NEW eServices website!

[mynetdude]

www.capnhq.gov, they got a GREAT facelift going there I just logged in and thought it would be down for awhile but they were fast! .

[NIN]

Hmmm, too bad its "un-Firefox-friendly" so far....

EDIT: 4 minutes later, still waiting on the "Password" dialog to render in Firefox, and I've opened IE and I'm waiting on anything but the "Civil Air Patrol eServices Login" banner to display..

[NIN]

UPDATE: Refreshed browser in Firefox, got a full render of the page including password dialog and login button.  Supplied credentials. Now waiting 2+ minutes for content.

IE, however, is still just griding away.

[Lancer]

UPDATE: Refreshed browser in Firefox, got a full render of the page including password dialog and login button.  Supplied credentials. Now waiting 2+ minutes for content.

IE, however, is still just griding away.

Seems to be fine for me.

Nice to see someone found the AJAX for ASP.NET tools. 

[mikeylikey]

www.capnhq.gov, they got a GREAT facelift going there I just logged in and thought it would be down for awhile but they were fast! .

Thats a facelift.  A fifth grader can do better on a MAC.  Come on.  What a waste of IT time. 

All they did was change color and layout, for the worse. 

So disappointed this morning!   

[jeders]

www.capnhq.gov, they got a GREAT facelift going there I just logged in and thought it would be down for awhile but they were fast! .

Thats a facelift.  A fifth grader can do better on a MAC.  Come on.  What a waste of IT time. 

All they did was change color and layout, for the worse. 

So disappointed this morning!   

I have to agree. I was expecting something that was a step in a positive direction. More disappointment from National.

[mynetdude]

but don't you agree it is considerably improved from the last layout? I don't know if the colors really have changed, although they did add some new colors as well.

The site seems "smaller" now. I don't know what else you all wanted NHQ to put out? The announcement said they would be adding a category feature with favorites & others so you can separate what modules you use most.

[jeders]

but don't you agree it is considerably improved from the last layout? I don't know if the colors really have changed, although they did add some new colors as well.

Actually, they didn't really change the layout. Everything is still in the same place, just with different colors, fonts, and borders. With the old layout, everything was also nicely balanced.

The announcement said they would be adding a category feature with favorites & others so you can separate what modules you use most.

This part I do like, although most people have nothing over there and will not care about that.

[Bluelakes 13]

I was hopng for a lot more than just a template change.  Bummer...

[mikeylikey]

I was hopng for a lot more than just a template change.  Bummer...

So true.  It's like the IT DEPT said "to show we are working for the way too much money we get, lets bunch everything together and change a few colors".

I would like to see it go back to the old layout and color scheme.  Keep whatever they added, but space it out some.

[mynetdude]

yeah like everybody said nothing new except for the layout, the content is all the same.

Would be nice if they would continue adding more modules so we could eliminate the WMU completely rather than spice up the layout... it didn't improve anything nor functionality/usability whatever.

[Lancer]

You guys are a bunch of complainer's. 

They said they would:

    *  New look and feel.
    * Organize your CAP Utilities and Restricted applications into Favorites and Other. You will be able to select from all the applications to which you have access and choose to have them show (Favorites) or not show (Other).
    * Updated Review/Edit My Information application.

Let's see...

New look and feel. Check.

Organize  CAP Utilities and Restricted Applications into Favorites and Other. Check.

Updated Review/Edit My Information application. Check.


Sure it wasn't a ground breaking new site, but it was exactly what they said it was going to be. Why expect more?

I for one am happy with what they did, and I'm in IT!

[mynetdude]

You guys are a bunch of complainer's. 

They said they would:

    *  New look and feel.
    * Organize your CAP Utilities and Restricted applications into Favorites and Other. You will be able to select from all the applications to which you have access and choose to have them show (Favorites) or not show (Other).
    * Updated Review/Edit My Information application.

Let's see...

New look and feel. Check.

Organize  CAP Utilities and Restricted Applications into Favorites and Other. Check.

Updated Review/Edit My Information application. Check.


Sure it wasn't a ground breaking new site, but it was exactly what they said it was going to be. Why expect more?

I for one am happy with what they did, and I'm in IT!

I am in IT too, they gave what they said they would do. I am not asking for more, although it didn't really "add" any value to the old site layout really its all still there just in a different layout with a tad bit more functionality.

as IT I would want to see more modules though

[Tim Medeiros]

I am sure they would be more than happy to entertain suggestions from the field.  Feel free to use the Help Desk so they can be tracked easier.  Personally, I like the new scheme, now just waiting for them to update the applications and utilities.  As of now we have 4 different templates used for them (one for older applications such as CAPWATCH_DownLoad, another for applications such as Member Search, Membership is slightly different as well and finally for the latest batch which includes CAP Magazine Admin under Utilities and Cadet Promotions under restricted applications).  It seemed as though they were going in that direction when they updated Calendar Admin but I guess not.

[♠SARKID♠]

yeah like everybody said nothing new except for the layout, the content is all the same.

Would be nice if they would continue adding more modules so we could eliminate the WMU completely rather than spice up the layout... it didn't improve anything nor functionality/usability whatever.

Leave my WMU alone.  When eServices beefes up its security and puts restrictions on itself, myabe you can go away from WMU.  But when a recent test proved that C/A1C Purple could certify Maj. Yellow as a mission pilot, I just gripped harder onto WMU.
[/sidetrack]

I dunno, I think we're jumping the gun with a lot of our rants and raves about this new look.  For all we know, they are working in steps.  That was just a little change to show that things will be a bit different now, so when more stuff looks different don't be surprised.  For something that just came out today(?) we're bashing it a tad bit too hard.  Give it time folks, give it time.

[mynetdude]

yeah like everybody said nothing new except for the layout, the content is all the same.

Would be nice if they would continue adding more modules so we could eliminate the WMU completely rather than spice up the layout... it didn't improve anything nor functionality/usability whatever.

Leave my WMU alone.  When eServices beefes up its security and puts restrictions on itself, myabe you can go away from WMU.  But when a recent test proved that C/A1C Purple could certify Maj. Yellow as a mission pilot, I just gripped harder onto WMU.
[/sidetrack]

I prefer to dump the WMU, and have a more centralized system.  Yes sure a cadet can approve some Maj to be a MP that doesn't give them the final approval as the commander still has to sign the final approving.  For example, I can sign people off in various ES qualifications/tasks including their mission participations but that does not make them approved whatsoever as the commander will have to approve that SQTR on his end of the deal in his eServices. 

That being said, if a commander sees a cadet signing off a Maj for MP, the commander should have the wits and smarts to KNOW that the sign off is grossly misrepresented and invalid and should REJECT it otherwise.  The security and restrictions shouldn't be clamped down because person C can approve person A when person A5 should be approving person A people need to use their common sense especially from an IT standpoint/point of view.

[JC004]

What the crap?  It says "Cadet Promotions - Gen J F Curry   N/A   29 Jun 2004" 

Stupid thing.  Doesn't go well with "Billy Mitchell  01 Aug 2002"   

[arajca]

WMU is not a CAP-developed system. It was developed by a member, just like SIMS, but was not blessed by National and is hosted on a non-CAP server. WMU pulls information from Eservices, but doesn't push anything back to Eservices.

A significant glitch in WMU is that WMU lists the task approver as whoever enters the task completion data, not who actually approves it. In WMU, I am listed as approving my own ES quals because I entered the data. In Eservices, the person who signed off on my task completions is listed. 

Moving back to the topic, I am disappointed with the update. True, they did exactly what they said they were going to do, but doing so added no value or usibility to Eservices. Plus, they didn't apply the same style throughout, only the login and home pages got updated. A waste of resources.

[mikeylikey]

^ and the login page looks terrible in fact!

[mynetdude]

yeah login, whatever... I liked the old layout anyway. The new one isn't bad either, just not great.