Second Lieutenant bars

[THRAWN]

Ya see?

All topics degenerate into uniform topics, except when a topic starts on uniforms, it degenerates into something else.

Makes me think there is hope among you...

That not all of you have uniforms as the ultimate goal of your participation in CAP...

Flyer

So, when are we getting ABUs?

I think we should get tan boots for our BBDUs...

[MSG Mac]

Ya see?

All topics degenerate into uniform topics, except when a topic starts on uniforms, it degenerates into something else.

Makes me think there is hope among you...

That not all of you have uniforms as the ultimate goal of your participation in CAP...

Flyer

So, when are we getting ABUs?

The 12th of Never!

[RogueLeader]

Ya see?

All topics degenerate into uniform topics, except when a topic starts on uniforms, it degenerates into something else.

Makes me think there is hope among you...

That not all of you have uniforms as the ultimate goal of your participation in CAP...

Flyer

So, when are we getting ABUs?

The 12th of Never!

30th of February 25978

[Billy009]

I thought CAP officers do not wear rank insignia on the BDU cap. Am I incorrect?

[Storm Chaser]

I thought CAP officers do not wear rank insignia on the BDU cap. Am I incorrect?

Yes, senior member grade insignias must be worn on BDU caps according to ICL to CAPM 39-1, dated 12 March 2012. The mandatory date was 1 May 2007.

[Garibaldi]

I thought CAP officers do not wear rank insignia on the BDU cap. Am I incorrect?

Metal insigina, no. Embroidered insignia, yes.

[Panache]

I thought CAP officers do not wear rank insignia on the BDU cap. Am I incorrect?

Metal insigina, no. Embroidered insignia, yes.

Unless you are wearing the Blue BDU (BBDU) cap, in which case you can use embroidered or metal grade insignia.

[Devil Doc]

Metal insigina, no. Embroidered insignia, yes.

I wish there was Metal Insignia on all BDU Variations, be alot easier.

[Storm Chaser]

Metal insigina, no. Embroidered insignia, yes.

I wish there was Metal Insignia on all BDU Variations, be alot easier.

Easier? I have to respectfully disagree. Once the embroidered insignia is sewn, there's no need to do anything else to it. It's always there, in the right place (assuming it was sewn correctly). Metal insignias need to be measured and placed on the uniform every time. How's that easier?

[MIKE]

Not to mention the first time you get bonked in the head... Assuming you don't bend the pins back.

[LSThiker]

Easier? I have to respectfully disagree. Once the embroidered insignia is sewn, there's no need to do anything else to it. It's always there, in the right place (assuming it was sewn correctly). Metal insignias need to be measured and placed on the uniform every time. How's that easier?

I think it is personal preference.  I wore metal rank and branch insignia on my BDUs (prior to transitioning to ACUs) and it was not that bad.  In some cases, it was nice as my collar had a good patch of black so my branch insignia and rank would be hidden.    I did transition over to cloth for my field BDUs.  Unfortunately, they were off ever so slightly (1 degree) and it really annoyed me.  I argued with the seamstress (or really seam stress) about correcting it but just was not worth my time.  Personally, I did not find metal insignia any less convenient than cloth.

[huey]

So, when are we getting ABUs?


As soon as the Air Force gets rid of it, I guess!!!!

[huey]

Metal insigina, no. Embroidered insignia, yes.


For CAP, I think the only case to wear a metal insignia is for flying suit, which is plastic encased.

[AirAux]

And is not metal, but in reality the rank is also plastic.

[Panache]

Metal insigina, no. Embroidered insignia, yes.


For CAP, I think the only case to wear a metal insignia is for flying suit, which is plastic encased.

...and the Blue BDU cap.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

Does anyone have a coherent explanation as to why we are allowed metal grade on just one item of headgear, but not on the BBDU's themselves?

It's not like we could be confused with the Air Force on that, since they don't wear BBDU's.

[Garibaldi]

Does anyone have a coherent explanation as to why we are allowed metal grade on just one item of headgear, but not on the BBDU's themselves?

It's not like we could be confused with the Air Force on that, since they don't wear BBDU's.

I think you'd have a better chance of getting "when are we getting ABUs?" answered before you get the answer to that.

[SarDragon]

Does anyone have a coherent explanation as to why we are allowed metal grade on just one item of headgear, but not on the BBDU's themselves?

It's not like we could be confused with the Air Force on that, since they don't wear BBDU's.

Metal grade on BBDUs can turn into a comfort/safety issue when in the field. It can catch on pack straps, or get caught underneath and cause bruises and/or wounds.

[THRAWN]

Does anyone have a coherent explanation as to why we are allowed metal grade on just one item of headgear, but not on the BBDU's themselves?

It's not like we could be confused with the Air Force on that, since they don't wear BBDU's.

Sure, this is easy...blah blah blah corporate uniform, something something Air Force style, yadda yadda WE SANK A SUBMARINE IN WORLD WAR 2!.....

Oh, wait, I mean nope...no coherent explanation available.

[Garibaldi]

Does anyone have a coherent explanation as to why we are allowed metal grade on just one item of headgear, but not on the BBDU's themselves?

It's not like we could be confused with the Air Force on that, since they don't wear BBDU's.

Metal grade on BBDUs can turn into a comfort/safety issue when in the field. It can catch on pack straps, or get caught underneath and cause bruises and/or wounds.

Or you can wind up with 2 holes in your forehead when you smack a tree branch...