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Started by swater96, September 13, 2009, 03:19:14 PM

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swater96

hello, i am a very young new officer and i have seen alot of the activities i need to go to require 16 years of age, and i was wondering if someone could list NCSAs that dont require that so i can plan out what id like to do.  :)

arajca

Two quick questions:
1. How far away from 16 are you?

2. What are you interested in?



OK, so #2 isn't such a quick question ;D

swater96

14 years old.

ill go to anything really, and money isnt a problem for events

IceNine

http://members.gocivilairpatrol.com/cadet_programs/activities/national_special_activities/index.cfm

Wait until 1 November and go to that address.

It's unfortunate that you cannot attend many activities but that is one of the down sides of quick advancement.

Good luck.
"All of the true things that I am about to tell you are shameless lies"

Book of Bokonon
Chapter 4

swater96

Quote from: IceNine on September 13, 2009, 03:41:16 PM
http://members.gocivilairpatrol.com/cadet_programs/activities/national_special_activities/index.cfm

Wait until 1 November and go to that address.

It's unfortunate that you cannot attend many activities but that is one of the down sides of quick advancement.

Good luck.

Thank you! Yes, lol i have a few years to get some ES quals i guess   :P

addo1

Quote from: swater96 on September 13, 2009, 03:19:14 PM
hello, i am a very young new officer and i have seen alot of the activities i need to go to require 16 years of age, and i was wondering if someone could list NCSAs that dont require that so i can plan out what id like to do.  :)

uhhh... C/MSgt and 13 years old is officer and 14? Confusing indeed.
Addison Jaynes, SFO, CAP
Coordinator, Texas Wing International Air Cadet Exchange


National Cadet Advisory Council 2010

MIKE

#6
Plus no encampment, and without accompanying JROTC fruit salad to explain it... Equals sketchy.  Whats your numbers for your WBA and Mitchell?
Mike Johnston

Major Carrales

Quote from: MIKE on September 13, 2009, 07:42:06 PM
Plus no encampment, and without accompanying JROTC fruit salad to explain it equals sketchy.  Whats your numbers for your WBA and Mitchell?

Let's see...

Cadet joins on 12th birthday... C/AB

C/Amn...plus 2 months...
C/C1C...plus 2 months...
C/SrA...plus 2 months...(Wight Brothers)
C/SSgt...Plus 2 months...
C/TSgt...Plus 2 months...
C/MSgt... (Still 12 years old) Plus 2 months...
C/SMSgt... Plus 2 months... (13 years old)
C/CMSgt...Plus two months...13 year old Mitchell Cadet.

It is possible...
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

PHall

Quote from: Major Carrales on September 13, 2009, 07:55:36 PM
Quote from: MIKE on September 13, 2009, 07:42:06 PM
Plus no encampment, and without accompanying JROTC fruit salad to explain it equals sketchy.  Whats your numbers for your WBA and Mitchell?

Let's see...

Cadet joins on 12th birthday... C/AB

C/Amn...plus 2 months...
C/C1C...plus 2 months...
C/SrA...plus 2 months...(Wight Brothers)
C/SSgt...Plus 2 months...
C/TSgt...Plus 2 months...
C/MSgt... (Still 12 years old) Plus 2 months...
C/SMSgt... Plus 2 months... (13 years old)
C/CMSgt...Plus two months...13 year old Mitchell Cadet.

It is possible...

Just not likely. Very few cadets get their Mitchell in under two years. Three to four years is pretty much the norm from what I've seen.

Major Carrales

Quote from: PHall on September 13, 2009, 08:02:59 PM
Quote from: Major Carrales on September 13, 2009, 07:55:36 PM
Quote from: MIKE on September 13, 2009, 07:42:06 PM
Plus no encampment, and without accompanying JROTC fruit salad to explain it equals sketchy.  Whats your numbers for your WBA and Mitchell?

Let's see...

Cadet joins on 12th birthday... C/AB

C/Amn...plus 2 months...
C/C1C...plus 2 months...
C/SrA...plus 2 months...(Wight Brothers)
C/SSgt...Plus 2 months...
C/TSgt...Plus 2 months...
C/MSgt... (Still 12 years old) Plus 2 months...
C/SMSgt... Plus 2 months... (13 years old)
C/CMSgt...Plus two months...13 year old Mitchell Cadet.

It is possible...

Just not likely. Very few cadets get their Mitchell in under two years. Three to four years is pretty much the norm from what I've seen.

Note I said it was possible...albeit not probable.  Still, it is not out of the range of something you could find.  A very dedicated cadet who really wanted it.  I am wanting to think that would have been me...had there been a CAP unit within 70 miles for me to join.
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

MIKE

Mike Johnston

DC

Quote from: Major Carrales on September 13, 2009, 07:55:36 PM
Quote from: MIKE on September 13, 2009, 07:42:06 PM
Plus no encampment, and without accompanying JROTC fruit salad to explain it equals sketchy.  Whats your numbers for your WBA and Mitchell?

Let's see...

Cadet joins on 12th birthday... C/AB

C/Amn...plus 2 months...
C/C1C...plus 2 months...
C/SrA...plus 2 months...(Wight Brothers)
C/SSgt...Plus 2 months...
C/TSgt...Plus 2 months...
C/MSgt... (Still 12 years old) Plus 2 months...
C/SMSgt... Plus 2 months... (13 years old)
C/CMSgt...Plus two months...13 year old Mitchell Cadet.

It is possible...
Time wise, yes, it's possible. It isn't, however, possible without encampment completion. Look at his ribbon rack...

Plus
Quote from: MIKE on September 13, 2009, 08:05:44 PM
Quote from: swater96 on June 24, 2009, 09:45:06 PM
C/MSgt Tedder
Bravo Flight Commander
Assuming he promoted to C/SMSgt at the end of June he could only he a brand new C/CMSgt by now...

Busted.


Major Carrales

Quote from: DC on September 13, 2009, 08:22:03 PM
Quote from: Major Carrales on September 13, 2009, 07:55:36 PM
Quote from: MIKE on September 13, 2009, 07:42:06 PM
Plus no encampment, and without accompanying JROTC fruit salad to explain it equals sketchy.  Whats your numbers for your WBA and Mitchell?

Let's see...

Cadet joins on 12th birthday... C/AB

C/Amn...plus 2 months...
C/C1C...plus 2 months...
C/SrA...plus 2 months...(Wight Brothers)
C/SSgt...Plus 2 months...
C/TSgt...Plus 2 months...
C/MSgt... (Still 12 years old) Plus 2 months...
C/SMSgt... Plus 2 months... (13 years old)
C/CMSgt...Plus two months...13 year old Mitchell Cadet.

It is possible...
Time wise, yes, it's possible. It isn't, however, possible without encampment completion. Look at his ribbon rack...

Plus
Quote from: MIKE on September 13, 2009, 08:05:44 PM
Quote from: swater96 on June 24, 2009, 09:45:06 PM
C/MSgt Tedder
Bravo Flight Commander
Assuming he promoted to C/SMSgt at the end of June he could only he a brand new C/CMSgt by now...

Busted.

It is possible, also...that he might not have made a new ribbon rack avatar to display the encampment ribbon or that the paperwork had not processed for wear of the ribbon.

In any case, the cadet is busted...there is nothing to see, say nor write more about it. It is being dealt with by the staff here.
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

Nathan

One thing I've learned in my experience with CAP outside of message boards...

Don't automatically assume that the cadet's being malicious of they misrepresent their grade. I one be highly surprised if even one person on this board with more than a year in CAP had not met some cadet officer who didn't know what an SDA was, or a cadet that was pencil-pushed through the program.

Just saying that before anyone goes vigilante on this guy, we should definitely try to think for a second why he would bother lying in a thread asking what activities apply to his limitations, when he would know in real life that said limitations were not real, and therefore, the answers would be useless. In which case, he's not trying to gain unwarranted authority, nor is he trying to be a troll. Seems even more suspicious for someone to lie to ask a question that does them no good at all.

My money is that he isn't lying, and rather is either wearing the grade correctly (and therefore is a highly motivated cadet undeserving of ire), or he is wearing C/2d Lt without knowing that he probably shouldn't be.

JMHO
Nathan Scalia

The post beneath this one is a lie.

addo1

Quote from: Nathan on September 18, 2009, 01:50:13 PM
One thing I've learned in my experience with CAP outside of message boards...

Don't automatically assume that the cadet's being malicious of they misrepresent their grade. I one be highly surprised if even one person on this board with more than a year in CAP had not met some cadet officer who didn't know what an SDA was, or a cadet that was pencil-pushed through the program.

Just saying that before anyone goes vigilante on this guy, we should definitely try to think for a second why he would bother lying in a thread asking what activities apply to his limitations, when he would know in real life that said limitations were not real, and therefore, the answers would be useless. In which case, he's not trying to gain unwarranted authority, nor is he trying to be a troll. Seems even more suspicious for someone to lie to ask a question that does them no good at all.

My money is that he isn't lying, and rather is either wearing the grade correctly (and therefore is a highly motivated cadet undeserving of ire), or he is wearing C/2d Lt without knowing that he probably shouldn't be.

JMHO


There is not need for this topic to go on because it will go up into flames. I am on this cadet's promotion board, so I can say for a fact that he is a C/MSgt. The cadet was afraid of getting made fun of due to the fact that CAPTALK is not the friendliest place for cadets or low ranks. Either way, I think the topic should cease and everything else can work itself out.
Addison Jaynes, SFO, CAP
Coordinator, Texas Wing International Air Cadet Exchange


National Cadet Advisory Council 2010

majdomke

To respond to the original question, at age 14, assuming you have encampment done, you can go to Glider Encampment and some NESA activities. There might be some more, but I certainly don't recall any. All required encampment.

As for Mitchell in less than two year, certainly its possible. For JROTC absolutely. Also, my daughter received her Mitchell in 18 months. She started at age 12 1/2 and just after her 14th birthday go her Mitchell. She also did gliders this summer and loved it.

DBlair

While I have not looked into calculating this Cadet's timing and so forth, I find that people often assume that it takes much longer than it actually does if a person is motivated to excel.

If I remember correctly, I was a C/Lt Col at like 15 or 16 and was certainly the youngest around. Likewise, I was an Eagle Scout at 13, when most others are nearing 18. My point is that as long as the minimum time requirements are satisfied, almost anything is possible if the person is super motivated- even if it isn't the norm.

To the Cadet, if he did indeed earn his Mitchell in the minimum time required, then I applaud him for being so motivated. If only more Cadets were so eager.
DANIEL BLAIR, Lt Col, CAP
C/Lt Col (Ret) (1990s Era)
Wing Staff / Legislative Squadron Commander

flyguy06

Quote from: MIKE on September 13, 2009, 07:42:06 PM
Plus no encampment, and without accompanying JROTC fruit salad to explain it... Equals sketchy.  Whats your numbers for your WBA and Mitchell?

Completely getting off the subject of the thread

flyguy06

Quote from: DBlair on September 19, 2009, 09:32:56 AM
While I have not looked into calculating this Cadet's timing and so forth, I find that people often assume that it takes much longer than it actually does if a person is motivated to excel.

If I remember correctly, I was a C/Lt Col at like 15 or 16 and was certainly the youngest around. Likewise, I was an Eagle Scout at 13, when most others are nearing 18. My point is that as long as the minimum time requirements are satisfied, almost anything is possible if the person is super motivated- even if it isn't the norm.

To the Cadet, if he did indeed earn his Mitchell in the minimum time required, then I applaud him for being so motivated. If only more Cadets were so eager.

so true

flyguy06

Quote from: addo1 on September 18, 2009, 10:21:43 PM
Quote from: Nathan on September 18, 2009, 01:50:13 PM
One thing I've learned in my experience with CAP outside of message boards...

Don't automatically assume that the cadet's being malicious of they misrepresent their grade. I one be highly surprised if even one person on this board with more than a year in CAP had not met some cadet officer who didn't know what an SDA was, or a cadet that was pencil-pushed through the program.

Just saying that before anyone goes vigilante on this guy, we should definitely try to think for a second why he would bother lying in a thread asking what activities apply to his limitations, when he would know in real life that said limitations were not real, and therefore, the answers would be useless. In which case, he's not trying to gain unwarranted authority, nor is he trying to be a troll. Seems even more suspicious for someone to lie to ask a question that does them no good at all.

My money is that he isn't lying, and rather is either wearing the grade correctly (and therefore is a highly motivated cadet undeserving of ire), or he is wearing C/2d Lt without knowing that he probably shouldn't be.

JMHO


There is not need for this topic to go on because it will go up into flames. I am on this cadet's promotion board, so I can say for a fact that he is a C/MSgt. The cadet was afraid of getting made fun of due to the fact that CAPTALK is not the friendliest place for cadets or low ranks. Either way, I think the topic should cease and everything else can work itself out.

I agree, the young man asked about NCSA's and now people are diggin into weaher he is leagal or not. Some people have more time on their hands than they actually need. Stick to the subject.