PJOC

TEAM SURGE · January 31, 2009, 05:27:26 AM

I have been looking for the physical fitness requirements for the PJOC. I have found a lot of links for it, but every time I click on them they go to a Kentucky State University website. If you can get to it please send it to me.

http://level2.cap.gov/index.cfm?nodeID=5617 The Website With Link.

Senior · February 04, 2009, 06:07:36 PM

They have changed a lot of things since I attended PJOC '90, APJOC,'91.
One thing to remember about PJOC you will be working in the mountains
at a higher elevation. Unless you live in a mountainous state, if you don't
know, then you don't, you need to really be able to run long distances at a
fast pace. Build up your aerobic endurance by running, aerobics. If you think your in shape get in better shape. Work hard and try to be the best.

I know that PJOC and APJOC is THE best special activity in CAP everything
else should be an encampment credit. You get to work with and be taught by real AF Special Operations personnel. Real professionals. YOU don't
get that at PA Rangers(Yes, I know that is blasphemy) or Blue Beret (What's with the Eight Ball???)

hatentx · February 05, 2009, 03:27:49 AM

What exactly is it that you learn while you are there? I am sure it isnt the full course but how much of it is short of the Full PJ course?

TEAM SURGE · February 05, 2009, 05:23:07 AM

Quote from: Senior on February 04, 2009, 06:07:36 PM
They have changed a lot of things since I attended PJOC '90, APJOC,'91.
One thing to remember about PJOC you will be working in the mountains
at a higher elevation. Unless you live in a mountainous state, if you don't
know, then you don't, you need to really be able to run long distances at a
fast pace. Build up your aerobic endurance by running, aerobics. If you think your in shape get in better shape. Work hard and try to be the best.

I know that PJOC and APJOC is THE best special activity in CAP everything
else should be an encampment credit. You get to work with and be taught by real AF Special Operations personnel. Real professionals. YOU don't
get that at PA Rangers(Yes, I know that is blasphemy) or Blue Beret (What's with the Eight Ball???)

My problem is that I have a hard time with pull ups. I can bet I am in better shape then a lot of people that will be there. Wrestling kicks your butt!

I can do everything else. I figured they would be a bit cool with a cadet not being able to do one thing. I guess not. It is one thing I would really like to go to but if I can't, life goes on.

PHall · February 05, 2009, 05:25:49 AM

Quote from: hatentx on February 05, 2009, 03:27:49 AM
What exactly is it that you learn while you are there? I am sure it isnt the full course but how much of it is short of the Full PJ course?

The full PJ course is 18 months long. Which is why they call it a "Orientation Course".

Senior · February 05, 2009, 04:47:12 PM

hatentx : When I went they taught you land nav, building shelter, team building, rock climbing, rappelling. I think it was a week long then.
The just really high speed, cool stuff is that you got to be around real PJ's.
They didn't treat us like kids or punks. They treated us like a student and
taught us lots of little tricks in the woods. We practiced rock climbing on the
same wall that the PJ students climbed on. In the PJ school house at Kirkland AFB the hallway walls were covered with plaques thanking the PJ's for this or that training. The plaques were from Army SF, Navy SEAL Teams.
The experience was plain freaking awesome. Reading on the internet and from the PJOC website they have made a lot of changes. We never went
to Davis Monthan AFB for APJOC. I want to try to apply as a staff member
in the future to go back and have more fun.
The instructors tried to explain to us their mission and life in the Air Force.
They went the extra mile to make it a good experience. :clap:

winterg · February 11, 2009, 04:10:28 PM

Quote from: Senior on February 04, 2009, 06:07:36 PM
YOU don't get that at PA Rangers(Yes, I know that is blasphemy) or Blue Beret (What's with the Eight Ball???)

What years did you attend Beret? It sounds like you are speaking from experience.

Beret is the only NCSA that is an actual AF assigned mission. And ALL NCSA's have great opportunities to offer. We all have our favorites, but please don't trash others just because you have a preference.

As for the "8 Ball", well, you asked.....

At present, the "8 ball" patch is used to denoted participation in the Blue Beret Activity. This was not always the case. The 8-ball was originally the Blue Beret mascot.

It was designed when the program was the Iowa Wing Special Service Corps. Chaplain Aydt presented it at the 1969 Blue Beret Reunion, after a patch design was requested. The 8-ball with the beret was created to represent the 7 wings in the North Central Region and Region HQ, Also that the Blue Berets were always "behind the 8-ball" at search & rescue missions.

The 8-ball mascot was used for several years and then fell into hiatus. In 1987, Capt. Ken Gleich (MO. Wing) resurrected the 8-ball as the Blue Beret emblem. from www.blueberet.org

sarmed1 · February 13, 2009, 07:43:06 AM

QuoteReal professionals. YOU don't get that at PA Rangers.

That's because it isnt an AF special operations course, but be carefull with throwing around the "proffesionals" world as many of the HMRS instructors are proffesional's in their non CAP jobs, many of which carry over to what they are teaching at HMRS; including a number of current and retired AF & Army Special Operations personnel, as well as a number of FEMA, PEMA, state & local law enforcement, EMS and Fire Service instructors.

mk

Flying Pig · February 18, 2009, 08:24:08 PM

http://www.apjoc.org/past.html

Wow...now this is cool. At APJOC you have to pass the PJ physical fitness test to graduate. When you do, you get a letter from the Lead Instructor allowing you to enlist into Para Rescue pipeline if you join the Air Force. Maybe you can do that anyway but its still neat to have tough standards. You dont pass, you go home. I dont care how much mommy and daddy paid for your plane ticket.

maverik · February 18, 2009, 11:19:50 PM

pretty sweet CAP definately needs more programs like that (like security forces, and intelligence haha

)

TEAM SURGE · February 19, 2009, 02:32:09 AM

I believe the standard should be high but, not official military..

maverik · February 19, 2009, 02:53:07 AM

I was more talking about the letter saying you did this this and now you may go through the pipeline.

TEAM SURGE · February 19, 2009, 03:02:40 AM

Quote from: SARADDICT on February 19, 2009, 02:53:07 AM
I was more talking about the letter saying you did this this and now you may go through the pipeline.

Pipeline?

JayT · February 19, 2009, 03:27:05 AM

Quote from: TEAM SURGE on February 19, 2009, 03:02:40 AM
Quote from: SARADDICT on February 19, 2009, 02:53:07 AM
I was more talking about the letter saying you did this this and now you may go through the pipeline.

Pipeline?

Pre training for training to be a United States Air Force Pararescue Jumper.

TEAM SURGE · February 19, 2009, 03:33:23 AM

Quote from: JThemann on February 19, 2009, 03:27:05 AM
Quote from: TEAM SURGE on February 19, 2009, 03:02:40 AM
Quote from: SARADDICT on February 19, 2009, 02:53:07 AM
I was more talking about the letter saying you did this this and now you may go through the pipeline.

Pipeline?

Pre training for training to be a United States Air Force Pararescue Jumper.

No I am not planning on being in the real PJ haha...

JayT · February 19, 2009, 02:41:12 PM

As oppose to all of the fake PJ's out there? ;-)

Don't seel yourself short.

Flying Pig · February 19, 2009, 05:21:24 PM

TEAM SURGE

You seem like a motivated guy. What do you plan on doing? Live the dream, be a Deputy!

JayT · February 19, 2009, 07:42:14 PM

Quote from: Flying Pig on February 19, 2009, 05:21:24 PM
TEAM SURGE

You seem like a motivated guy. What do you plan on doing? Live the dream, be a Deputy!

EMS, first due on scene ;-)

Flying Pig · February 19, 2009, 07:45:42 PM

Thats why I got my EMT cert. I kept beating the ambulance to all the traffic accidents. I felt like an idiot standing around adjusting the volume on my radio trying to look like I knew what I was doing and telling everyone "Just dont move, the ambulance is on the way."

JayT · February 19, 2009, 07:48:10 PM

Quote from: Flying Pig on February 19, 2009, 07:45:42 PM
Thats why I got my EMT cert. I kept beating the ambulance to all the traffic accidents. I felt like an idiot standing around adjusting the volume on my radio trying to look like I knew what I was doing and telling everyone "Just dont move, the ambulance is on the way."

"Back in the old days, it wasn't a good call unless it ended with you drinking coffee while covered in someone else's blood."
-My Intructor Paramedic.

Flying Pig · February 19, 2009, 08:06:02 PM

I went on a bad traffic accident once, then right after, I went on another "routine call" that was right around the corner. I tracked blood onto this ladies carpet. Thankfully, her husband was a retired firefighter so she was actually very understanding. The city promptly sent out a cleaning crew. Those are days you just shake your head, because nobody will ever understand.

JayT · February 19, 2009, 08:09:05 PM

Quote from: Flying Pig on February 19, 2009, 08:06:02 PM
I went on a bad traffic accident once, then right after, I went on another "routine call" that was right around the corner. I tracked blood onto this ladies carpet. Thankfully, her husband was a retired firefighter so she was actually very understanding. The city promptly sent out a cleaning crew. Those are days you just shake your head, because nobody will ever understand.

Ah, well, that's the price for having the best job in the world.

TEAM SURGE · February 20, 2009, 07:38:49 AM

Quote from: Flying Pig on February 19, 2009, 05:21:24 PM
TEAM SURGE

You seem like a motivated guy. What do you plan on doing? Live the dream, be a Deputy!

I plan on joining the Air Force, and I am not sure what I want to di in the Air Force.

EMS is very important to me. Being qualified, for ground team has been my goal in CAP since I was a basic. Our squadron NEVER goes on missions.

I am still determined though. The day I get to wear the EMS, and the ground team patch I will be satisfied.

JayT · February 20, 2009, 02:21:22 PM

*blinks*

Eh?

C/Ortins · March 07, 2009, 09:38:42 PM

Has anyone recieved any notification regarding if they have been selected or not?

I'm waiting to find out if I got selected for PJOC this summer.
Thanks

DC · March 08, 2009, 12:05:34 AM

NCSA slotting results should be announced in the next few weeks, it shouldn't be too long.

maverik · March 08, 2009, 05:00:14 PM

Quote from: TEAM SURGE on February 20, 2009, 07:38:49 AM
Quote from: Flying Pig on February 19, 2009, 05:21:24 PM
TEAM SURGE

You seem like a motivated guy. What do you plan on doing? Live the dream, be a Deputy!

I plan on joining the Air Force, and I am not sure what I want to di in the Air Force.

EMS is very important to me. Being qualified, for ground team has been my goal in CAP since I was a basic. Our squadron NEVER goes on missions. I am still determined though. The day I get to wear the EMS, and the ground team patch I will be satisfied.

go security forces

you can do frie arms instructor, be a guard on a plane, or be a regular guard plus you get to work the 12 hour shifts for three days but then you're off for 3.

TEAM SURGE · March 09, 2009, 02:13:27 AM

Quote from: SARADDICT on March 08, 2009, 05:00:14 PM
Quote from: TEAM SURGE on February 20, 2009, 07:38:49 AM
Quote from: Flying Pig on February 19, 2009, 05:21:24 PM
TEAM SURGE

You seem like a motivated guy. What do you plan on doing? Live the dream, be a Deputy!

I plan on joining the Air Force, and I am not sure what I want to di in the Air Force.

EMS is very important to me. Being qualified, for ground team has been my goal in CAP since I was a basic. Our squadron NEVER goes on missions. I am still determined though. The day I get to wear the EMS, and the ground team patch I will be satisfied.

go security forces you can do frie arms instructor, be a guard on a plane, or be a regular guard plus you get to work the 12 hour shifts for three days but then you're off for 3.

It is funny you say that. I just got back from BME today, and one of the coaches there told me that if you are in securyity everybody on bass hates you haha....

C/Ortins · March 10, 2009, 07:05:21 PM

Quote from: DC on March 08, 2009, 12:05:34 AM
NCSA slotting results should be announced in the next few weeks, it shouldn't be too long.

Thank You, I found out today I was selected.

swamprat86 · March 10, 2009, 07:31:25 PM

Congrats! :clap:
PJOC '86
Washington National Forest

maverik · March 10, 2009, 08:35:46 PM

Quote from: TEAM SURGE on March 09, 2009, 02:13:27 AM
Quote from: SARADDICT on March 08, 2009, 05:00:14 PM
Quote from: TEAM SURGE on February 20, 2009, 07:38:49 AM
Quote from: Flying Pig on February 19, 2009, 05:21:24 PM
TEAM SURGE

You seem like a motivated guy. What do you plan on doing? Live the dream, be a Deputy!

I plan on joining the Air Force, and I am not sure what I want to di in the Air Force.

EMS is very important to me. Being qualified, for ground team has been my goal in CAP since I was a basic. Our squadron NEVER goes on missions. I am still determined though. The day I get to wear the EMS, and the ground team patch I will be satisfied.

go security forces you can do frie arms instructor, be a guard on a plane, or be a regular guard plus you get to work the 12 hour shifts for three days but then you're off for 3.

It is funny you say that. I just got back from BME today, and one of the coaches there told me that if you are in securyity everybody on bass hates you haha....

they just hate you because they awesome your job is to be a fill in blank but really it's crazy the hours they put in.

JayT · March 10, 2009, 08:46:15 PM

Quote from: SARADDICT on March 10, 2009, 08:35:46 PM
Quote from: TEAM SURGE on March 09, 2009, 02:13:27 AM
Quote from: SARADDICT on March 08, 2009, 05:00:14 PM
Quote from: TEAM SURGE on February 20, 2009, 07:38:49 AM
Quote from: Flying Pig on February 19, 2009, 05:21:24 PM
TEAM SURGE

You seem like a motivated guy. What do you plan on doing? Live the dream, be a Deputy!

I plan on joining the Air Force, and I am not sure what I want to di in the Air Force.

EMS is very important to me. Being qualified, for ground team has been my goal in CAP since I was a basic. Our squadron NEVER goes on missions. I am still determined though. The day I get to wear the EMS, and the ground team patch I will be satisfied.

go security forces you can do frie arms instructor, be a guard on a plane, or be a regular guard plus you get to work the 12 hour shifts for three days but then you're off for 3.

It is funny you say that. I just got back from BME today, and one of the coaches there told me that if you are in securyity everybody on bass hates you haha....
they just hate you because they awesome your job is to be a fill in blank but really it's crazy the hours they put in.

Buddy, everyones adult job is like that.

I run EMS for a private company, and until recently my schedule was like this.

Class at university monday through friday.

Academy Lecture or Lab Monday and Thursday nights to 10:30 PM.

Work friday night with an Advance Life Support Crew, from 7 PM to 7 AM.

Two hours of sleep, then onto my second job as an electrcian, or a hospital rotation during the day, then an ambulance training rotation during the day.

Studying saturday night, or an overtime shift.

Work sunday, from 8 to 8, most of the time ending up home at midnight or one because Grandma decided to stop breathing at 7:59 and 'Heck, we're already out here might as well pick up a few more jobs and overtime."

During the summer, I put in an average of eighty hours a week between my regular tours and over time tours.

SarDragon · March 11, 2009, 12:13:38 AM

Quote from: SARADDICT on March 10, 2009, 08:35:46 PMthey just hate you because they awesome your job is to be a fill in blank but really it's crazy the hours they put in.

Huh? Spelling? Punctuation?

DBlair · March 17, 2009, 06:08:45 PM

I was curious if senior members are allowed to attend PJOC, or is it restricted to cadets?

I know some activities allow senior participation, but I wasn't sure about this one.

PHall · March 18, 2009, 12:26:59 AM

Quote from: DBlair on March 17, 2009, 06:08:45 PM
I was curious if senior members are allowed to attend PJOC, or is it restricted to cadets?

I know some activities allow senior participation, but I wasn't sure about this one.

It's a cadet activity. There are some senior members there providing support and supervision, but they don't get to play.

hatentx · March 19, 2009, 06:24:38 AM

oh really haha screw that I was already looking forward to it after my next trip to durka-durka-stan

TEAM SURGE · April 24, 2009, 12:19:22 AM

Quote from: hatentx on March 19, 2009, 06:24:38 AM
oh really haha screw that I was already looking forward to it after my next trip to durka-durka-stan

LMAO! :clap: