Why aren't Region commanders Brigadiers?

Started by RVT, July 12, 2010, 04:40:43 AM

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RVT

Quote from: MIKE on July 13, 2010, 11:46:11 PMThat's not what the AUXMAN says. "A.9. ... Auxiliarists, when working as crew on a Coast Guard vessel, shall wear only the member device (Auxiliary emblem) as collar insignia."

We don't argue about CAP uniforms enough we have to argue about Coast Guard ones now?

PHall

Quote from: Dwight J. Dutton on July 14, 2010, 03:02:34 AM
Quote from: MIKE on July 13, 2010, 11:46:11 PMThat's not what the AUXMAN says. "A.9. ... Auxiliarists, when working as crew on a Coast Guard vessel, shall wear only the member device (Auxiliary emblem) as collar insignia."

We don't argue about CAP uniforms enough we have to argue about Coast Guard ones now?

Variety, keeps this place from getting dull. >:D

ZigZag911

CGAUX National Commodore wears 3 star insignia...they can call it anything they choose, it's their organization, but that's the insignia of a USN/USCG vice admiral (USAF lt general).

RiverAux

Quote from: ZigZag911 on July 16, 2010, 03:49:16 AM
CGAUX National Commodore wears 3 star insignia...they can call it anything they choose, it's their organization, but that's the insignia of a USN/USCG vice admiral (USAF lt general).
Its the modified insignia unlike CAP grade insignia.

lordmonar

Quote from: RiverAux on July 16, 2010, 06:36:18 PM
Quote from: ZigZag911 on July 16, 2010, 03:49:16 AM
CGAUX National Commodore wears 3 star insignia...they can call it anything they choose, it's their organization, but that's the insignia of a USN/USCG vice admiral (USAF lt general).
Its the modified insignia unlike CAP grade insignia.
Ours are modified!

We wear rank on gray sleeves, we wear rank on blue cloth and we wear rank in plastic.....only one place do we wear "real" USAF rank.....hard rank on the BBDU covers.
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

RiverAux

The background has been modified, not the appearance of the actual insignia. 

lordmonar

Quote from: RiverAux on July 16, 2010, 07:33:13 PM
The background has been modified, not the appearance of the actual insignia.
Splitting hairs......CGAU only ads an A.  Six of one/half dozen of the other.
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

RVT

Quote from: lordmonar on July 16, 2010, 07:21:34 PM
Quote from: RiverAux on July 16, 2010, 06:36:18 PM
Quote from: ZigZag911 on July 16, 2010, 03:49:16 AM
CGAUX National Commodore wears 3 star insignia...they can call it anything they choose, it's their organization, but that's the insignia of a USN/USCG vice admiral (USAF lt general).
Its the modified insignia unlike CAP grade insignia.
Ours are modified!

We wear rank on gray sleeves, we wear rank on blue cloth and we wear rank in plastic.....only one place do we wear "real" USAF rank.....hard rank on the BBDU covers.
We do?  I didn't think we wore hard rank on anything.

lordmonar

Quote from: Dwight J. Dutton on July 16, 2010, 08:32:13 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on July 16, 2010, 07:21:34 PM
Quote from: RiverAux on July 16, 2010, 06:36:18 PM
Quote from: ZigZag911 on July 16, 2010, 03:49:16 AM
CGAUX National Commodore wears 3 star insignia...they can call it anything they choose, it's their organization, but that's the insignia of a USN/USCG vice admiral (USAF lt general).
Its the modified insignia unlike CAP grade insignia.
Ours are modified!

We wear rank on gray sleeves, we wear rank on blue cloth and we wear rank in plastic.....only one place do we wear "real" USAF rank.....hard rank on the BBDU covers.
We do?  I didn't think we wore hard rank on anything.

Quote from: ICL 25 Jan 08b. Changes to the CAP Field Uniform, Utility Uniform and CAP flight suit:
(1) Grade Insignia on Blue BDU cap. Effective 31 August 2005, cadet and senior member officers who choose to wear the dark blue field uniform with the blue BDU cap may wear the ultramarine blue embroidered grade insignia centered ½ inch above the visor. Grade insignia is not authorized on any of the CAP baseball caps. The wear of grade insignia on the blue BDU cap is not authorized for cadets or senior members who do not hold an officer grade. Effective 29 June 2006, metal grade insignia was also approved for wear on the blue BDU cap.
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

RiverAux

Quote from: lordmonar on July 16, 2010, 07:42:41 PM
Quote from: RiverAux on July 16, 2010, 07:33:13 PM
The background has been modified, not the appearance of the actual insignia.
Splitting hairs......CGAU only ads an A.  Six of one/half dozen of the other.
Different collor stripes on the epalets too.  Silver vs gold. 

lordmonar

Quote from: RiverAux on July 16, 2010, 09:21:43 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on July 16, 2010, 07:42:41 PM
Quote from: RiverAux on July 16, 2010, 07:33:13 PM
The background has been modified, not the appearance of the actual insignia.
Splitting hairs......CGAU only ads an A.  Six of one/half dozen of the other.
Different collor stripes on the epalets too.  Silver vs gold.

So you too change the back ground....like I said six of one/half dozen of the other.
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

ZigZag911

OK, it's not identical to USN/USCG, but then neither is ours...and the number of stripes or stars says "3 star" loud & clear?

MSG Mac

What do the previous eleven responses have to do with the subject at hand-The appointment of Region Commanders to the grade of Brigadier General?
Michael P. McEleney
Lt Col CAP
MSG USA (Retired)
50 Year Member

bosshawk

Nothing: but that is how CT works.  Almost everything degenerates into a uniform discussion.
Paul M. Reed
Col, USA(ret)
Former CAP Lt Col
Wilson #2777

TCMajor

Major Kevin N. Harbison, CAP
Major, USA (RET)
Commander
Greater Nashua Composite Squadron

SarDragon

Boss, give him time. He's only made 20 posts, and hasn't quite seen the light yet.

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Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

JC004

This topic is still popping up?  The way I see it: let 'em earn it.  If the organization starts growing and expanding under the leadership of the NEC, maybe let 'em have it.  Otherwise, what we DON'T need is the additional politics that will come out of people scrambling to get up to region level just so they can be called "General."  We don't need any more politics.  We don't really need any more generals either.  But, if it HAD to be that way, I'd say let 'em EARN it and make it a temporary grade.  There.

Wildblueflyer

Can you imagine the uniform threads we would have if Region Commanders were Generals?  In the RM, Flag Officers can wear individualized uniforms.    :D

Gunner C


BillB

In RM, only Chiefs of Staff can wear individualized uniforms. But from photos, none seem to be, just wearing authorized flag grade uniforms, insignia.
Gil Robb Wilson # 19
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