corporate uniform. So, which are you really talking about?

Service coat.

My bad. I always forget that CAP has the corporate blazer. Doesn't the Air Force refer to the "service coat" as a "jacket?"

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Quote from: TheSkyHornet on January 13, 2016, 08:10:01 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on January 13, 2016, 06:20:50 AM
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on January 12, 2016, 03:20:24 PM
Quote from: 777Pilot on January 12, 2016, 03:10:40 AM
Like everyone else said. Yes enlisted can wear service coats, but before you do it go up the chain and ask if it is appropriate to wear at meetings.

The lad makes a good point about asking if it's appropriate to wear, versus just wearing it because it's authorized.

At our squadron, our CC authorized the wear of the service coat as part of the Blues uniform. However, depending on the environment, I would argue that there are times when it's appropriate and times when you should not be wearing it. One is an office working uniform, the other is more formal, but not dress, attire. When teaching a class, I would expect to generally see a cadet in Class B, no blazer.

I see quite a few seniors wearing their Blues, and there's always that one or two in Class As with the blazer, and it looks like overkill.

You refer to the blazer twice here, and it's confusing, since Class A's and B's are AF style, while the blazer is a corporate uniform. So, which are you really talking about?

Service coat.

My bad. I always forget that CAP has the corporate blazer. Doesn't the Air Force refer to the "service coat" as a "jacket?"

No. It is a coat. USAF calls it a coat. Best way to tell is to look at the label.

(Jackets are typically waist length. Coats are longer. Hence, service coat, rain coat, "Ike jacket...")
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