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Started by flyguy06, December 21, 2009, 11:11:30 PM

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JROB

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QuoteGood idea. And do you include the cadet commander? I would say since it changes so frequently not to include he cadet commander.

My cadet staff had their own wall. For my JROTC unit the Cadet staff changed every year. For CAP I think it would be a nice touch to add the Current C/CC, although as stated it would change alot.
Maj. Jason Robinson
Squadron Commander, Desoto Composite Squadron
SER-MS-096

"If you are in trouble anywhere in the world, an airplane can fly over and drop flowers, but a helicopter can land and save your life"-Igor Sikorsky

Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: JROB on December 22, 2009, 07:34:25 PM
QuoteGood idea. And do you include the cadet commander? I would say since it changes so frequently not to include he cadet commander.

My cadet staff had their own wall. For my JROTC unit the Cadet staff changed every year. For CAP I think it would be a nice touch to add the Current C/CC, although as stated it would change alot.

How frequently does it change? In the last (almost) 7 years as a cadet, I've observed most terms to be longer than a year, and usually no less than 6 months. Can't be bothered to switch a picture about once a year?

flyguy06

Quote from: USAFaux2004 on December 22, 2009, 07:48:24 PM
Quote from: JROB on December 22, 2009, 07:34:25 PM
QuoteGood idea. And do you include the cadet commander? I would say since it changes so frequently not to include he cadet commander.

My cadet staff had their own wall. For my JROTC unit the Cadet staff changed every year. For CAP I think it would be a nice touch to add the Current C/CC, although as stated it would change alot.

How frequently does it change? In the last (almost) 7 years as a cadet, I've observed most terms to be longer than a year, and usually no less than 6 months. Can't be bothered to switch a picture about once a year?

Every Squadron is different. I know a Squadron thatchanges out cadet commanders every six monjths to geiv all cadeyts a chance. In my squadron because we have so few cadets we may change every year if then. SO there is no set standard. It just depends on the local unit.

So, where do youguys get official chain of command photos taken?

Майор Хаткевич

Even with 6 month rotations...I don't see why a picture cannot be taken and used.

SilverEagle2

In a perfect world, all would upload a picture to eServices and then eServices could produce a nice chart with pictures that would auto update as Duty Positions changed.

But.....alas, we are not in a perfect world and cannot even complete the photo upload wing wide.
     Jason R. Hess, Col, CAP
Commander, Rocky Mountain Region

"People are not excellent because they achieve great things;
they achieve great things because they choose to be excellent."
Gerald G. Probst,
Beloved Grandfather, WWII B-24 Pilot, Successful Businessman

CAPC/officer125

For persons above Wing commander, I would think that we just use the pictures that are available for publication. And we have a standard frame to to fit them in. We have the people that aren't CAP in the top row then CAP National Commander down (we include the National Vice).
C/LtCol Priscilla (Pat) Temaat
Eaker #2228
Earhart #14523
KS-001- KSWG HQ staff
2012 Joint Dakota Cadet Leadership Encampment Cadet Commander

DG


flyguy06

Quote from: C/Command125 on December 23, 2009, 12:16:42 AM
For persons above Wing commander, I would think that we just use the pictures that are available for publication. And we have a standard frame to to fit them in. We have the people that aren't CAP in the top row then CAP National Commander down (we include the National Vice).

Good idea but why do you include the National Vice CC? He is not inthe chain of command unless the Natl CC is not able.


JROB

QuoteHow frequently does it change? In the last (almost) 7 years as a cadet, I've observed most terms to be longer than a year, and usually no less than 6 months. Can't be bothered to switch a picture about once a year?

Well this was for my High School JROTC unit. So when seniors who made up the command staff graduated The chain of command had to be redone.
QuoteSo, where do youguys get official chain of command photos taken?
We had a local photographer come and take the photos and sometimes we just did it our selves. Being that we were at a "Performing Arts" High School there was always someone that was good with a camera.
Maj. Jason Robinson
Squadron Commander, Desoto Composite Squadron
SER-MS-096

"If you are in trouble anywhere in the world, an airplane can fly over and drop flowers, but a helicopter can land and save your life"-Igor Sikorsky

PHall

Quote from: flyguy06 on December 22, 2009, 08:04:21 PMSo, where do youguys get official chain of command photos taken?

Our Squadron PAO is a pretty good photographer, he takes pictures of all members when they join, "fixes" them with Photoshop and then we upload them to National.
With a digital camera the cost to photograph everyone in the unit is minimal.

CAPC/officer125

Quote from: flyguy06 on December 23, 2009, 02:11:21 AM
Quote from: C/Command125 on December 23, 2009, 12:16:42 AM
For persons above Wing commander, I would think that we just use the pictures that are available for publication. And we have a standard frame to to fit them in. We have the people that aren't CAP in the top row then CAP National Commander down (we include the National Vice).

Good idea but why do you include the National Vice CC? He is not in the chain of command unless the Natl CC is not able.
He has visited our wing several times, so it helps to have his picture up so the cadets know who they are looking at before they get told who he is. I also think it is a way to fill up our wall.
C/LtCol Priscilla (Pat) Temaat
Eaker #2228
Earhart #14523
KS-001- KSWG HQ staff
2012 Joint Dakota Cadet Leadership Encampment Cadet Commander

pierson777

As a Personnel Officer, I have maintained a Chain of Command Wall for my squadron for over two years.  8.5x11 document frames with portraits, titles, and names are arranged in a pyramid pattern top-to-bottom, and left-to-right; row count is 1, 3, 5, and 5 (14 total).  I use MS Word to create this.  See below for list of positions.  Additionally, I maintain and post Organization Charts for both senior members positions and cadet positions (also using MS Word).  I'm not sure how many units have a wall like this. 

Like flyguy06, I also recall seeing these walls in most military HQ's.  I believe it gives our CAP unit a professional military look and sends a clear message to our members and visitors that we are an organization with a military-like structure.

AIR FORCE CHAIN OF COMMAND
Commander in Chief
Secretary of Defense
Secretary of the Air Force
Air Force Chief of Staff
Air Education Training Command Commander
Air University Commander
CAP-USAF Commander
CAP-USAF Liaison  Region Commander
CAP-USAF State Director Civil Air Patrol

CIVIL AIR PATROL CHAIN OF COMMAND
National Commander
Region Commander
Wing Commander
Group Commander
Squadron Commander


RiverAux

Probably need to get the Holm Center in that CAP-USAF chain of command....

davedove

I don't think it's a bad idea, but there's no way you should require it.  Some squadrons do not have their own exclusive building where they could post something like this.
David W. Dove, Maj, CAP
Deputy Commander for Seniors
Personnel/PD/Asst. Testing Officer
Ground Team Leader
Frederick Composite Squadron
MER-MD-003

flyguy06

Quote from: davedove on December 31, 2009, 12:40:06 PM
I don't think it's a bad idea, but there's no way you should require it.  Some squadrons do not have their own exclusive building where they could post something like this.

thats a good point. We used to meet  inthe basemen of a church so i totally understand that. I was just saying it would be nice to have.

flyguy06

Quote from: JROB on December 22, 2009, 07:34:25 PM
QuoteGood idea. And do you include the cadet commander? I would say since it changes so frequently not to include he cadet commander.

My cadet staff had their own wall. For my JROTC unit the Cadet staff changed every year. For CAP I think it would be a nice touch to add the Current C/CC, although as stated it would change alot.

The difference is and it varies per CAP unit, but the CAP chain of command usually changes a lot more frequently than the JROTC chain of command.. JROTC CoC is for an entire school year. CAP cadet CoC from what I have seen are for six months