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New Navy Uniform

Started by Grumpy, July 22, 2008, 03:55:15 PM

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SarDragon

As a retired Sailor, I think it looks like crap!

YMMV.
Dave Bowles
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Hookedonlemons

With that uniform from a distance I could probably mistake that for the Marine Corps Service Charlies if the wearer wasn't wearing a cover and/or rank insignia on it

mikeylikey

I don't care for it either.  What was wrong with the current uniform?? 
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MIKE

IIRC, their reasoning was that the existing uniforms get dirty too easy, and to cut down the number of uniforms in the sea bag.
Mike Johnston

Major Carrales

I saw an Naval Officer wearing a khaki service coat on television the other day, for some reason I thought of Jack Lemon. 



070919-N-5319A-005 WASHINGTON (Sept. 19, 2007) – Three Sailors show off the prototype uniforms for service dress white and service dress khaki. The prototype service dress khaki uniform is a throwback to the traditional WWII style. The uniform allows for chiefs and officers to shift from service khaki to service dress khaki by adding a black tie and jacket. The prototype service dress white uniform focuses on better fabric and fit of the uniform without drastically changing the look. The most visible change of the uniform is adding blue piping along the cuffs and the collar. The fabric is polyester, which allows for improved ventilation and can be washed with no dry-cleaning necessary. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Brien Aho (RELEASED)

source: http://www.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=51109
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RiverAux

I think I saw a Navy admiral testifying before Congress about something last week and the uniform looked horrible on him as I recall. 

Major Carrales

Quote from: RiverAux on July 27, 2008, 09:06:18 PM
I think I saw a Navy admiral testifying before Congress about something last week and the uniform looked horrible on him as I recall. 

That is exactally what I saw, there was something not right about the color of the jacket and the khaki undershirt he was wearing.
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Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

PHall

Nice to know that it's not just the Air Force who's screwing up their uniforms! :clap:

DC

I personally like the new Khaki service coat, I'm not big on 'heritage' uniforms, but I always though Khakis looked sharp, and the logic behind the uniform is undeniable.

The officer on TV was Adm. Mullen, the current Chairman of the Joint Chiefs...

ColonelJack

I too saw Admiral Mullen's appearance and thought the khaki jacket with shoulderboards looked great!  I'll reserve any comment on the E-1 to E-6 uniform; I've never been in the Navy, but have many friends who are retired from that service.  I'll find out where they stand as time goes by.  But the throwback khakis for chiefs and officers look great, to me.

Jack
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mikeylikey

I never really liked black and khaki together.  What do above E-6 people wear?  Do they too have a variant on this khaki and black uniform, or will they wear the total khaki uniform like the Officers?

I guess distinguishing between the three distinct groups in the service (Enlisted, NCO and Officer) is a good thing.   
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MIKE

Quote from: mikeylikey on July 28, 2008, 02:49:14 PM
I never really liked black and khaki together.  What do above E-6 people wear?  Do they too have a variant on this khaki and black uniform, or will they wear the total khaki uniform like the Officers?

E-7 and above wear khaki.

As I've mentioned... I dig the SDK, but I don't like the piping on the SDW concept.
Mike Johnston

Grumpy

I believe E-7 and above also have the same dress whites as the officers.

DC

Chiefs, (E-7 through E-9) wear essentially the same uniforms as officers, only a few slight differences. They wear full khakis, officer dress uniforms, and are entitiled to the gold tapes on coveralls (E-6 and below wear silver).

DNall

not for nothin, but if you'll scroll to page 2 of this link (below), you'll see the Navy actually spends the LEAST of any service on initial clothing issue. Don't ask me how that's possible with the very full closet they seem to have, but that's what it says. Of course they seem to turn it around pretty quickly (yearly allowance). Guess that's what they get for wearing white.

http://www.dfas.mil/militarypay/militarypaytables/2008MilitaryPayCharts35.pdf

mikeylikey

Quote from: DNall on July 31, 2008, 03:39:28 AM
not for nothing, but if you'll scroll to page 2 of this link (below), you'll see the Navy actually spends the LEAST of any service on initial clothing issue. Don't ask me how that's possible with the very full closet they seem to have, but that's what it says. Of course they seem to turn it around pretty quickly (yearly allowance). Guess that's what they get for wearing white.

http://www.dfas.mil/militarypay/militarypaytables/2008MilitaryPayCharts35.pdf

Different uniform manufactures most likely.

Anyway.....you should be getting a uniform allowance for Commissioning!  Like a present  ;)

Does the Guard get the same uniform allowance as AD even though Guard Officers are not required to own Blues??
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ColonelJack

Quote from: mikeylikey on July 31, 2008, 04:14:52 AM
Does the Guard get the same uniform allowance as AD even though Guard Officers are not required to own Blues??

Assuming that you're asking Dennis about the Army, I was puzzled by that -- the Army's only coat-and-tie uniform as of 2011 is going to be Blues, so why wouldn't Guard officers be required to own one?

Jack
Jack Bagley, Ed. D.
Lt. Col., CAP (now inactive)
Gill Robb Wilson Award No. 1366, 29 Nov 1991
Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska
Honorary Admiral, Navy of the Republic of Molossia

mikeylikey

Quote from: ColonelJack on July 31, 2008, 12:40:22 PM
Quote from: mikeylikey on July 31, 2008, 04:14:52 AM
Does the Guard get the same uniform allowance as AD even though Guard Officers are not required to own Blues??

Assuming that you're asking Dennis about the Army, I was puzzled by that -- the Army's only coat-and-tie uniform as of 2011 is going to be Blues, so why wouldn't Guard officers be required to own one?

Jack

They are not part of the "bag" as of yet.....and National Guard members are allowed to buy Blues at their own expense, but the actual uniform has never been required of them, only AD
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ColonelJack

Quote from: mikeylikey on July 31, 2008, 01:24:58 PM
They are not part of the "bag" as of yet.....and National Guard members are allowed to buy Blues at their own expense, but the actual uniform has never been required of them, only AD

But my point was that in three years or less, they will be part of the "bag" and required of all Army personnel -- AD, Reserve, and Guard.  Yes?

Jack
Jack Bagley, Ed. D.
Lt. Col., CAP (now inactive)
Gill Robb Wilson Award No. 1366, 29 Nov 1991
Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska
Honorary Admiral, Navy of the Republic of Molossia

mikeylikey

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